Any Russian carriers counter?

[Hirikaro]

Hello,

I would like to hear from wargaming what is exact counter for Russian CVs, specifically in ranked?
1. AA - yeaah so if squadron attacks, you may kill max 3 planes, normally 2

2. Fighters? what a joke, planes are gone with full hit and fighters didnt start chase
3. Kill rest of squadron after attack? what rest of squadron if there is only 1???
4. try kill most of the planes so CV cant fly full squadron - how exactly when after 50 killed planes this CV sends again full squadrons of the planes which are hard to kill?

So main downside of all other CVs is that they need to do more attack runs for more dmg in exchange of planes. But russian CVs doesnt as they shoot full squadron from far far away so you are not able to kill many of these planes max 2-3. And still they fly full squadrons on you even if you kill 50 planes with enourmous dmg taken.

Ok 1 downside of CVs is deleted and now... there is none.

I am really interested what is counter for Russian Carriers, because from my perspective russian carriers are more OP than subs - which everybody says its OP.

Wargaming people I really would like to hear your opinion how we should counter russian CV in ranked games for example :) go all in 1 cloud? so enemy can flank the team and hit cits? I think you really messed up this and you should consider rework of the Russian CVs. I am surprised its not done already.
 

 

[SurfaceFish]

Fear not, WG is planning AA to kill planes in the attacking group instead the last plane in the squad. So Sovite CV will be the ONLY ONE not nerfed. 

 

Only counter is use island and teammates to block to side attack from Sovite CV. Ship based fighter is useless and your CV needs to plan where he droops the fighters to block side attack approachs, too much to hope for in random team. 

[TheNubination]

 Russian CVs are by design broken.  


AA Bubbles. And I mean like Halland / Stalingrad with AA specs. 

If not kill from afar. Need things like Slava, Vermont, etc pref paired with Richthofen, haku, sometimes FDR if he's running in a straight line. 

If not that flank him

If not that, play ultra slow game if you can out dps your enemy at very long ranges because his planes are slow and he has to reload them every time. You need to be absolutely better than your enemy at long range engagements and always stay in range of someone. 


If not, you lose. 

Personally despite being pretty good at CVs I suck at Nakhimov. I tried making it work for so long but I never could. Together with Audacious its my worst CV. That's because I don't have the patience to loiter. The way Nakhimov does well is by shooting you when you can't dodge him and hitting everything on you then. 

This makes pushing against him very difficult, even though a successful push due to his huge citadel and crappy maneuverability will lead to kills if actually completed. 

Also dont be mad at your CV. Fighter planes, except in really specific conditions are useless. Play almost as if you dont have fighter cover and dont whine.  

[SurfaceFish]

 

5 minutes ago, TheNubination said:

Also dont be mad at your CV. Fighter planes, except in really specific conditions are useless

Very true, be mad at WG for the current lack of CV vs CV interaction. 

[TheNubination]

4 minutes ago, SurfaceFish said:

 

Very true, be mad at WG for the current lack of CV vs CV interaction. 

 

 

Made thread about it, proved that Nakhimov is broken and that he can constantly even despawn fighter planes without taking damage, nobody cares. 
The ship completely ruins any fighter build, and the fact that there's so many people who play the carrier makes it just depressing to even try since you could be facing him. And if interceptors weren't already useless then this is the nail in the coffin that should see that entire skill removed/reworked.

Should never have existed, even if you like CVs or all the mechanics around how fighters interact with squadrons should've been changed.  But yeah, it wont , so you just gotta accept it and move on.

[ColonelPete]

34 minutes ago, Smajlikk said:

Hello,

I would like to hear from wargaming what is exact counter for Russian CVs, specifically in ranked?
1. AA - yeaah so if squadron attacks, you may kill max 3 planes, normally 2

2. Fighters? what a joke, planes are gone with full hit and fighters didnt start chase
3. Kill rest of squadron after attack? what rest of squadron if there is only 1???
4. try kill most of the planes so CV cant fly full squadron - how exactly when after 50 killed planes this CV sends again full squadrons of the planes which are hard to kill?

So main downside of all other CVs is that they need to do more attack runs for more dmg in exchange of planes. But russian CVs doesnt as they shoot full squadron from far far away so you are not able to kill many of these planes max 2-3. And still they fly full squadrons on you even if you kill 50 planes with enourmous dmg taken.

Ok 1 downside of CVs is deleted and now... there is none.

I am really interested what is counter for Russian Carriers, because from my perspective russian carriers are more OP than subs - which everybody says its OP.

Wargaming people I really would like to hear your opinion how we should counter russian CV in ranked games for example :) go all in 1 cloud? so enemy can flank the team and hit cits? I think you really messed up this and you should consider rework of the Russian CVs. I am surprised its not done already.
 

 

Try sinking the carrier or his teammates. Do not bother with the planes.