IJN Atago

[WhiskeyWolf]

As it was pointed in another thread 2 of Atago's torpedo launcher can fire in a forward arc and two in the usual backward arrangement. I understand that makes her a beast compered to the rest of her brethren.

 

But how does she feel compared to the Mogami in the same Tier? I imagine the awkward arc of the C turret makes her not as effective at charging as the Mogami. Could someone share his thoughts on it after 0.4.0?

 

Also, how much cash did you need to buy her again, I was looking her up but forgot.

[Sander93]

Also, how much cash did you need to buy her again, I was looking her up but forgot.

 

In the latest (yesterday's) version of the 4.0 PT it was 10.700 gold. 

[Nechrom]

As it was pointed in another thread 2 of Atago's torpedo launcher can fire in a forward arc and two in the usual backward arrangement. I understand that makes her a beast compered to the rest of her brethren.

 

But how does she feel compared to the Mogami in the same Tier? I imagine the awkward arc of the C turret makes her not as effective at charging as the Mogami. Could someone share his thoughts on it after 0.4.0?

 

Also, how much cash did you need to buy her again, I was looking her up but forgot.

 

Since I only got 10k gold on the PTS I couldn't test her. But from my understanding aside from the torpedoes she feels like a Myoko but with slightly better survivability. She looks absolutely magnificent though and I'm going to make sure to grab one for myself as soon as OBT starts.

I wish all the luck to Kitakami and hope to see her soon again in a more worthy setting. But until then I'm really going to enjoy the company of Atago-san.

 

[DumbleDerp]

I might consider picking her up in OBT after the Warspite. She'll have to compete with the Atlanta for it tho 

 

[nyarla]

I wanted to try the Atago as I have had a less than brilliant time in the Kitty. However at 10700 and they only give 10000 on the test server this is a bit unlikely. It might have been an idea to reduce her price so that we can try her.

[Kirasa]

She isn't bad, but you really need to use the Rudder Shift Upgrade on her. Without it she just feels sluggish.

 

Regarding the torp arcs: When you have all torps loaded it shows the full front to back arc green. You have to remember though, that you can only shoot with one launcher to the front and with the other to the back while sailing her.

 

She has also a really good looking superstructure.

[Abraa]

I played her as she was at 9,6k in open test.

 

Can take a beating, very nice guns, frontal torps are very handy when sailing towar someone but its manuverability is  that of a T8 BB, really slow.

[Bl4ckh0g]

 

This is how I imagine the developers now.

[McCracken666]

I dont see how anyone would want the mogami after introducing this ship.

 

from what i see Atago has.

 

More HP

Better torp firing angle

Its faster

 

Why would you pick the mogami ?(also the 155mm are getting slighty nerfed in 0.4.0)

 

I really dont hope WG is making premium ships better than stock ones.-

[Bl4ckh0g]

I dont see how anyone would want the mogami after introducing this ship.

 

from what i see Atago has.

 

More HP

Better torp firing angle

Its faster

 

Why would you pick the mogami ?(also the 155mm are getting slighty nerfed in 0.4.0)

 

I really dont hope WG is making premium ships better than stock ones.-

 

Mogami has better AA, RoF, range with the 155 mm and doesn't cost 10k gold

[Kyono]

I dont see how anyone would want the mogami after introducing this ship.

 

doesn't cost 10k gold

 

Beat me to it Hog 

[Bl4ckh0g]

 

 

Beat me to it Hog 

 

BWAHAHAHAHHAAH

 

 

[McCracken666]

 

Mogami has better AA, RoF, range with the 155 mm and doesn't cost 10k gold

 

No. The Atago has better range with 15,8km vs mogami's 14,7km. Also i dont see anywhere the mogami has better ROF, they use the exact same 203mm guns if u look in the right side info in game. the 10k cost is no excuse for making it better, premium ships should never be any better than the standard ships, different ok, bet never better. That wil make it a pay to win game, and we dont want that do we :X If mogami has slighty better AA, its really a insignificant compared to all the major upgrades the Atago has.

 

 

 

 

[Bl4ckh0g]

 

No. The Atago has better range with 15,8km vs mogami's 14,7km. Also i dont see anywhere the mogami has better ROF, they use the exact same 203mm guns if u look in the right side info in game. the 10k cost is no excuse for making it better, premium ships should never be any better than the standard ships, different ok, bet never better. That wil make it a pay to win game, and we dont want that do we :X If mogami has slighty better AA, its really a insignificant compared to all the major upgrades the Atago has.

 

 

 

 

 

Atago 3,8 RoF

Mogami 4 RoF

Also there's a skill that increases the range of 155 mm guns, I heard Mogami has 18-19 km with that skill and 155 mm guns

[Kyono]

 

No. The Atago has better range with 15,8km vs mogami's 14,7km. Also i dont see anywhere the mogami has better ROF, they use the exact same 203mm guns if u look in the right side info in game. the 10k cost is no excuse for making it better, premium ships should never be any better than the standard ships, different ok, bet never better. That wil make it a pay to win game, and we dont want that do we :X If mogami has slighty better AA, its really a insignificant compared to all the major upgrades the Atago has.

 

 

 

 

 

KV-5 is superior to all tier 8 heavy tanks. It just has to drive backwards to do its job right! 

[Bl4ckh0g]

 

No. The Atago has better range with 15,8km vs mogami's 14,7km. Also i dont see anywhere the mogami has better ROF, they use the exact same 203mm guns if u look in the right side info in game. the 10k cost is no excuse for making it better, premium ships should never be any better than the standard ships, different ok, bet never better. That wil make it a pay to win game, and we dont want that do we :X If mogami has slighty better AA, its really a insignificant compared to all the major upgrades the Atago has.

 

 

 

 

 

Also there's the rudder shift time, Atago turns like a drunk whale

[McCracken666]

 

Atago 3,8 RoF

Mogami 4 RoF

Also there's a skill that increases the range of 155 mm guns, I heard Mogami has 18-19 km with that skill and 155 mm guns

 

Still both with the 203mm setup it will be atago having longer range. Downgrading guns and taking up a skill to get longer range dosnt seem like a good option.

 

I really cant see any idea in picking the mogami over the atago so far.

 

The bennefits on Atago are way more powerfull...cmon...much better torp angles, better speed and more HP vs a bit longer range with the small gun option on mogami ... no way.

 

ok a bit better rudder shift time on mogami....STILL cmon its no match for a more powerfull ship that has longer range with the big guns and better torps angle and its faster....

[Bl4ckh0g]

 

Still both with the 203mm setup it will be atago having longer range. Downgrading guns and taking up a skill to get longer range dosnt seem like a good option.

 

I really cant see any idea in picking the mogami over the atago so far.

 

The bennefits on Atago are way more powerfull...cmon...much better torp angles, better speed and more HP vs a bit longer range with the small gun option on mogami ... no way.

 

with 0,2 better RoF and 4 seconds better rudder shift time a good Mogami player beats the Atago any day, any time

since Atago could not dodge any shot you fire at her( Or well, not as much as the Mogami)

 

E.:

I mean, really Mogami wins a duel from 4 km to 14 km.

Atago is good, but She still cannot win a duel against a Mogami or NO from medium to long range

[McCracken666]

 

with 0,2 better RoF and 4 seconds better rudder shift time a good Mogami player beats the Atago any day, any time

since Atago could not dodge any shot you fire at her( Or well, not as much as the Mogami)

 

i highly doubt that, the atago can fire agressive torps the mogami cannot and mogami will not surive as long cause of lower hp...and oh the atago is the faster ship.

 

Im going in circles here, so i will stop now

 

We will see how it turns out with the patch comes.

 

Next is the zao buff/nerf...they need to balance it better against des moines. An armor and speed buff and rof nerf is not what it needs. 10km torps and speed buff and i think its fine...well thats another topic..

[Calapine]

 

Still both with the 203mm setup it will be atago having longer range. Downgrading guns and taking up a skill to get longer range dosnt seem like a good option.

 

 

You are too quick to assume that the stock guns are a downgrade. Search the forum for "Mogami guns" and you will see that not long ago most players considered 15 155 mm guns @ 6 RPM superior to 10 203 mm guns @ 4 RPM. This was before the HE changes so the balance has since shifted somewhats towards the heavier caliber. But whether  that's enough to tip to scales I am not so sure.¹ With the new ROF talent for <155 mm guns the stock setup definitely deserves some test runs before any verdict is made.

