Multiple accounts to break rules

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Just now, ColonelPete said:

Most countries have punishments for insults, even the US and UK.

 

Like what? Stocks and rotten cabbage thrown at the infringers?

[NewHorizons_1]

19 minutes ago, Karasu_Browarszky said:

Sure if you go into a pub and start throwing insults around.

Reminds me of the first Christmas curry I went to when I started work.

After have a pint or two at one pub and then went into the Spread Eagle (heavy metal / biker's pub) and had a couple more.

Unfortunately, one of the (oldest) guys there had a bad habit of getting mouthy after he had a few.

So, he does no more than walks up to a guy (who's quietly sipping his pint) at the bar and accuses him of having a fat nose.

Needless to say, a few seconds later someone else had a fat (bloody) nose after that chap head butted him.

Rest of the guys stepped in, apologized, and bought the guy a pint.

So I ended the night thinking "What bunch of nutters have I ended up working for??"

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 minute ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

Reminds me of the first Christmas curry I went to when I started work.

After have a pint or two at one pub and then went into the Spread Eagle (heavy metal / biker's pub) and had a couple more.

Unfortunately, one of the (oldest) guys there had a bad habit of getting mouthy after he had few.

So, he does no more than walks up to a guy (who's quietly sipping his pint) at the bar and accuses him of having a fat nose.

Needless to say, a few seconds later someone else had a fat (bloody) nose after that chap head butted him.

Rest of the guys stepped in, apologized, and bought the guy a pint.

So I ended the night thinking "What bunch of nutters have I ended up working for??"

 

Sounds like someone had a lovely time in Glasgow.

[NewHorizons_1]

Just now, Karasu_Browarszky said:

Sounds like someone had a lovely time in Glasgow.

Opposite end of the country actually - Newbury.

Probably wouldn't have been quite so amicable up there.

[ColonelPete]

2 minutes ago, Karasu_Browarszky said:

 

Like what? Stocks and rotten cabbage thrown at the infringers?

Money and in very harsh cases even jailtime.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 minute ago, ColonelPete said:

Money and in very harsh cases even jailtime.

 

Not sure what kind of parallel reality you live in. Most people who would go to a police station to file a complaint for... being insulted... would get politely escorted out the door. Perhaps you have an account and the benefits that go with the 'Gorgeous' service there?

 

 

[ColonelPete]

3 minutes ago, Karasu_Browarszky said:

 

Not sure what kind of parallel reality you live in. Most people who would go to a police station to file a complaint for... being insulted... would get politely escorted out the door. Perhaps you have an account and the benefits that go with the 'Gorgeous' service there?

That may be the case in some countries, but not most of them.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insult_(legal)

[Karasu_Browarszky]

25 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Most countries have punishments for insults, even the US and UK.

 

4 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

That may be the case in some countries, but not most of them.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insult_(legal)

 

Unless I'm mistaken, the map shows insults as 'legal' in countries marked with grey, and that includes both the US and UK.

 

Furthermore, going over the explanations, to me it seems some of them mix up insults with defamation, libel and slander.

[KhorneFlake]

Welcome to the internet, where mentally weak people harass and insult other people to hide their own weakness and inability.

You cant ban them all since mankind seems to gradually regress.

 

Ignoring them helps a lot

[Seraphice]

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[NewHorizons_1]

19 hours ago, Karasu_Browarszky said:

 

I can only think of words like id and Idaho and I can't imagine those would warrant a chat ban.. I dunno, I can't figure this out maybe I'm just ....

I thought it as a lower-case L (not an upper case i) and naturally, being a C/C++ nerd, thought of the Unix linker, ld

None the less, I was a bit confused

1. Why would you need to reference a Unix development tool in a Windows game?
2. Why would you get chat banned for it?

 

 

[TheAlba2014]

2 hours ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

Opposite end of the country actually - Newbury.

Probably wouldn't have been quite so amicable up there.

I take offence as a Weegie myself! 

[TheAlba2014]

2 hours ago, Karasu_Browarszky said:

 

Yes but hate speech and insults are very far apart in legal terms.

That's true, but the legal definitions are pretty clear cut as to what construed both in a respective country. Some of what I saw written could quite easily be reported to the police to investigate.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 minute ago, TheAlba2014 said:

That's true, but the legal definitions are pretty clear cut as to what construed both in a respective country. Some of what I saw written could quite easily be reported to the police to investigate.

Well, yes but the point I was trying to make with the colonel earlier is that how easy do you think it will be to get the police investigate an 'alleged case of insulting'?

[ColonelPete]

1 hour ago, Karasu_Browarszky said:

Unless I'm mistaken, the map shows insults as 'legal' in countries marked with grey, and that includes both the US and UK.

 

Furthermore, going over the explanations, to me it seems some of them mix up insults with defamation, libel and slander.

Some countries do not differentiate, since defamation is just a different, sometimes harsher form of insult

10 minutes ago, Karasu_Browarszky said:

Well, yes but the point I was trying to make with the colonel earlier is that how easy do you think it will be to get the police investigate an 'alleged case of insulting'?

Depends on the country. Some countries allow online reporting of such cases.

[NewHorizons_1]

2 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

Most countries have punishments for insults, even the US and UK.

And I thought good ol' Blighty was known for being polite.

Not being slack about letting insults fly around left, right and centre.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 minute ago, ColonelPete said:

Some countries do not differentiate, since defamation is just a different, sometimes harsher form of insult

Depends on the country. Some countries allow online reporting of such cases.

Not all countries have such lavishly funded police departments. Nor would all countries want their police to poke their noses in people's private affairs.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 minute ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

And I thought good ol' Blighty was known for being polite.

Not being slack about letting insults fly around left, right and centre.

 

Well now we know our beloved colonel Pete hails from Salem, Massachusetts.

[ColonelPete]

7 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

And I thought good ol' Blighty was known for being polite.

Not being slack about letting insults fly around left, right and centre.

• In Veliu v Mazrekaj [2007] 1WLR 495 the claimant was accused of being implicated in the London and Paris bombings in a Kosovan newspaper.  Its circulation amongst Albanian speakers in London was said to be in the thousands.  Eady J awarded £180,000 (current value £212,400).
• In Campbell-James v Guardian Newspapers [2005] EMLR 24 an allegation was made that the claimant, a distinguished army officer, had been involved in systematic abuse and humiliation of inmates at a prison in Iraq.  In fact, when the abuse took place the claimant was not even in Iraq.  The claimant had been exposed to a long-term security risk and would not be able to work in the Middle East again, and his career was damaged.  Eady J took a starting point of £90,000 (current value £108,900).

7 minutes ago, Karasu_Browarszky said:

Not all countries have such lavishly funded police departments. Nor would all countries want their police to poke their noses in people's private affairs.

If it is the law, it is not a private affair. The police has to follow such reports.

[NewHorizons_1]

13 minutes ago, Karasu_Browarszky said:

Well now we know our beloved colonel Pete hails from Salem, Massachusetts.

Actually when the Brits do insult you, they can do it politely.

So subtly you don't even realize until about half an hour after the conversation finished.

So maybe we just find that kind of stuff hard to legislate against.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

4 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

• In Veliu v Mazrekaj [2007] 1WLR 495 the claimant was accused of being implicated in the London and Paris bombings in a Kosovan newspaper.  Its circulation amongst Albanian speakers in London was said to be in the thousands.  Eady J awarded £180,000 (current value £212,400).
• In Campbell-James v Guardian Newspapers [2005] EMLR 24 an allegation was made that the claimant, a distinguished army officer, had been involved in systematic abuse and humiliation of inmates at a prison in Iraq.  In fact, when the abuse took place the claimant was not even in Iraq.  The claimant had been exposed to a long-term security risk and would not be able to work in the Middle East again, and his career was damaged.  Eady J took a starting point of £90,000 (current value £108,900).

 

Those are not insults.. look at the goalposts go.... (<--- note the skilful use of the infamous 'Colonel dots'.)

 

4 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

If it is the law, it is not a private affair. The police has to follow such reports.

 

Sure.. they will file it.

[NewHorizons_1]

6 minutes ago, Karasu_Browarszky said:

look at the goalposts

Kinda surprised that damn Wagatha Christie trial wasn't mentioned (even though it was a civil, not criminal, trial).

Handbags at dawn with the only winners being the lawyers.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

3 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

Kinda surprised that damn Wagatha Christie trial wasn't mentioned.

Handbags at dawn with the only winners being the lawyers.

Had to google that... look at it quickly... that 'libel' case was wrong on so many levels. I'm surprised it ever went to court... Well, if someone has too much money they are free to spend it frivolously.

 

Again, though, this of course has nothing to do with insults.

[ColonelPete]

12 minutes ago, Karasu_Browarszky said:

 

Those are not insults.. look at the goalposts go.... (<--- note the skilful use of the infamous 'Colonel dots'.)

 

 

Sure.. they will file it.

If they did not feel insulted, why did they sue?

And when you prefer a police that decides what laws to uphold and which not, that is your prerogative.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Just now, ColonelPete said:

If they did not feel insulted, why did they sue?

And when you prefer a police that decides what laws to uphold and which not, that is your prerogative.

First, I believe that while different jurisdictions may have different laws and so on, I think one universal truth that holds is that police will only investigate prosecutable offenses, not civil cases. Anyone is free to sue, of course, but you need a lawyer for that and a court, not the police.

 

Secondly, in those cases I don't know if they felt insulted or not, but that was not what their case was based on.