RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #1 Posted January 15 Hello, HERMES also bugged. Alsace wonders around the map, heal circle never appears, some bots (the ones vital for the operation) not spawning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FLASH] DirtyHeddy Players 1,138 posts 27,774 battles Report post #2 Posted January 15 Nothing new at all WG failed to implement a reasonable AI in all PVE since years ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #3 Posted January 15 40 minutes ago, DirtyHeddy said: Nothing new at all WG failed to implement a reasonable AI in all PVE since years ... That being true, I must remind you that since WG brought back tested and adjusted operations (their words) this should not be happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #4 Posted January 15 46 minutes ago, RenamedUser_92906789 said: this should not be happening. They (apparently) fixed the pathing of bots in co-op. Yet they're still getting stuck on islands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #5 Posted January 15 20 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said: They (apparently) fixed the pathing of bots in co-op. Yet they're still getting stuck on islands. Yes. They also fixed bots ramming each other, yet they are ... you know, still ramming each other. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #6 Posted January 15 16 minutes ago, RenamedUser_92906789 said: Yes. They also fixed bots ramming each other, yet they are ... you know, still ramming each other. Actually, a patch or two or go both issues seem to have been improved. But have since become apparent again. Almost seems like someone, at WG, has reverted that fix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #7 Posted January 15 28 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said: Almost seems like someone, at WG, has reverted that fix. Or the temp fix plaster has come off because it got wet. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #8 Posted January 15 17 minutes ago, Migantium_Mashum said: Or the temp fix plaster has come off because it got wet. I blame all those DD mains farming flooding damage. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #9 Posted January 15 46 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said: I blame all those DD mains farming flooding damage. I'll bring you a really big plaster for when we next meet 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,893 battles Report post #10 Posted January 15 I'm not denying that bugs happen, but I wouldn't say it's "bugged as hell". I've had this twice since the Ops rework (healing circle in Hermes not appearing), so idk if it's "bugged as hell". Also dk what you mean with "vital ships not appearing"; did the CV not spawn ? Same for Aegis, I have yet to have these weird AI pathings of the allied bots and the 1st wave of enemies. I've had some weird 2nd wave spawns but that was well over a month ago and I've not seen it since. And I play about a dozen of Ops almost every day, so it's not due to lack of sample size. Honestly I'm wondering if / how you guys are messing up the AI so much Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BREW] Bland_42 Players 751 posts 10,864 battles Report post #11 Posted January 15 1 ora fa, lup3s ha scritto: I'm not denying that bugs happen, but I wouldn't say it's "bugged as hell". I've had this twice since the Ops rework (healing circle in Hermes not appearing), so idk if it's "bugged as hell". Also dk what you mean with "vital ships not appearing"; did the CV not spawn ? Same for Aegis, I have yet to have these weird AI pathings of the allied bots and the 1st wave of enemies. I've had some weird 2nd wave spawns but that was well over a month ago and I've not seen it since. And I play about a dozen of Ops almost every day, so it's not due to lack of sample size. Honestly I'm wondering if / how you guys are messing up the AI so much TBH I usually do a couple of Ops daily (when it's a gaming day) and so far happened to me only once in Aegis. Unprovoked, no players was going north/south and no CV to early spotting... the 1st wave bots were going straight east when spotted first time. Sadly it was also a match where I was sailing my Weimar to retrain a commander... and with its low range I was forced to push, resulting in a very bad position and fast sinking. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #12 Posted January 15 4 hours ago, lup3s said: Also dk what you mean with "vital ships not appearing"; did the CV not spawn ? Bayern with 2 DDs did not spawn. There is a requirement "Destroy enemy battleships 5" ... since it did not spawn, the mission can't be done can it? Its all in the screens. The bug also appeared in Newport. Had it today. So, we can look trough the fingers and accept their "rework" as successful, since this things happen ... well "rarely". But when they do ... it is frustrating ... so the mature thing would be to admit and to look into it asap. I am also trying to press them, because some bugs in this game are present from the start and they did nothing about them in 7 years. Also ... "Honestly I'm wondering if / how you guys are messing up the AI so much " ... are you actually trying to blame the players for this???? :D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,893 battles Report post #13 Posted January 15 1 hour ago, RenamedUser_92906789 said: Also ... "Honestly I'm wondering if / how you guys are messing up the AI so much " ... are you actually trying to blame the players for this???? :D Not blaming anyone, I'm just wondering if anything specific triggers this erratic AI behaviour. Speaking of weird AI behaviour, seems like I jinxed it with my previous post; the allied bots are not supposed to move this way in the Newport Defense Operation : The Liberty ship that is supposed to repair the base structures, sailed way too far forward. Spoiler The "allied Aircraft Carrier" Des Moines also took an odd path; usually it just sails straight South. No surprise that it got killed by the Roon and Nagato. Spoiler @Seraphice : replay attached 20230115_195236_PRSA108-Pobeda_s02_Naval_Defense.wowsreplay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #14 Posted January 15 21 minutes ago, lup3s said: Not blaming anyone, I'm just wondering if anything specific triggers this erratic AI behaviour. Speaking of weird AI behaviour, seems like I jinxed it with my previous post; the allied bots are not supposed to move this way in the Newport Defense Operation : The Liberty ship that is supposed to repair the base structures, sailed way too far forward. Reveal hidden contents The "allied Aircraft Carrier" Des Moines also took an odd path; usually it just sails straight South. No surprise that it got killed by the Roon and Nagato. Reveal hidden contents @Seraphice : replay attached 20230115_195236_PRSA108-Pobeda_s02_Naval_Defense.wowsreplay I think they are tweaking ops on live server... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #15 Posted January 16 WTH is going on WG??? The amount of OPS fails I had the past few days is increased noticeable ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,893 battles Report post #16 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, RenamedUser_92906789 said: WTH is going on WG??? The amount of OPS fails I had the past few days is increased noticeable ... Replay ? In my experience, the Ruan gets stuck due to other players ramming or blocking it (replay could provide answer) - then again our Ops experiences seem to differ a lot. Btw, are you always playing Kaga in Ops ? Seems like every screenshot you post has you sailing her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #17 Posted January 16 51 minutes ago, lup3s said: Replay ? In my experience, the Ruan gets stuck due to other players ramming or blocking it (replay could provide answer) - then again our Ops experiences seem to differ a lot. Btw, are you always playing Kaga in Ops ? Seems like every screenshot you post has you sailing her. Ye im just playing Kaga for like a month now ... farming CMD XP with it (leveling IJN captains. Only 2 left till 21pts). Its a beast in OPS (except Aegis and Hermes where AA is just a bit too strong, or the ops is broken), can carry alone if the potato sack isn't just a bit too heavy. Idk where the replay is .. similar filenames .. doesnt matter .. its possible that somebody touched the bot .. still it shouldnt happen 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #18 Posted January 17 I find it hilarious that in 2023 after all we have seen anybody can belive any word WG utters about fixing anything in game, only thing they are maintaining nowadays are the premium shop and various armory modules intended for one to spend the doubloons and other bought stuff on various gambling events Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
