And here we go as expected, Battle Pass rewards gimped for the same price

[Carandraug]

Well as a shock to exactly nobody, who knows a bit about Wargambling , the Battle Pass just got significantly worse for the same price. We all knew their insane greed will prevail sooner or later, but it took them just two BP iterations to say their obligatory company mantra "Screw you community".

 

And the lowering of rewards is pretty significant, so let's take a look.

 

Previously we had 60 stages of rewards and now it drops to 40, so Wargambling shills will certainly go the usual "well duh its obvious the rewards are lower". But the prices stayed exactly the same, so the argument is moot. You just pay the same for less, period. Aside of the usual junk the valid rewards are mostly coal/steel/RP, where the drop is from 41k/4.1k respectively to 27k/2.7k. All checks out nicely with 2/3 of the duration, yet they "forgot" to adjust the pricing :)

 

Final Premium reward was T7 premium in the first BP and equivalent of 5 Satan Mega crates in the second BP. Which especially in latter was actually pretty solid value and naive person would assume WG is trying to get better. Well scratch that, this time we are getting the Early Access T8 tech tree ship so value is extremely low.

 

And as a nice touch for even the hopeless insane whales, who could think the Premium Premium Battle Pass is a good idea, that got gimped as well. Did you like to pay a lot and get at least the free demount of modules as a perk ? Get lost peasant...

 

First update in 2023 looking solid, thumbs up for WG ! Is it a bird ? Is it a plane ? Or is it a miscommunication ? Who knows...

[Yosha_AtaIante]

As stated in our feedbacks to the initial BP, the rewards were overly generous for the price. It was fishy from the start.

Since the rewards are quite lower for the same price its likely I won't participate in getting the BP anymore myself 

[Carandraug]

2 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai_Ni said:

As stated in our feedbacks to the initial BP, the rewards were overly generous for the price. It was fishy from the start.

Since the rewards are quite lower for the same price its likely I won't participate in getting the BP anymore myself 

Well i wouldnt call it "overly generous" for sure anyway, but yes it was solid value. The whole idea of Battle Pass is to guarantee participation and playtime of your customer, so its value for the company is not only in the price paid. 

[Matt_FSR]

I skipped the first BP, wasn't fussed on a T7 light cruiser, they aren't sneaky and just explode.

 

I went for the Christmas battle pass for the 25 Satan tokens, and was disappointed in all but the final mega crate, out of which dropped an Indianapolis.  Not bad, haven't gotten around to using her much.

 

I went for it partly for the gamble, and partly for the extra Steel, which has pushed me extremely close to a new Steel ship, so I can't complain for Dubs that I mostly got from the September birthday crates!    But paying for the Battle Pass with these current rewards?   Nah, hard pass.

[SurfaceFish]

Good move WG. Less incentive for me to play this patch, a bit burntout from grinding snowflakes. Thank you!

 

I'll check back to see what trinkets you decides to sell to us next month. 

[NewHorizons_1]

19 minutes ago, Carandraug said:

Well i wouldnt call it "overly generous" for sure anyway, but yes it was solid value.

A T7 premium cruiser for 2500 doubloons (~ £7) was well below the normal asking price (~£24).

So I'm inclined to agree with @Zuihou_Kai_Ni  - it did get my attention and I thought, at the time, "I wonder how long this value will last?".

I spent a couple of quid to make up the doubloon shortfall for the first Battle pass as £2 for a T7 premium cruiser + goodies was a good deal.

But that last one was a paid licence to gamble on Santa crates and this one is paying to get early access to a tech tree ship.

So a no-brainer to give both BPs a big wide swerve away.

[Yedwy]

Just now, SurfaceFish said:

Good move WG. Less incentive for me to play this patch, a bit burntout from grinding snowflakes. Thank you!

 

I'll check back to see what trinkets you decides to sell to us next month. 

Yep I am finishing the DY and prob going to enjoy the new ray tracing patch for Witcher III a bit more to break in my recently aquired RTX3060

[hellhound666]

30 minutes ago, Carandraug said:

the Battle Pass just got significantly worse

you've misunderstood certainly - no way lesta would intentionally make wows experience worse ...

[SurfaceFish]

1 minute ago, Yedwy said:

Yep I am finishing the DY and prob going to enjoy the new ray tracing patch for Witcher III a bit more to break in my recently aquired RTX3060

Same here, I'm 1/2 way from completing Witcher 3, plus the 2 DLC. Not sure if I should start a fresh game to enjoy the new graphics. 

[Carandraug]

5 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

A T7 premium cruiser for 2500 doubloons (~ £7) was well below the normal asking price (~£24).

So I'm inclined to agree with @Zuihou_Kai_Ni  - it did get my attention and I thought, at the time, "I wonder how long this value will last?".

I spent a couple of quid to make up the doubloon shortfall for the first Battle pass as £2 for a T7 premium cruiser + goodies was a good deal.

But that last one was a paid licence to gamble on Santa crates and this one is paying to get early access to a tech tree ship.

So a no-brainer to give both BPs a big wide swerve away.

That's not exactly true, you were not paying 2500 dubs for T7 premium cruiser in the BP. That would be the case if you would get it instanly upon payment. You were getting it after paying AND investing a significant portion of effort and time in the game. So it can't be directly compared to the "normal" asking price.

[SV_Kompresor]

I'd have to agree that previous two BPs were far too generous. At this point it'd just be yet another way to ruin the game economy (albeit in a not really f2p way). But on the bright side, this BP lessens fomo, which means, I can take a break and play at my own pace instead of trying to finish the battlepass.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Quelle surprise.

[NewHorizons_1]

11 minutes ago, Carandraug said:

That's not exactly true, you were not paying 2500 dubs for T7 premium cruiser in the BP. That would be the case if you would get it instanly upon payment. You were getting it after paying AND investing a significant portion of effort and time in the game. So it can't be directly compared to the "normal" asking price.

Yes & no :- kinda depends when you bought the BP.

I bought it near the end (I think I got lucky with dubs from an SC) so I got Tokachi shortly after obtaining the BP.

Yes, there was a grind involved but I had already done most of that, as a side-effect of just playing my game normally, plus there were also other goodies too.

So all in all, the first BP was suspiciously good value.

[Ronchabale]

A ing tech tree ship..

30% less Coal, Steel and RB points..

Same price..

Why am I not surprised ?

Does WG have any comments ?  @Seraphice

I know it´s not your fault.. 

 

[ItsEyeJasper]

 

Battle pass is a fantastic way to encourage players play more. In order to do that you have to ensure that the rewards are enough to grab the attention of the players. The problem now comes that the 1st battle pass was by far to rewarding and now the Player base has abnormal expectation.

 

You have to be honest to yourselves though, Did you expect them not to devalue the Pass.

[MaxxyNL]

Instead of opening my wallet for this WoWs BP, i am going to spend it on the new BP for Enlisted (Gaijin )
Agreed, both Companies are doing the same scammy stuff, but hey, a change of game can do wonders.

 

Got a bit  after grinding all the Christmas/NY's "snowflakes".

 

Better luck next time WG. (or not)

[mdjmcnally]

4 minutes ago, Ronchabale said:

A ing tech tree ship..

30% less Coal, Steel and RB points..

Same price..

Why am I not surprised ?

Does WG have any comments ?  @Seraphice

I know it´s not your fault.. 

 

Presumably due to the length of the battle pass.

 

1st BP = 5 weeks - 50 stages.

2nd BP = 6 weeks - 60 stages

3rd BP = 4 wee,s - 40 stages.
 

so basically compared with last month the. Only 2/3rd effort required and getting roughly a third less resources.

 

don’t have the figures from rewards on 1st BP so cannot say if went up from 1st to 2nd.

[Cammo1962]

6 minutes ago, Ronchabale said:

A ing tech tree ship..

30% less Coal, Steel and RB points..

Same price..

Why am I not surprised ?

Does WG have any comments ?  @Seraphice

I know it´s not your fault.. 

 

Not that i will defend WG but the first one had 50 stages, second one 60 stages and the third one 40 stages and all have the same price.

[Carandraug]

1 minute ago, mdjmcnally said:

Presumably due to the length of the battle pass.

 

1st BP = 5 weeks - 50 stages.

2nd BP = 6 weeks - 60 stages

3rd BP = 4 wee,s - 40 stages.
 

so basically compared with last month the. Only 2/3rd effort required and getting roughly a third less resources.

 

don’t have the figures from rewards on 1st BP so cannot say if went up from 1st to 2nd.

Dude....the length doesnt matter, because yes lower effort lower rewards, but SAME price. 

[Cammo1962]

2 minutes ago, mdjmcnally said:

Presumably due to the length of the battle pass.

 

1st BP = 5 weeks - 50 stages.

2nd BP = 6 weeks - 60 stages

3rd BP = 4 wee,s - 40 stages.
 

so basically compared with last month the. Only 2/3rd effort required and getting roughly a third less resources.

 

don’t have the figures from rewards on 1st BP so cannot say if went up from 1st to 2nd.

What we got did go up from the first one did go up on the second one because of the 10 extra stages.

[Ronchabale]

2 minutes ago, ItsEyeJasper said:

 

You have to be honest to yourselves though, Did you expect them not to devalue the Pass.

Expect.. well.. actually no

If I buy an ice cream and it´s good, next day it´s 30% smaller for the same price.. hmm..

 

(however when it comes to WG I think we all know what to expect)

 

[Carandraug]

10 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

Yes & no :- kinda depends when you bought the BP.

I bought it near the end (I think I got lucky with dubs from SCs) so I got Tokachi shortly after I obtaining the BP.

Yes, there was a grind involved but I had already done that, as a side-effect of just playing my game normally, plus there were also other goodies too.

So all in all, the first BP was suspiciously good value.

Well the problem is in the definition i guess. Was it overly generous for WG ways ? Probably. Was it overly generous in ANY way compared to the market value and monetization ? Not even close in the wildest dreams. The pricing of WG's digital goods is insanely sky-high and it's the major sad thing for all of us, that we are conditioned to take it as "normal". 

5 minutes ago, ItsEyeJasper said:

You have to be honest to yourselves though, Did you expect them not to devalue the Pass.

Of course not, but i'm once again amused by how fast it went downhill. Also let's take a note of the usual creepy way it's delivered to us. There was no Battle Pass information in the Patch notes so it felt immediately fishy as hell. So yeah they are as always trying to catch people with surprise, not mentioning any nerfs, changes or omissions. It's by design.

[Ubertron_X]

1. BP for reference

 

 

2nd BP for reference

 

 

 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

10 minutes ago, ItsEyeJasper said:

 

Battle pass is a fantastic way to encourage players play more. In order to do that you have to ensure that the rewards are enough to grab the attention of the players. The problem now comes that the 1st battle pass was by far to rewarding and now the Player base has abnormal expectation.

 

You have to be honest to yourselves though, Did you expect them not to devalue the Pass.

 

No, personally, I expected us to get screwed over when they introduced the concept of the BP. I think many others shared that sentiment at the time when we switched over from the old reward system to this one.

[Bainsmit_steel]

And where on the web is list of BP rewards?