is MALTA good against cvs ?

[WarburtonLee]

4 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai_Ni said:

You have 3 people  now who are telling you how things stand and still you argue. Trying to help you is a waste of time 

And you have had plenty of people trying to explain to you, a CV main, that the class is utterly broken and so OP that nothing comes close. That you are "telling me how thing stand" is just pure BS. Its actually hilarious that you and those 2 guys are defendidng this BS. What are you "Trying to help me" with? I didnt ask for any help? 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

4 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said:

And you have had plenty of people trying to explain to you, a CV main, that the class is utterly broken and so OP that nothing comes close. That you are "telling me how thing stand" is just pure BS. Its actually hilarious that you and those 2 guys are defendidng this BS. What are you "Trying to help me" with? I didnt ask for any help? 

read the topic title. you went completely off topic. this is not about cvs being broken or not. everyone knows this. everyone agrees on it. 

 

This is about how to best snipe CVs and with what CV, preferably Malta now stop your off topic train  maybe?

[WarburtonLee]

13 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai_Ni said:

read the topic title. you went completely off topic. this is not about cvs being broken or not. everyone knows this. everyone agrees on it. 

 

This is about how to best snipe CVs and with what CV, preferably Malta now stop your off topic train  maybe?

So case closed. Those 2 other guys didnt argue with me about CV sniping, they were trying their best to convince me that CVs aint broken, RTS was worse bla bla bla, witch is NOT true. They werent trying to "tell me how things stand".

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Just now, WarburtonLee said:

So case closed. Those 2 other guys didnt argue with me about CV sniping, they were trying their best to convince me that CVs aint broken, RTS was worse bla bla bla, witch is NOT true. They werent trying to "tell me how things stand".

Tbf you started to derail the topic. Read all the way back. Sunleader explained to you why Haku is also excellent for sniping CVs. I even corrected him on a little specific detail which he briefly discussed.

 

So let's summarize the advice to you, on topic advice:

 

Haku/ Malta/ Nakhimov/ Immelmann can snipe CVs.

 

The easiest to snipe CVs with:

 

Nakhimov: Fairly easy and effective even if the enemy CV player tries to set up fighters you can just ignore those if played right for big damage.

Haku: Difficult, requires knowledge of optimizing boost on planes, when to use the heal and how fighters work. You need to be able to bait fighters correctly and manage plane reserves but Haku kills CVs the fastest as a reward

Immelmann: Similar to Naki as she's easy to use but lacks rockets (nakhi rockets if hitting the hull hit for around 15k at least) so you only use torps and skip bombers. It's easier for a CV to angle towards those and fighter planes are more of a problem for you

Malta: Hardest to use against other CVs, only torps are useable. Not recommended but possible

[WingedHussar_Adler]

59 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said:

So case closed. Those 2 other guys didnt argue with me about CV sniping, they were trying their best to convince me that CVs aint broken, RTS was worse bla bla bla, witch is NOT true. They werent trying to "tell me how things stand".

i did not try to convice you to anything, i am just stating obvious:

 

PRE REWORK cvs had as much "nerf/delete/wtf is this topics as this ones and most topics were about:

- dmg

- spoting (been able to spot every signe dd or cap in same time)

- killing dds with ease

- been safe while dooing dmg

- unlimited range

- ablitiy to hit behind iceland 

- and strafing ability

 

TODAYS CVs have as much nerf/delete/wtf is this topisc as RTS ones:

- dmg

- spoting

- safe while dooing dmg

- unlimited range

- killing dds directly or by spoting

 

 

basicly they did not "solve" any problem except bad cvs are not shut down to fighters play as before, but competent CV player before and today are far strongest ship in game due to: dmag, spoting, unlimited range, survavibility....

 

we can all agree that none of topics mancioned can be solved in any way except deleting class and we know it WILL NOT HAPPEN...i think even hardest haters of class now know cvs will not get deleted.

 

so i really dont know what you and rest want now to opet 5-6 topics per day about cvs or type thousands of whyning posts about Cvs..... why? what do you think your crusade will acomplish? 

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

On 2/5/2023 at 7:59 PM, CVs_Report_Blacklist said:

i have immelman , it is not bad , but i think FDR is stronger against cvs , a cv killed me with 3 strikes , every attack takes more than 20 k ...

 

while immelman can do 14 k if lucky ...

 

i have coal now , thinking about buying it to ruin cv players filthy fun ...

 

but i dont know about the bombers , can it penetrate cvs deck ?

 

even satsuma cannot penetrate ...

 

i feel ashamed asking about an information from cvs , but i hope someone else will help , because i am helping the community cleaning the game from cvs :D , though i cant do much alone sadly ...

