Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #51 Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said: You seem to be missing the point. My point is, lots of DDs is bad for everyone, also the DDs themselves. Lots of cruisers is also bad for everyone, including the cruisers. Lots of BBs is not bad for anyone, even though some cruiser players may suffer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #52 Posted January 29 Just now, Karkong_the_Impaler said: Lol, becouse i belive it :D In ANY ship, i always try to go to the flank where BBs are 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #53 Posted January 29 18 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said: You seem to be missing the point. My point is, lots of DDs is bad for everyone, also the DDs themselves. Lots of cruisers is also bad for everyone, including the cruisers. Lots of BBs is not bad for anyone, even though some cruiser players may suffer As I told you, that is your personal opinion. Many players see that differently. The more DD are in the match, the easier they are to counter and playing Cruisers with a lot of Cruisers in the match is a lot of fun and the best option for Cruisers to get some citadel hits. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #54 Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: As I told you, that is your personal opinion. Many players see that differently. The more DD are in the match, the easier they are to counter and playing Cruisers with a lot of Cruisers in the match is a lot of fun and the best option for Cruisers to get some citadel hits. So you are saying if you are playing a BB you want more DDs in the games, becouse they are easier to counter. Noted. Now, if your DDs die then, is it better to face 5 of them or 1-2? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #55 Posted January 29 22 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said: Lol, becouse i belive it :D In ANY ship, i always try to go to the flank where BBs are Depends on the cruiser you play. Gibraltar for example suffers greatly, Colbert doesn't really mind as long as there is someone to piss on. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #56 Posted January 29 21 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said: So you are saying if you are playing a BB you want more DDs in the games, becouse they are easier to counter. Noted. Now, if your DDs die then, is it better to face 5 of them or 1-2? I do not let them get sunk so easily. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #57 Posted January 29 9 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: I do not let them get sunk so easily. When they insist, and they do often, you cant do much 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[L-DI] coolrunings_99 Players 129 posts 14,927 battles Report post #58 Posted January 29 4 hours ago, Nov_A said: You are clearly using a synthetic Copium, yet you need medical grade Ultra-Copium (99.99%), because like most people, you still have a glimmer of hope that WoWs becomes "good" again, probably a side-effect of said lower quality product, usually made of cheaper and more available Hopium. 😁that about sums it up quite fairly😎 .. but, alas, abandon hope?..never, death before, death first and then we drop a wee bit of hope. Claus Kellerman put it nicely in few recent wot videos, sumthin along the lines as if a decent level playing field scares the company thats providing it, do they think that it must be over cramped with hi-fi and lo-fi kung fu gimmicks thus yielding wider dynamic ranges of frustration vs gameplay dopamine gone good situations in order to generate more revenue. Or could they just cater to the core mechanics that made it succeed in the first bloody place😁. Under the heavy influence of SynthHopium and its derivatives I d be still foolish enough to pick the latter. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Figment Beta Tester 3,801 posts 10,499 battles Report post #59 Posted January 29 1 hour ago, WarburtonLee said: You seem to be missing the point. My point is, lots of DDs is bad for everyone, also the DDs themselves. Lots of cruisers is also bad for everyone, including the cruisers. Lots of BBs is not bad for anyone, even though some cruiser players may suffer Well, that argument didn't age well... 57 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said: Lol, becouse i belive it :D Clearly you don't. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #60 Posted January 29 9 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said: When they insist, and they do often, you cant do much Not on my teams. You know it helps to shoot the enemy DD before they take out yours? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #61 Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, Figment said: Well, that argument didn't age well... Clearly you don't. Clearly i do or i wouldnt have written it. That some players broadside BBs in their cruisers in the open will always happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #62 Posted January 29 1 minute ago, WarburtonLee said: Clearly i do or i wouldnt have written it. That some players broadside BBs in their cruisers in the open will always happen. Apart from not needing to show broadside to get blown out of the water... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #63 Posted January 29 4 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Not on my teams. You know it helps to shoot the enemy DD before they take out yours? No i didnt know that i might try it. Seriously, ive been away for years on this game and forums, but you are still around in EVERY thread speaking nothing but [edited]. Before, it was defending WG in each and every action, and it is ALWAYS defending status quo. Everything is ALWAYS fine on your team, its just BS to listen to 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #64 Posted January 29 1 minute ago, ColonelPete said: Apart from not needing to show broadside to get blown out of the water... Yeah it can happen. It can also happen you get to sit behind island and farm. Or kite and not get hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #65 Posted January 29 10 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said: No i didnt know that i might try it. Seriously, ive been away for years on this game and forums, but you are still around in EVERY thread speaking nothing but [edited]. Before, it was defending WG in each and every action, and it is ALWAYS defending status quo. Everything is ALWAYS fine on your team, its just BS to listen to Then I suggest to read more, when you read my posts in every thread you read. 9 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said: Yeah it can happen. It can also happen you get to sit behind island and farm. Or kite and not get hit. That can happen, like taking out enemy DD with your BB... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Figment Beta Tester 3,801 posts 10,499 battles Report post #66 Posted January 29 33 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said: Clearly i do or i wouldnt have written it. You would also write if if you didn't believe it, but have a vested interest in getting something out of it for yourself. You've also repeatedly made it clear that that's the case: you want a very BB friendly environment. Quote That some players broadside BBs in their cruisers in the open will always happen. You ever hear of overmatch mechanics? You don't need to be broadsided to get citadelled by quite a few BBs. Maybe not generalize so much just to dismiss an entire class of ships and their captains as having made errors if they get killed? It's quite insulting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #67 Posted January 29 12 minutes ago, Figment said: You would also write if if you didn't believe it, but have a vested interest in getting something out of it for yourself. You've also repeatedly made it clear that that's the case: you want a very BB friendly environment. You ever hear of overmatch mechanics? You don't need to be broadsided to get citadelled by quite a few BBs. Maybe not generalize so much just to dismiss an entire class of ships and their captains as having made errors if they get killed? It's quite insulting. If you look at my profile, you see im a cruiser and DD main, and i want more BBs to be the foundation of the game 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Figment Beta Tester 3,801 posts 10,499 battles Report post #68 Posted January 29 4 minutes ago, WarburtonLee said: If you look at my profile, you see im a cruiser and DD main, and i want more BBs to be the foundation of the game They currently regularly make up 50% of the forces on the matchmaker. They're the heaviest hitting, most endurance having ships. That's significant overkill when you have 5 classes of ships, several of which can be destroyed in one to a couple of volleys from these ships. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #69 Posted January 29 8 minutes ago, Figment said: They currently regularly make up 50% of the forces on the matchmaker. They're the heaviest hitting, most endurance having ships. That's significant overkill when you have 5 classes of ships, several of which can be destroyed in one to a couple of volleys from these ships. But how can you make my argument "Make BB friendly enviroment" when what i say is too many DDs and cruisers are bad for the game? Im not saying its bad for BBs only, its bad for DDs aswell as Cruisers. DDs should be max 3 in randoms, and max 2 in ranked. That way it will be better for DDs AND the heavier ships. No matter what DD i play, i never want there to be alot of DDs on each team. Same if i am in a cruiser, and also if im in a BB 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Figment Beta Tester 3,801 posts 10,499 battles Report post #70 Posted January 29 1 hour ago, WarburtonLee said: But how can you make my argument "Make BB friendly enviroment" when what i say is too many DDs and cruisers are bad for the game? BBs hate torps and HE. Quote Im not saying its bad for BBs only, its bad for DDs aswell as Cruisers. You're saying that, but your arguments to why aren't good. Instead, you'd be buffing BBs by providing them an environment with fewer ambushes, fewer needs to zig zag or keep moving rather than nose in and face longer enemy reloads so more time to heal up and repair fires and fewer floodings to repair. Quote DDs should be max 3 in randoms, and max 2 in ranked. That way it will be better for DDs AND the heavier ships. No matter what DD i play, i never want there to be alot of DDs on each team. Same if i am in a cruiser, and also if im in a BB Up to 5 DD is fine. All DD and some cruisers is also fine, it's much easier to dispatch a bunch of DD as a DD (single or double torp hit is enough) than it is to sink multiple BB, especially as HE light cruiser. The only ship class that doesn't like a lot of DDs is the BB. Again, all you're trying to do is make it BB friendlier. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #71 Posted January 29 9 minutes ago, Figment said: BBs hate torps and HE. You're saying that, but your arguments to why aren't good. Instead, you'd be buffing BBs by providing them an environment with fewer ambushes, fewer needs to zig zag or keep moving rather than nose in and face longer enemy reloads so more time to heal up and repair fires and fewer floodings to repair. Up to 5 DD is fine. All DD and some cruisers is also fine, it's much easier to dispatch a bunch of DD as a DD (single or double torp hit is enough) than it is to sink multiple BB, especially as HE light cruiser. The only ship class that doesn't like a lot of DDs is the BB. Again, all you're trying to do is make it BB friendlier. Again, im not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-YGM-] DDsOnly Players 89 posts 571 battles Report post #72 Posted January 29 Crying about MM in off peak hours, nothing but crying clowns in this forum lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-MIA-] onya999 [-MIA-] Players 34 posts 19,015 battles Report post #73 Posted January 29 And crying about other people says what about your good self?. 44 minutes ago, DDsOnly said: Crying about MM in off peak hours, nothing but crying clowns in this forum lol On a side note i think it would be benifical to have a hard cap of certain ship classes in RB's during the first 1 min of MM 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Figment Beta Tester 3,801 posts 10,499 battles Report post #74 Posted January 30 11 hours ago, WarburtonLee said: Again, im not. Let's assume you don't set out to as you say. Your suggestions would still amount to such. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #75 Posted January 30 18 hours ago, Figment said: The only ship class that doesn't like a lot of DDs is the BB. To be fair when I play torpedo DD less is better. More then 3 and it can get a bit too dense Takes more time and caution to get through them to juicy targets, many gunboats have radars, some have hydro spotting torps. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites