[1701] Millsnerf Players 3 posts 16,535 battles Report post #1 Posted February 5 As a Dido enjoyer and lover of Commonwealth ships, I was looking forward to this one. Hell, I adore Gibraltar. I saved my RB points and acquired the ship yesterday. I decided to get it with full knowledge of its pre-release concealment nerf, swap to short-range hydro, and the nerfed/bugged repair party, thinking it couldn't be that bad. It's bad. I'm familiar with how Mino, Neptune, and their smaller low-tier cousins play, and I feel that Hector suffers more from the concealment nerf than others. The main battery and ballistics are limited in range to begin with, meaning Hector is most at home up near caps and nearby islands... but even getting into position is a dangerous proposition. The broad hull and nonexistent armour are citadel city, making each second you're spotted in open water a potentially life-ending one. This ship NEEDS a proper repair party to have any long-lasting battle impact. It's advertised as having one. In practice, its release version 14%/10% citadel damage repair party is next to useless, healing back barely a medium-caliber AP shell or two worth of damage. Tragic, and probably destined to be a port queen. Please restore the ship's repair party to its intended values. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #2 Posted February 5 39 minutes ago, Millsnerf said: Tragic, and probably destined to be a port queen. Thats all WG asked of this ship to do, to drain players resources. Nothing more, nothing less. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maybe__baby Players 82 posts 1,454 battles Report post #3 Posted February 5 for some unknown reason, the developers make all the ships in the research bureau unplayable garbage dumps. and stubbornly pretend that everything is fine. no one will change anything. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VIBES] tocqueville8 Players 3,717 posts 39,400 battles Report post #4 Posted February 5 You're late to the funeral 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MMI-C] stefanorgano Players 149 posts 9,868 battles Report post #5 Posted February 5 10 minutes ago, maybe__baby said: for some unknown reason, the developers make all the ships in the research bureau unplayable garbage dumps. and stubbornly pretend that everything is fine. no one will change anything. Ohio is possibly the strongest T10 BB in the game. Slava, Colbert and Vampire II are also really good if you know how to play them. Even Yolo Emilio has its moments. Most RB ships are either good or fun, or both. To OP: forget about Hector buffs. They don't buff RB ships if that's not likely to put money into their pockets. Forever remember Siegfried, advertised as the ultimate brawling cruiser, then basically neutered by commander rework and never touched since. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maybe__baby Players 82 posts 1,454 battles Report post #6 Posted February 5 21 minutes ago, stefanorgano said: Ohio is possibly the strongest T10 BB in the game. Slava, Colbert and Vampire II are also really good if you know how to play them. Even Yolo Emilio has its moments. Most RB ships are either good or fun, or both. To OP: forget about Hector buffs. They don't buff RB ships if that's not likely to put money into their pockets. Forever remember Siegfried, advertised as the ultimate brawling cruiser, then basically neutered by commander rework and never touched since. on what basis do you say that? It doesn't show up in your statistics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EMPOR] _DemonGuard_ Players 982 posts Report post #7 Posted February 5 5 hours ago, stefanorgano said: Ohio is possibly the strongest T10 BB in the game. And then a submarine shows up... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MMI-C] stefanorgano Players 149 posts 9,868 battles Report post #8 Posted February 5 6 hours ago, maybe__baby said: on what basis do you say that? It doesn't show up in your statistics. General consensus around these ships is they are all pretty good, just ask around. I have Ohio and Slava and I can tell you, they are very good. About to unlock Colbert btw, we'll see about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #9 Posted February 5 6 hours ago, maybe__baby said: on what basis do you say that? It doesn't show up in your statistics. Hector doesn’t show in anyone’s stats. For some reason it doesn’t exist on wows-numbers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POPPY] Chaos_Umbra [POPPY] Players 1,662 posts 20,300 battles Report post #10 Posted February 5 Rather than the heal I have more of an annoyance with the lack of narrow spread on the Torps it is either single launch or wide which is worthless 90% of the time, having to manually form a narrow spread is really Frustrating! There is a reason than RN CLs and DDs have access to Narrow and Single launch not the Wide and Single when they were first entering testing all those years ago... Also I think it could do with it's concealment at least being on par with Edinburgh the last minute nerf was a little too much, Sub 9km was too strong but 9.4km is a bit overkill for such a squishy ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #11 Posted February 5 18 minutes ago, Chaos_Umbra said: Rather than the heal I have more of an annoyance with the lack of narrow spread on the Torps it is either single launch or wide which is worthless 90% of the time, having to manually form a narrow spread is really Frustrating! There is a reason than RN CLs and DDs have access to Narrow and Single launch not the Wide and Single when they were first entering testing all those years ago... Also I think it could do with it's concealment at least being on par with Edinburgh the last minute nerf was a little too much, Sub 9km