Im not much of an CV expert but even I have gathered that Immerman is something of a shitshow these days. Malta is great against other surface ships but im not sure if its OP in CV snipes, for that I have gathered Eagle to be King, to kill an enemy CV in 3 strikes pretty much. As far as I know Eagle is way more powerful in CV Vs. CV engagements than United States, while US will be good in one hit strikes against cruisers.

 

That said, CV snipe is always a bad idea ... why poke the bear? You crap on anything else, why pick a somewhat fair fight with someone, if you instead can have a lot of unfair fights against surface ships? If you start provoking the enemy CV he will probably out skill you and kill you. Just because you play OP CV doesn't mean youre immune to enemy CV experience and skill. So play smart and just use the damage pinatas on the surface.

 

 

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

On 2/5/2023 at 8:08 PM, WarburtonLee said:

 Im considering getting into CVs only to strike CVs aswell. I hate how they ruin the game

Pretty much my motivation ..... also CVs is the future according to WG .... so do want to be the puncher or the punching bag?

[Fediuld]

On 2/6/2023 at 10:21 PM, CVs_Report_Blacklist said:

killing cvs joys me more a lot than winning the battle , i am ready to sacrifice everything just to kill one , yeah , that deep emotion i have against these players ... stacked day by day ... some times i am asking myself why i am still playing this game , honestly i close the game with full hating power after encountering planes and cant dodge neither fightback  ... the next day i miss the brawling and the citadel and these fun moments and i come back ... 

Who are "these players"? Because by playing a carrier you are one of "these players", or you haven't realised that? 

 

Please stop playing WOWS, go seek help from a psychiatrist because your post is a cry of help due to mental issues.

[Fediuld]

On 2/6/2023 at 10:02 PM, WarburtonLee said:

What have i said about CV gameplay that is wrong? Can you NOT strike AA cruisers easily? Can you NOT spam planes? Can you NOT light up the enemy team in under 30 seconds?

EVERYTHING is wrong of what you wrote. EVERYTHING. 

Do you want me to pick your posts and disseminate it sentence by sentence? 

Personally I would advice you to go play a T6+ carrier and see if you can replicate the nonsense you write in this discussion. 

 

That applies to all who crying throwing tantrums like 5 year olds. Go play T6+ carriers and then lets discuss constructively. 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

4 minutes ago, Fediuld said:

lets discuss constructively. 

that will likely never happen :(

[WarburtonLee]

7 minutes ago, Fediuld said:

EVERYTHING is wrong of what you wrote. EVERYTHING. 

Do you want me to pick your posts and disseminate it sentence by sentence? 

Personally I would advice you to go play a T6+ carrier and see if you can replicate the nonsense you write in this discussion. 

 

That applies to all who crying throwing tantrums like 5 year olds. Go play T6+ carriers and then lets discuss constructively. 

If i do, and show you a replay of me striking an AA cruiser, spamming planes, and light up the enemy team, will you shut the f*** up then? No you wont, you are gonna keep defending this crap

[Farheim]

I was always amused how mouthbreathers think that AA cruiser/bb/dd should be completely immune to CV strikes. By the same logic ships with a strong torpedo belt should be immune to torps. 

[WarburtonLee]

12 minutes ago, Fediuld said:

EVERYTHING is wrong of what you wrote. EVERYTHING. 

Do you want me to pick your posts and disseminate it sentence by sentence? 

Personally I would advice you to go play a T6+ carrier and see if you can replicate the nonsense you write in this discussion. 

 

That applies to all who crying throwing tantrums like 5 year olds. Go play T6+ carriers and then lets discuss constructively. 

And, btw i want you to pick my post and disseminate them. Go ahead. 

 

1 minute ago, Farheim said:

I was always amused how mouthbreathers think that AA cruiser/bb/dd should be completely invincible to CV. By the same logic ships with a strong torpedo belt should be invincible to torps. 

And im even more amused that there are people who think there should be a god-class in the game, that can do everything without taking any risk himself

[WarburtonLee]

3 minutes ago, Farheim said:

I was always amused how mouthbreathers think that AA cruiser/bb/dd should be completely invincible to CV. By the same logic ships with a strong torpedo belt should be invincible to torps. 

Sucks to be you then, when you are worse than mouthbreethers at the game

[Farheim]

1 minute ago, WarburtonLee said:

And im even more amused that there are people who think there should be a god-class in the game, that can do everything without taking any risk himself

Someone should rule the surface pleb and dominate them after all. 

1 minute ago, WarburtonLee said:

Sucks to be you then, when you are worse than mouthbreethers at the game

Am I

 

[Farheim]

Oh btw I have no idea what those numbers mean and who those stats belong to. I just posted them out of the blue, sorry, shouldn't visit this site when I'm drunk.

[Fediuld]

7 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said:

If i do, and show you a replay of me striking an AA cruiser, spamming planes, and light up the enemy team, will you shut the f*** up then? No you wont, you are gonna keep defending this crap

OK. Take Weser and do it. I give you the benefit to be able to citadel cruisers too. 

 

[Sunleader]

Just now, WarburtonLee said:

And im even more amused that there are people who think there should be a god-class in the game, that can do everything without taking any risk himself

 

Fallacy.

There is no God Class in the Game and None of us Asked for One.

You merely Pretend that CVs would be a God Class in the New System despite never even having Played them and not even knowing how half the Mechanics for them Work.

 

Your Argument is about as Good as the one of my Grandfather when he wanted to Convince me of God.

Saying that God must Exist because God Created the World and its Inhabitants.

Which is Pointless because if I dont believe in God I also wont Attribute the Worlds Creation to him.

 

Yours is the same.

Your Argument requires that we First all Consider CVs to be a God Class. Which we dont.

Thus Your Argument is Pointless.

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Farheim said:

I was always amused how mouthbreathers think that AA cruiser/bb/dd should be completely immune to CV strikes. By the same logic ships with a strong torpedo belt should be immune to torps. 

 

Because thats not how Victim Mentality Works. 

 

You cannot Expect them to be Reasonable or Logical.

They want to be given everything for free and want that you have everything taken away from you. It doesnt matter wether thats Justified, Reasonable or Fair. Human Rights only Apply to them themselves. Not to others that have or use something they dislike.

[WarburtonLee]

Eh yes. You picked ranked for some reason, where i must say after season reset i have struggled, mostly because CVs. But ill still play Khaba and such.

When it comes to random battles i have a better PR than you in every class of the game, even CVs (lol)

[WarburtonLee]

5 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

 

Fallacy.

There is no God Class in the Game and None of us Asked for One.

You merely Pretend that CVs would be a God Class in the New System despite never even having Played them and not even knowing how half the Mechanics for them Work.

 

Your Argument is about as Good as the one of my Grandfather when he wanted to Convince me of God.

Saying that God must Exist because God Created the World and its Inhabitants.

Which is Pointless because if I dont believe in God I also wont Attribute the Worlds Creation to him.

 

Yours is the same.

Your Argument requires that we First all Consider CVs to be a God Class. Which we dont.

Thus Your Argument is Pointless.

 

 

 

 

Because thats not how Victim Mentality Works. 

 

You cannot Expect them to be Reasonable or Logical.

They want to be given everything for free and want that you have everything taken away from you. It doesnt matter wether thats Justified, Reasonable or Fair. Human Rights only Apply to them themselves. Not to others that have or use something they dislike.

I dont need to play a CV to know that if im left vs that CV i cant win unless im really close. While he can strike me whenever, wherever. And if miss or shot down, there will be new ones coming asap. And you are completely helpless

[Farheim]

Just now, WarburtonLee said:

You picked ranked for some reason

Ranked for some reason. Indeed. Why would I pick the only game mode that has at least something to do with your personal skill. I mean if you hadn't played like 20 games a day in it, obviously trying to climb up, not just looting that steel and sweet doubloons, maybe I would've picked something else. But since you ruin games so hard and have a nerve to talk to me like that when you're an obvious liability to any team in ranked I had to give you little reality check. 

[WarburtonLee]

2 minutes ago, Farheim said:

Ranked for some reason. Indeed. Why would I pick the only game mode that has at least something to do with your personal skill. I mean if you hadn't played like 20 games a day in it, obviously trying to climb up, not just looting that steel and sweet doubloons, maybe I would've picked something else. But since you ruin games so hard and have a nerve to talk to me like that when you're an obvious liability to any team in ranked I had to give you little reality check. 

I dont care about reaching rank1 every sprint, ranked is what i play because i enjoy the mode more. But this season since reset have really been something... The amount of throws etc.

 

[Farheim]

1 minute ago, WarburtonLee said:

I dont care about reaching rank1 every sprint, ranked is what i play because i enjoy the mode more

You enjoy losing and ruining games for other people? You do you man, to each his own.

[Sunleader]

4 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said:

I dont need to play a CV to know that if im left vs that CV i cant win unless im really close. While he can strike me whenever, wherever. And if miss or shot down, there will be new ones coming asap. And you are completely helpless

 

Then how about you Prove that ?

 

@Zuihou_Kai_Ni has a bit of a History to Play 1 vs 1s like this.

 

So how about You Challenge him ?

You take a CV and he takes a DD of Equal Tier and You See just how Easily he is going to Roflstomp You :)

[WarburtonLee]

10 minutes ago, Farheim said:

You enjoy losing and ruining games for other people? You do you man, to each his own.

I dont enjoy loosing? The fact that still after a sick loosing-spree this season im still at 53% or something and still barely above 50% in the last 21 days. Like right now, i just lost in Grozovoi, completely winning game. But then after we have 2/3 caps, Bourgogne and Hindy decides to push the middle cap in Northern lights, witch we already had.... So much of this crap now that wasnt present last season