Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #1 Posted February 3 So my main goal is to get 2 tier X and then to get myself a T11. I am not against grinding, so I ask myself, which economic, chip, captain buff is "better" or "best" to get , assuming I have 10k dubloons or more if needed. what chest, or combo of chests or what way to get buffs would be optimal thank you in advance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] DDG_121 Players 791 posts 10,936 battles Report post #2 Posted February 3 I think you better off buying a good premium ship, in one of the lines you consider reaching TierX, or even premium time might be the most valuable thing in the long run. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #3 Posted February 3 5 minutes ago, Zimbiye said: I think you better off buying a good premium ship, in one of the lines you consider reaching TierX, or even premium time might be the most valuable thing in the long run. oops, I forgot to say I have a renown 44 and Midway and Massachuset that I use for main gameplay, ty for helping me :) I have Iowa and NC and going for the Montana I have the american subs and going for the Tier X sub after that my plan (evil plot I know) is to get the Unites States CV, thats my main goal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] DDG_121 Players 791 posts 10,936 battles Report post #4 Posted February 3 if you don't plan to spend on the game, your best bet may be premium wows only time then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #5 Posted February 3 Really wouldn’t bother with superships until you have the majority of tier ten ships AND hundreds of millions of credits. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #6 Posted February 3 35 minutes ago, Miscommunication_dept said: Really wouldn’t bother with superships until you have the majority of tier ten ships AND hundreds of millions of credits. Take heed of this sage advice @Spearhawk1969 - this is not a miscommunitication (sorry mate, couldn't resist poking fun at your nickname ) WG have designed the economy of super-ships to be horrendously expensive to run. Not only is the initial purchase cost a lot but also each match in them will most likely cost you A LOT of credits. They're intended for veteran players that Have shed loads of credits already to hand, and don't have much left to spend them on Plenty of other ships, which do make a credit profit, that can subsidize any matches in super-ships. It's also a wise idea to grind your way up a few different tech trees (instead of rushing up one) at the same time. So that you gain a wider view point on the strengths & weaknesses of each ship, class and nation. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPURD] Itwastuesday Players 1,768 posts 13,575 battles Report post #7 Posted February 3 Even if you have premium ships I still say premium ship. It'll be more fun for you in the long run. If you insist on playing these griefer ships, maybe get Chkalov or Kaga? Or I-56 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #8 Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Spearhawk1969 said: So my main goal is to get 2 tier X and then to get myself a T11. Man, don't. 2 hours ago, Spearhawk1969 said: I have the american subs and going for the Tier X sub after that my plan (evil plot I know) is to get the Unites States CV, thats my main goal Now that you say it, what a great idea! Use your dubs to buy premium and then go for the extra experience flags. Don't mind the naysayers, supershit upkeep is actually reasonably cheap and your whole team just loves and adores a brand new low PR CV player, they'll literally throw their hard gained reports compliments at you. And should you really run out of money, WG got you covered: you can always buy more silver using these worthless real money things your day job earns you. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #9 Posted February 3 1 hour ago, NewHorizons_1 said: Take heed of this sage advice @Spearhawk1969 - this is not a miscommunitication (sorry mate, couldn't resist poking fun at your nickname ) I could not help but to laugh, thank you, hahahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SFSO] Ymustihaveaname Players 362 posts 14,119 battles Report post #10 Posted February 4 4 hours ago, NewHorizons_1 said: WG have designed the economy of super-ships to be horrendously expensive to run. The problem is, what do you consider horrendously expensive? I fully agree unless you have good games and or run good boasters they lose "lots" of money, but what is lots? I find maybe losing 100K ish per battle running green credit boasters on average? (But I have around 300+M all the time, so dont really care anyway)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #11 Posted February 4 thank you all for your opinion, the reason I want the Tier11 is because its there, its a challenge to me, I do not fully intent to play it as much as I do my Midway, its the collector in me that sees a CV with rocket propelled aircrafts and I got to have it :) if it then only gets played a few times a month then so be it but ill have it then, muahahahahaaa 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #12 Posted February 4 No offence here m8, but take it slow. Take it very slow. As it is for almost every player: the higher you go up in tiers, the more your gameplay deficits show. Why am I saying this? Look at your results in Massachusetts and compare them to the server average (eg. here: https://wows-numbers.com/ships/). Massa is one of the strongest BBs at tier VIII and your results are far from showing it. So take your time, learn the basics in tiers VI-VIII before rushing to tier XI. Cause you'll just frustrate yourself and your team if you can't pull your own weight. Main tip: look at videos and such on how to aim, as your hit ratio is, sorry to say, abysmal. And as a result so is your damage and impact on the game. Good luck in your endeavors! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #13 Posted February 4 5 hours ago, Ymustihaveaname said: But I have around 300+M all the time, so dont really care anyway Precisely. You've got a shed load of credits to hand. If you're a relatively new player, you won't have accumulated that much and you're going to spending credits on unlocking ships and equipping them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #14 Posted February 4 1 hour ago, 159Hunter said: Why am I saying this? Look at your results in Massachusetts and compare them to the server average (eg. here: https://wows-numbers.com/ships/). Massa is one of the strongest BBs at tier VIII and your results are far from showing it. Hello, and thank you, I know my Mass numbers sux, but thats 5 years ago. I am CV player, and on my CV I am 52-54% winrate I did not understand the Mass and made many mistakes. sadly the api is busted for WoWs, otherwise youd see my Renown '44 which is far more fun than Mass, it is just all the bad games with the Mass that shows and that was as I said 5 years ago :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #15 Posted February 4 1 hour ago, NewHorizons_1 said: Precisely. You've got a shed load of credits to hand. If you're a relatively new player, you won't have accumulated that much and you're going to spending credits on unlocking ships and equipping them. But I am not a new player, I am over 5 years old player (not speaking of real age ofc) :) I have a few hundred millions to spend :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #16 Posted February 4 25 minutes ago, Spearhawk1969 said: But I am not a new player, I am over 5 years old player (not speaking of real age ofc) :) I have a few hundred millions to spend :) Ah, OK. My mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #17 Posted February 4 1 hour ago, NewHorizons_1 said: Ah, OK. My mistake. Its alright, its my fault for not providing information :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #18 Posted February 4 15 hours ago, Spearhawk1969 said: thank you all for your opinion, the reason I want the Tier11 is because its there, its a challenge to me, I do not fully intent to play it as much as I do my Midway, its the collector in me that sees a CV with rocket propelled aircrafts and I got to have it :) if it then only gets played a few times a month then so be it but ill have it then, muahahahahaaa The 'collector' in you who wants a 'challange' seem to miss the challenge of collecting hundreds of other ships before humping a broken US carrier. The greed in you and the griefer in you want to go for broken ships. Dont be afraid to say it like it is. You're even willing to pay and lootbox for it. Premium time is your friend. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #19 Posted February 4 2 hours ago, Europizza said: The 'collector' in you seems who wants a 'challange' seem to miss the challenge of collecting hundreds of other ships before humping a broken US carrier. The greed in you and the griefer in you want to go for broken ships. Dont be afraid to say it like it is. You're even willing to pay and lootbox for it. Premium time is your friend. HAH!!! I am CV player, I know the hate I get for it, I have mostly USN ships, so combo that together with a desire to get rocket propelled airplanes, then yeah, its the Unites States CV. my grand plan after that is to get the Swedish DD, then go for the English navy, then chinese. So yeah, I have a grander plan and im not stopping after the Tier 11 CV, I want Tier 11 Battleships etc so my plan is years and years of grinding. The thing is, im willing to throw some IRL cash at getting buffs etc to make it just a little bit more fun. as I keep track of basically every battle I do, dmg, xp, cap xp etc and I keep those in a excel document so for me to get buffs makes it just a bit more fun to grind, whatever I do grind that is. Hence my original question, set aside all opinions of my goals, What is the best set of buffs to get, what chest to buy to get economic buffs thats better that was after all my original question :) 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #20 Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Spearhawk1969 said: The thing is, im willing to throw some IRL cash at getting buffs etc to make it just a little bit more fun. as I keep track of basically every battle I do, dmg, xp, cap xp etc and I keep those in a excel document As mentioned earlier Premium account is the best "buff" Premium "battlepass" will give you some steel and Research Bureau points Play ranked to get even more steel and potentially obtain OP "steel" ships (Bourgogne, Shikishima, Mecklenburg etc.) Grind FXP and reset shiplines to get Research bureau points and get OP research bureau ships (Ohio, Slava, Paulo Emilio etc.