[BOXXR] Balance_Airlines Players 18 posts 10,372 battles Report post #1 Posted February 6 (edited) I can barely do any damage in any gun DD when they shotgun me. Not to mention the curb on those freaking torpedoes. So yeah....much fun.[CONTENT REMOVED BY MODERATION] Edited February 7 by Floppyz 40 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farheim Players 182 posts 6,723 battles Report post #2 Posted February 6 Whatever makes DDs suffer is good for the game. 3 2 3 18 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #3 Posted February 6 28 minutes ago, Farheim said: Whatever makes DDs suffer is good for the game. How is subs good for any of the other classes? 11 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hirohito Players 1,717 posts 6,192 battles Report post #4 Posted February 6 10 hours ago, Farheim said: Whatever makes DDs suffer is good for the game. CV main here trying to be funny. Take your anime profile pic and gtfo. 9 12 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BATES] Mamba_ZA Players 67 posts 15,234 battles Report post #5 Posted February 6 6 hours ago, Farheim said: Whatever makes DDs suffer is good for the game. He says as a CV main 8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farheim Players 182 posts 6,723 battles Report post #6 Posted February 6 8 hours ago, WarburtonLee said: How is subs good for any of the other classes? Divrersity and new type of enemy/ally that makes you change and adapt. 2 1 4 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[L-DI] coolrunings_99 Players 129 posts 14,939 battles Report post #7 Posted February 6 13 minutes ago, Farheim said: Divrersity and new type of enemy/ally that makes you change and adapt. ..and auto ASW option, best of the bunch, so some love gets lost between CV mains and Underwater Worshipers😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #8 Posted February 6 Yet another one of those tiresome fringe opinions. Or that's how we will soon be educated for our benefit.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DK-MK] Varian_Dorn Players 804 posts 19,917 battles Report post #9 Posted February 6 Alle 6/2/2023 alle 01:11, Balance_Airlines ha scritto: I can barely do any damage in any gun DD when they shotgun me. Not to mention the curb on those freaking torpedoes. So yeah....much fun. [CONTENT REMOVED BY MODERATION] The average destroyer is faster and more agile than a sub. If you get blapped often enough to whine like this your probable gameplay is more stationary and easier to find than a bow-tanking Yamato. 1 3 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farheim Players 182 posts 6,723 battles Report post #10 Posted February 6 32 minutes ago, coolrunings_99 said: ..and auto ASW option, best of the bunch, so some love gets lost between CV mains and Underwater Worshipers😉 Somebody gotta get all the best. Seems fitting that it's a privelege of the best class. 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[L-DI] coolrunings_99 Players 129 posts 14,939 battles Report post #11 Posted February 6 ..is that really what she said?😁 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #12 Posted February 6 Vor 23 Minuten, Karasu_Browarszky sagte: Yet another one of those tiresome fringe opinions. Well, if you already get ridiculed for being a weeb and despised for "playing" CV, why not going all in? 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,813 battles Report post #13 Posted February 6 31 minutes ago, Farheim said: Seems fitting that it's a privelege of the best class You meant the most dishonest and toxic, of course. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #14 Posted February 6 3 hours ago, Farheim said: Divrersity and new type of enemy/ally that makes you change and adapt. Ok, so diversity is good without any context? Why exactly? How about we give all ships SAM missiles with 20km range and 100% hitrate then, would be nice diversity and make CV players change and adapt. You do realize that new content can be bad right? And why is changing a working game, just for the change any good? You realize that many games have done so, with absolute failure as a result? Subs bring nothing "good" for the game, its another class that cant be touched if theyre any good, like CVs. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farheim Players 182 posts 6,723 battles Report post #15 Posted February 6 4 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said: Ok, so diversity is good without any context Yes. 5 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said: Why exactly Diversity is our strength. You disagree with that? The more ships, the more type of gameplays, the more stuff blending in together in one pot - the better. Or am I wrong? 6 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said: You do realize that new content can be bad right? Not all new content is bad however and people shouldn't judge an entire class based on their rather bigoted opinion that comes from their questionable experience. 7 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said: And why is changing a working game, just for the change any good People were whining that WoWs is bad and dying ever since I remember, so you sure it was a 'working game' before they've added subs? Be honest. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,813 battles Report post #16 Posted February 6 7 minutes ago, Farheim said: Diversity is our strength. You disagree with that? The more ships, the more type of gameplays, the more stuff blending in together in one pot - the better. Or am I wrong? Lol. By your metric both far left and right are "good things" coz "muh diversity". Just ...lolz.... 9 minutes ago, Farheim said: Not all new content is bad however.... Yes, however the bad outweighs the good by FAR . And THAT's a/the and THE problem . 