 

Cala

 

¹ The result will depend greatly on play-style: Close combat vs cruisers: 203 mm AP. Long range BB snipping : 155 mm HE.

[Bl4ckh0g]

 

i highly doubt that, the atago can fire agressive torps the mogami cannot and mogami will not surive as long cause of lower hp...and oh the atago is the faster ship.

 

Im going in circles here, so i will stop now

 

We will see how it turns out with the patch comes.

 

Next is the zao buff/nerf...they need to balance it better against des moines. An armor and speed buff and rof nerf is not what it needs. 10km torps and speed buff and i think its fine...well thats another topic..

 

Torpedoes are only good against cruisers if the cruiser is either asleep or closer than 2-3 km, even then a Mogami can dodge most of them.

And It's not like you are gonna hit a Mogami  with torpedoes from 8-10 km, where your bad rudder shift time hurts the most.

As I said a Good Mogami player will just engage you from 8-11 km and beat you in a gun duel.

[McCracken666]

 

You are too quick to assume that the stock guns are a downgrade. Search the forum for "Mogami guns" and you will see that not long ago most players considered 15 155 mm guns @ 6 RPM superior to 10 203 mm guns @ 4 RPM. This was before the HE changes so the balance has since shifted somewhats towards the heavier caliber. But whether  that's enough to tip to scales I am not so sure.¹ With the new ROF talent for <155 mm guns the stock setup definitely deserves some test runs before any verdict is made.

 

Cala

 

¹ The result will depend greatly on play-style: Close combat vs cruisers: 203 mm AP. Long range BB snipping : 155 mm HE.

 

i agree with you. And im very aware about the different mogami setups, done like 700 kills with the mogami...

Besides the longer range with next patch it will further nerf lower calibers HE power.

[Unintentional_submarine]

 

You are too quick to assume that the stock guns are a downgrade. Search the forum for "Mogami guns" and you will see that not long ago most players considered 15 155 mm guns @ 6 RPM superior to 10 203 mm guns @ 4 RPM. This was before the HE changes so the balance has since shifted somewhats towards the heavier caliber. But whether  that's enough to tip to scales I am not so sure.¹ With the new ROF talent for <155 mm guns the stock setup definitely deserves some test runs before any verdict is made.

 

Cala

 

¹ The result will depend greatly on play-style: Close combat vs cruisers: 203 mm AP. Long range BB snipping : 155 mm HE.

 

The 155mms also have the advantage of being better against DDs.

 

But really, unlike just as 3.1 arrived, it is now a valid option to go 203mm. The AP will punch through cruisers for some awesome citadels, and some BBs as well. The 155mms have serious trouble in that department. Also the 155s have a relatively slow traverse compared to the 203s.

 

If the range buff from the skill stays, I would argue that the 155s are more versatile. Especially since fire appears to do more damage per tick. Obviously it was underpowered! However, I can't believe that the skill is supposed to make smaller guns longer ranged than guns that were upgrades and longer ranged in real life. I would expect it to be reduced to 150mm in order to see this particular backwardsness removed.

[Toukster]

As it was pointed in another thread 2 of Atago's torpedo launcher can fire in a forward arc and two in the usual backward arrangement. I understand that makes her a beast compered to the rest of her brethren.

 

But how does she feel compared to the Mogami in the same Tier? I imagine the awkward arc of the C turret makes her not as effective at charging as the Mogami. Could someone share his thoughts on it after 0.4.0?

 

Also, how much cash did you need to buy her again, I was looking her up but forgot.

 

i played her alot during the first weekend test last week. She's almost exactly the same as the Mogami with the bigger guns, the torps do have a larger firing arc but its only for the forward launchers on each side, the rear launchers have pretty much the same firing arc as the Mogami in the CBT as far as i could tell.

[tajj7]

Sounds good, what range are the torps?

 

I may pick this up as I found the Atlanta underwhelming as a cruiser and the Warspite has been a disappointment. 

 

Plus it will give me an excuse to play Japanese Cruisers