was too strong but 9.4km is a bit overkill for such a squishy ship. The torp issue will be fixed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POPPY] Chaos_Umbra [POPPY] Players 1,662 posts 20,300 battles Report post #12 Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, Miscommunication_dept said: The torp issue will be fixed. Nice to know, as it is my main issue with it when I have played it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #13 Posted February 5 18 minutes ago, Chaos_Umbra said: Rather than the heal I have more of an annoyance with the lack of narrow spread on the Torps it is either single launch or wide which is worthless 90% of the time, having to manually form a narrow spread is really Frustrating! There is a reason than RN CLs and DDs have access to Narrow and Single launch not the Wide and Single when they were first entering testing all those years ago... Also I think it could do with it's concealment at least being on par with Edinburgh the last minute nerf was a little too much, Sub 9km was too strong but 9.4km is a bit overkill for such a squishy ship. The torp issue will be fixed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #14 Posted February 5 11 hours ago, maybe__baby said: on what basis do you say that? It doesn't show up in your statistics. Just look at ASW given to ships. Ohio shares the same ASW range as all "known overpowered" BBs like Thunderer, Musashi, Massachusetts, with range reduced by 5km Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BATES] ItsEyeJasper Players 559 posts 14,433 battles Report post #15 Posted February 6 15 hours ago, Panocek said: Just look at ASW given to ships. Ohio shares the same ASW range as all "known overpowered" BBs like Thunderer, Musashi, Massachusetts, with range reduced by 5km And not Georgia right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #16 Posted February 6 47 minutes ago, ItsEyeJasper said: And not Georgia right? Alaska, Georgia and Missouri keep normal ASW ranges for their tiers and classes, that being 7km and 10km respectively, despite being removed ships from sales. Jean Bart on other hand, is part of "overpowered" gang and have 5km ASW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BATES] ItsEyeJasper Players 559 posts 14,433 battles Report post #17 Posted February 6 17 minutes ago, Panocek said: Alaska, Georgia and Missouri keep normal ASW ranges for their tiers and classes, that being 7km and 10km respectively, despite being removed ships from sales. Jean Bart on other hand, is part of "overpowered" gang and have 5km ASW I mean Georgia and Alaska are OP for thier tier, it just shows WG reasoning for such short ranges is just stupid no other words can be used to describe it. Unless i resort to colorful words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #18 Posted February 6 1 minute ago, ItsEyeJasper said: I mean Georgia and Alaska are OP for thier tier, it just shows WG reasoning for such short ranges is just stupid no other words can be used to describe it. Unless i resort to colorful words. One does not simply question gossip of Saint Spreadshiet with mere common sense 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AWSL] ReDiR20 Players 473 posts 4,975 battles Report post #19 Posted February 6 4 minutes ago, ItsEyeJasper said: I mean Georgia and Alaska are OP for thier tier, it just shows WG reasoning for such short ranges is just stupid no other words can be used to describe it. Unless i resort to colorful words. Georgia is joke of BB, one of the worst on tier 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #20 Posted February 6 1 minute ago, ReDiR20 said: Georgia is joke of BB, one of the worst on tier I am seeing example of skill issue here? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BATES] ItsEyeJasper Players 559 posts 14,433 battles Report post #21 Posted February 6 1 minute ago, Panocek said: I am seeing example of skill issue here? or Big Braining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #22 Posted February 6 Who was the forumite who used to say ships like JB were rubbish ... having never played them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OLEUM] Pinco047 Players 98 posts 20,382 battles Report post #23 Posted February 11 JB and Georgia are the best T9 BBs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POPPY] Chaos_Umbra [POPPY] Players 1,662 posts 20,300 battles Report post #24 Posted February 11 On 2/5/2023 at 6:03 PM, Miscommunication_dept said: The torp issue will be fixed. Apparently not, as apparently only having Extra Wide Spread or Single is a Feature like the 10% Citadel Heal is a Feature... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerderklaus Players 299 posts 16,115 battles Report post #25 Posted February 11 On 2/5/2023 at 11:43 AM, stefanorgano said: Ohio is possibly the strongest T10 BB in the game. Slava, Colbert and Vampire II are also really good if you know how to play them. Even Yolo Emilio has its moments. Most RB ships are either good or fun, or both. To OP: forget about Hector buffs. They don't buff RB ships if that's not likely to put money into their pockets. Forever remember Siegfried, advertised as the ultimate brawling cruiser, then basically neutered by commander rework and never touched since. Check the nation of Siegfried and you know why. "If you know how to play them"... Slava: Get random allies who spot for you, get random enemies who show a lot of broadside and get random people who make the match last for a while instead of fast finishes. On 2/6/2023 at 3:42 PM, ReDiR20 said: Georgia is joke of BB, one of the worst on tier Lots of buffs to USN BBs were to compensate for their users... Are you the one who complained about the pre-release nerfs on Conqueror? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