11 minutes ago, Farheim said: .....and people shouldn't judge an entire class based on their rather bigoted opinion that comes from their questionable experience. How about facts? Is that ....."good enough" ? 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farheim Players 182 posts 6,723 battles Report post #17 Posted February 6 6 minutes ago, Andrewbassg said: Yes, however the bad outweighs the good by FAR That's just your opinion. 6 minutes ago, Andrewbassg said: How about facts? Of course. You have some? Shoot 'em. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #18 Posted February 6 14 minutes ago, Farheim said: Yes. Diversity is our strength. You disagree with that? The more ships, the more type of gameplays, the more stuff blending in together in one pot - the better. Or am I wrong? Not all new content is bad however and people shouldn't judge an entire class based on their rather bigoted opinion that comes from their questionable experience. People were whining that WoWs is bad and dying ever since I remember, so you sure it was a 'working game' before they've added subs? Be honest. Yes i am sure it was a "working game", before the CV rework, after that less working, and after subs even less "working". Diverity is NOT a strenght, it is a way for WG to mess up the balance even more. Subs is another class that mess with CE of all ships, and do not have any place in a game of Surface naval combat. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] MixuS [POP] Beta Tester 637 posts 12,005 battles Report post #19 Posted February 6 Well I gotta admit that subs do bring diversity. Game used to be CVs and prey, now it's CVs, subs and prey. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farheim Players 182 posts 6,723 battles Report post #20 Posted February 6 6 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said: a game of Surface naval combat Did you pull that right out off your...? 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #21 Posted February 6 25 minutes ago, Farheim said: Yes. Diversity is our strength. You disagree with that? The more ships, the more type of gameplays, the more stuff blending in together in one pot - the better. Or am I wrong? It depends. It's perfectly possible to throw so much various things together that it dilutes the "good" part of the game into a mess. Of course some will always like it, and some will always hate it, but just adding content doesn't seem like an amazing strategy. It's possible that WG goes by "lets just add stuff and see what works out", which can perfectly well find some gold gameplay in between various failures. However in that case they don't seem to want to remove the failures. Let me have a ballistic nuke ship that auto-kills one enemy of my choice. I'm sure we can balance it number-wise and it adds diversity. But it sounds pretty boring in my subjective eyes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,813 battles Report post #22 Posted February 6 17 minutes ago, Farheim said: That's just your opinion. No Not just mine. it is quite widely shared. 17 minutes ago, Farheim said: Of course. You have some? Shoot 'em. Oh...... how about fixing long standing issues of the game before showeling another dishonesty onto wows? Like Cv;s and their spoitting. Or bugs How about Weegee claiming that they balance the game for randoms and THEN frakkin up the whole game by inducing a factor( ping aka overburdening the ships DCP) which throws off the entire balance on which the game is and was supposedly carefully built?. That's just from the top of my head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #23 Posted February 6 12 minutes ago, Farheim said: Did you pull that right out off your...? No? WG themselves said subs have no place in this game? Where do you pull your absolutely hilariously stupid comments from? 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farheim Players 182 posts 6,723 battles Report post #24 Posted February 6 1 minute ago, WarburtonLee said: No Yea. Will you be so kind to help me find word 'Surface' here? My grasp of the English is not that strong unfortunately, so I might have missed it. 4 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said: WG themselves said subs have no place in this game? I wasn't monitoring everything WG says, so you could also enlighten me and provide some source of that. Preferably something that wasn't said 10 years ago. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #25 Posted February 6 (edited) 20 ore fa, Farheim ha scritto: Yea. Will you be so kind to help me find word 'Surface' here? My grasp of the English is not that strong unfortunately, so I might have missed it. I wasn't monitoring everything WG says, so you could also enlighten me and provide some source of that. Preferably something that wasn't said 10 years ago. [CONTENT REMOVED BY MODERATION] After subs having being added, despite massive resistance from the playerbase, the game is no longer surface only. [CONTENT REMOVED BY MODERATION], who doesnt seem to realize what they are doing to the game. The game WAS a surface combat game for years, and wg said they had no future plans to bring subs in. I dont have the source, but i guess a google search probably finds it Edited February 7 by Floppyz 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites