Stop making over powered premium ships

[Kalonianhydra]

there are too many OP premiums in the game.
Way to many.
Tromp
Black
Kid
F. Sherman
to name a few, but here are many more.

[ColonelPete]

Tromp?

The rest is strong, but not OP.

[WingedHussar_Adler]

43 minutes ago, Kalonianhydra said:

there are too many OP premiums in the game.
Way to many.
Tromp
Black
Kid
F. Sherman
to name a few, but here are many more.

ahahahh and none of them is OP....probably some of them killed you = OP!!!

 

strong case of ltp

[Cpt_ZombZan_GR]

they are freemiums not premiums except kidd

[Kalonianhydra]

14 minutes ago, WingedHussar_Adler said:

ahahahh and none of them is OP....probably some of them killed you = OP!!!

 

strong case of ltp

Nope, they are simply OP. Deal with it.

[Flaky26]

Před 4 minutami Kalonianhydra řekl/a:

Nope, they are simply OP. Deal with it.

Ok. Why (in your opinion) are these ships OP? What are their benefits, that make them such strong? Such strong, that you consider them OP.

 

 

[Migantium_Mashum]

6 minutes ago, Kalonianhydra said:

Nope, they are simply OP. Deal with it.

You talk like you're 10 years old... 

 

You make the post, you disagree with more experienced players, then tell people to deal with it.

 

Far better and far more experienced players don't have to deal with anything.

[ColonelPete]

9 minutes ago, Kalonianhydra said:

Nope, they are simply OP. Deal with it.

Since I deal fine with them, I do not see your point.

Maybe you should head your advice 

[Kalonianhydra]

1 minute ago, Flaky26 said:

Ok. Why (in your opinion) are these ships OP? What are their benefits, that make them such strong? Such strong, that you consider them OP.

 

 

Just take the F. Sherman, that ship is way OP.

And there are so much conclusive prof of this. And you all know it.
It's just the owners of the ships that doesn't want to admit it.

[ColonelPete]

5 minutes ago, Kalonianhydra said:

Just take the F. Sherman, that ship is way OP.

And there are so much conclusive prof of this. And you all know it.
It's just the owners of the ships that doesn't want to admit it.

• she is no premium
• everyone can get her for free
• at the moment she is the 5th worst performing Tier X DD on the EU server...

[invicta2012]

14 minutes ago, Kalonianhydra said:

Just take the F. Sherman, that ship is way OP.

And there are so much conclusive prof of this. And you all know it.
It's just the owners of the ships that doesn't want to admit it.

I have one, it's not that great. Very situationally limited.

 

Huge amounts of dakka available but it's slow, handles heavily, has horrible torpedoes. Good player vs novice will probably be a walkover, anyone familiar with what it is and what it does can counter it, especially if they've brought one of the good Tech Tree ships like Kitakaze, Jutland, Daring, etc.

[Flaky26]

Před 2 minutami Kalonianhydra řekl/a:

Just take the F. Sherman, that ship is way OP.

Well, Sherman is in the game almost a year and has not been nerfed so far. Apparently hist statistics are not of the chart.

 

Sherman is strong thanks to combination of great firepower, smoke and hydro. Like Gronningen for example. And same as dutch DD he suffers in terms of concealment and mobility.

When Sherman is in smoke, has active hydro and someone spots enemies for him, then yes, he can use his firepower and is pretty nasty. He can also block the cap and only some DDs with hydro can contest in such situation. Or some radar ships can endanger him.

But if Sherman is in open waters without smoke, he can be outspotted by many other destroyers. And he is not that fast and doesn´t have so many HP. So if there are some enemies, they can make his life miserable.

 

So he can be strong in some situations but not always. I think he is not that strong to be considered OP.

 

BTW. In which universe is Tromp OP?

And why not Ragnar, Småland and Cossack?

[NewHorizons_1]

1 minute ago, invicta2012 said:

I have one, it's not that great. Very situationally limited.