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #21 Posted February 4 14 minutes ago, Ronchabale said: As mentioned earlier Premium account is the best "buff" Premium "battlepass" will give you some steel and Research Bureau points Play ranked to get even more steel and potentially obtain OP "steel" ships (Bourgogne, Shikishima, Mecklenburg etc.) Grind FXP and reset shiplines to get Research bureau points and get OP research bureau ships (Ohio, Slava, Paulo Emilio etc.) Sverigeeeee I have premium bs, and I have perm premium on the ships. however the research points, thats something I missed what is that? how do I check it? I know the clan has a building but when I click it it just says adding x points. I may have missed something important so thank you. ahh it requires 5 tier x ships, I am only at one so far, getting 2 more soon, so another goal in sight, to get 5 tier x ships, wooot :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #22 Posted February 4 30 minutes ago, Spearhawk1969 said: Sverigeeeee I have premium bs, and I have perm premium on the ships. however the research points, thats something I missed what is that? how do I check it? I know the clan has a building but when I click it it just says adding x points. I may have missed something important so thank you. ahh it requires 5 tier x ships, I am only at one so far, getting 2 more soon, so another goal in sight, to get 5 tier x ships, wooot :) Research points is gained by resetting a shipline where you have obtained tier 10 When you regrind the ships you get research points Yes, you need to have 5 tier 10 ships to start regrinding https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Research_Bureau Some real nice ships to get for research points Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #23 Posted February 4 2 hours ago, Spearhawk1969 said: HAH!!! I am CV player, I know the hate I get for it, I have mostly USN ships, so combo that together with a desire to get rocket propelled airplanes, then yeah, its the Unites States CV. my grand plan after that is to get the Swedish DD, then go for the English navy, then chinese. So yeah, I have a grander plan and im not stopping after the Tier 11 CV, I want Tier 11 Battleships etc so my plan is years and years of grinding. The thing is, im willing to throw some IRL cash at getting buffs etc to make it just a little bit more fun. as I keep track of basically every battle I do, dmg, xp, cap xp etc and I keep those in a excel document so for me to get buffs makes it just a bit more fun to grind, whatever I do grind that is. Hence my original question, set aside all opinions of my goals, What is the best set of buffs to get, what chest to buy to get economic buffs thats better that was after all my original question :) I did answer you question. As I and some others already mentioned: premium time is your best buff for most of the things you could want. I wasn't insensitive to your queston, just sensitive to the 'im a collector' excuse to explain away excessive spending, gambling addictions and in this werid case, a specific narrow knack for broken classes. There is no 'chest to buy' that will enhance your gameplay in the arena as far as I can tell, except for example the blue bonuses like in the air supply containers. But I would hardly recommend spending money on regular lootboxes unless you are somehow willing to pay money to finish collections. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spearhawk1969 Players 149 posts 2,036 battles Report post #24 Posted February 4 39 minutes ago, Europizza said: I did answer you question. As I and some others already mentioned: premium time is your best buff for most of the things you could want. I wasn't insensitive to your queston, just sensitive to the 'im a collector' excuse to explain away excessive spending, gambling addictions and in this werid case, a specific narrow knack for broken classes. There is no 'chest to buy' that will enhance your gameplay in the arena as far as I can tell, except for example the blue bonuses like in the air supply containers. But I would hardly recommend spending money on regular lootboxes unless you are somehow willing to pay money to finish collections. Then perhaps I did not explain sufficiently. Ill show in image what bonuses I am meaning. although it says in russian, as I did not have time to grab my own, these are the bonuses I mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #25 Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Spearhawk1969 said: Then perhaps I did not explain sufficiently. Ill show in image what bonuses I am meaning. These buffs are all economic. I don't understand what you are asking I think? Looking at your plans, you are grinding lines. Again, premium time is your friend. Especially on the long term goals as it boosts your credit and XP income. After that, the XP and credit buffs if you want to play through those lines, FXP buffs if you want to skip through them. Captain XP is my favorite buff, but mainly becaue I mostly play premium ships and I can use my special captains on all of them. You can't buy specific blue or red buffs as far as I know. The air supply crates I mentioned earlier have a chance to drop 'a' blue buff (hopefully) but you dont get to pick what. That's the core business model of this game: spend money, get a few items you want and a majority of items you don't, so you spend more. In the end you always overpay for the item and the house wins. If anything, get the battlepass, that one drops blue and red buffs on the way as well. I would not recommend buying lootcrates for these buffs at all and you can only directly buy green ones i think. None of those are worth any money. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites