[CUPID] undutchable80 Players 378 posts 5,269 battles Report post #1 Posted January 27 Hiya Captains, is it known if the Sun Yat_Sen is a permanent addition to the Armory or a temporary offer? My birthday is coming up in less than a month & I still have the 25% discount coupon, so wondering if I can wait that long. Cheers, ~Dutch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,175 battles Report post #2 Posted January 27 New ships are offered for some time, removed and then readded to the armoury in the ships section. Hard to tell when WG is going to make this action. My advice - buy dubloons when you'll have the birthday coupon and when it'll be removed temporarily - wait till it'll be available to buy. Judging by it's overall performance it won't be something like Bajie as event only BB. I think it'll be like Irian or Fenyang, available all the time. Though I might be wrong. I'm going to buy it but I'm not expecting some super performance. Cause the AP alpha dmg is nerfed, it's more like 406mm dmg than 457mm, the only thing is the overmatch but the dmg itself is.... A bit underwhelming. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #3 Posted January 27 No one knows but WG and they aren't telling. 1 hour ago, KillStealBoss said: I'm going to buy it but I'm not expecting some super performance. Cause the AP alpha dmg is nerfed, it's more like 406mm dmg than 457mm, the only thing is the overmatch but the dmg itself is.... A bit underwhelming. She seems like bit lidl version of Georgia. Same gun setup, but much worse damage per shell. Both have improved secondaries, though Yat Sen higher HE pen at price of almost half the secondary DPM. Much slower, but with better armor plating, though citadel is much more exposed. Main gun accuracy upgrade interferes with secondary one, resulting in the same conundrum as on Ger BBs. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GJE] dommo77 Players 939 posts 11,373 battles Report post #4 Posted January 27 I decided on tank build and it works very well (6 secs on each side only, meh), as long as you angle you can easily get 2-3 mil potential damage without losing even half of your HP, only 6 guns but punchy and fairly accurate. Quite like her, but would not spend 19.3k dubs on her, no way. I might try secondary build in time, why not... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TALOS] Hogger4169 Players 316 posts 8,317 battles Report post #5 Posted January 27 8 hours ago, undutchable80 said: Hiya Captains, is it known if the Sun Yat_Sen is a permanent addition to the Armory or a temporary offer? My birthday is coming up in less than a month & I still have the 25% discount coupon, so wondering if I can wait that long. Cheers, ~Dutch In many cases they offered ships on bundles with dubs and after some time it went in the armory for coal or steel. Time will tell, don't rush. This is my opinion. If the coupon is still valid better take dubs, more value, at least for me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #6 Posted January 28 On 1/27/2023 at 12:12 PM, dommo77 said: Quite like her, but would not spend 19.3k dubs on her, no way. Then how did you get it? On paper, the guns have slightly better accuracy than Georgia, but lower AP damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GJE] dommo77 Players 939 posts 11,373 battles Report post #7 Posted January 28 23 minutes ago, 22cm said: Then how did you get it? On paper,the guns have slightly better accuracy than Georgia, but lower AP damage. From monthly Prime reward, first time dropped me a ship. She's solid, I like her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #8 Posted January 28 12 minutes ago, dommo77 said: From monthly Prime reward, first time dropped me a ship. She's solid, I like her. Lol, lucker. I can try the free trial and unsubscribe later, but I ll not be that lucky. It seems to be an accurate ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GJE] dommo77 Players 939 posts 11,373 battles Report post #9 Posted January 28 2 minutes ago, 22cm said: Lol, lucker. It seems to be an accurate ship. I was shocked, never got anything worth of notice from Prime, and now tier IX that will most likely be available only for dubs in Armory. Yes, I'd say her guns are consistent, although it's only 6 barrels, so it takes time to rack up damage. She is really tanky, can withstand a lot of fire. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #10 Posted January 29 9 hours ago, dommo77 said: She is really tanky, can withstand a lot of fire. Tanky and accurate seem to be its advantages. But, as disadvantages, only overmatches 31 mm, has only 6 guns with reduced AP damage, has 10% less HP than its twin, Soyuz, and gets shitted on by the new MM with T11 supershits. I dont have it, so what I m saying is based on its stats. How are the guns angles, can you shoot all 6 without showing too much the weak broadside citadel? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #11 Posted January 29 1 hour ago, 22cm said: How are the guns angles, can you shoot all 6 without showing too much the weak broadside citadel? According to wowsft, slightly better than Soyuz, probably due to twin turrets being narrower than triples. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #12 Posted January 29 Looking at her... Looking at my Musashi... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GJE] dommo77 Players 939 posts 11,373 battles Report post #13 Posted January 29 1 hour ago, 22cm said: Tanky and accurate seem to be its advantages. But, as disadvantages, only overmatches 31 mm, has only 6 guns with reduced AP damage, has 10% less HP than its twin, Soyuz, and gets shitted on by the new MM with T11 supershits. I dont have it, so what I m saying is based on its stats. How are the guns angles, can you shoot all 6 without showing too much the weak broadside citadel? All what you wrote is correct, and angles are very good in both directions, which is helpful as citadel is exposed and it's fairly easy to eat cits if not angled. Still, unless you have spare 19k dubs I would not recommend her for that price. For the ones who were fortunate like me it is a fun addition. I have seen Potato Quality vid with secondary build, and it wasn't that good - guns are good but only 6 per side, it doesn't seem to pay off to weaken main guns and protection for that, but I will try it at some point for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #14 Posted January 29 18 minutes ago, Yedwy said: Looking at her... Looking at my Musashi... Yat Sen and Georgia can actually hit what they are aiming at Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #15 Posted January 29 23 minutes ago, Panocek said: Yat Sen and Georgia can actually hit what they are aiming at And Musashi cant? Edit: Lets look at some numbers then shall we Musashi (with slot 3 module) - dispersion 9.66 "m per km distance" or 145m at 15km with 1.8 sigma - with 9 guns Sun Yat Sen (with slot 3 module) - dispersion is 10.13 "m per km distance" or 152m at 15km with 1.9 sigma (AFAIK) - with 6 guns Soo wut? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #16 Posted January 29 8 hours ago, Yedwy said: Looking at her... Looking at my Musashi... Why? Musashi is not balanced even now, when T9 is screwed by the T11 supershits MM. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