 

Huge amounts of dakka available but it's slow, handles heavily, has horrible torpedoes. Good player vs novice will probably be a walkover, anyone familiar with what it is and what it does can counter it, especially if they've brought one of the good Tech Tree ships like Kitakaze, Jutland, Daring, etc.

Clan mate of mine won a knife-fight with one last week in Hsienyang.

The Sherman complimented them.

[Wulf_Ace]

Tromp OP hahah, you made my day boy

 

Edit: wont even comment that only Kid is premium of those and he is not OP. The rest you can get for free and be OP yourself.

[Ruthus]

It is interesting that the ones you list are very situational, and if an experienced player is put in that situation they can dominate. Get picked on by one in this way and they can be frustrating to deal with.

 

The rest of the time they are not that great. In my opinion the same applies to many silver ships. I dont rate a ship as op unless it is generally powerful and in a wide range of users hands (am looking at Russia heavy cruisers for example)

[SurfaceFish]

I consider most gun boat DD with good concealment can be considered OP, recently got the Vampire 2, better concealment than all other gunboats so can out detect them and get team to focus fire their heath down before open fire yourself. The F. Sherman is a damage farmer, might look good with avg damage but likely unimpressive win rate. If you think doing high damage is OP then yes, she can be OP. 

 

[WingedHussar_Adler]

50 minutes ago, Kalonianhydra said:

Nope, they are simply OP. Deal with it.

😅🤣😂

[Farheim]

Wrong approach my dude. This forum is populated mostly by DD mains so you won't get much sympathy by calling out some DD ships OP. If you named instead Malta, Chkalov and FDR yea you'd get a lotta likes and peeps would be like 'Yea yea this man is correct, stop adding them!'

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

1 hour ago, Kalonianhydra said:

Just take the F. Sherman, that ship is way OP.

And there are so much conclusive prof of this. And you all know it.
It's just the owners of the ships that doesn't want to admit it.

Just get it yourself and then stumble over the glaring disadvantages of having a smoke camping gunboat DD. If you were talking about supershits, I'd totally agree with you, but this?

If you're fed up with the crap of the ships you named, I propose you get either Druid or Gibraltar and distribute some justice. And/or git gud.

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

10 minutes ago, Farheim said:

Wrong approach my dude. This forum is populated mostly by DD mains so you won't get much sympathy by calling out some DD ships OP. If you named instead Malta, Chkalov and FDR yea you'd get a lotta likes and peeps would be like 'Yea yea this man is correct, stop adding them!'

DDs are the most oppressed class, supershits, CVs, supershit CVs, radar, hydro, submersible scum and now forumites who still complain about DDs... srsly?!

[SnuSnu_RIP]

Hmmm hidden stats, difficult to help you. 

I think that's the problem at the end. 

[Northern_Nightowl]

Vor 17 Minuten, Karkong_the_Impaler sagte:

DDs are the most oppressed class, supershits, CVs, supershit CVs, radar, hydro, submersible scum and now forumites who still complain about DDs... srsly?!

Kind of veto here. While there are (a few) DD that IMHO don't make their captains care about being uptiered, this can't be said about most, if not all, cruisers. So, this statement should be appealed and reworked to "cruisers are the most oppressed class".

 

Regards, Nightowl

[Woof_for_Me]

Ships are only OP if controlled by the enemy and the oppressed class is always the one in which a user has most difficulties in  playing.

Some troubled user even calls CVs to be in need for love. Imagine taking every single one of them serious.

[ColonelPete]

1 hour ago, Farheim said:

Wrong approach my dude. This forum is populated mostly by DD mains so you won't get much sympathy by calling out some DD ships OP.

On what numbers do you base your assumption or did you just make that up?

 

The good thing is that the forum does not decide which ships are premiums and how they perform.

Spoiler

https://proships.ru/stat/eu/s/99999-h/><i class=

 

[_Lupastro_]

So my Tromp has a bug....

Not to talk about Kidd...