[CSOL] TheKaramelka Players 241 posts 3,747 battles Report post #1 Posted January 6 Here I will not make a suggestion for the branches. Here I want to show what ships I drew, starting from projects, references, or just "what if" (as developers) and created some ships. I hope you will like it: French aircraft carrier Pégoud: Spoiler A few days ago, you could already watch it: the project and what if, the creation of an aircraft carrier based on the hull of the Alsace class battleship project after the war, since the French after the war very much wanted aircraft carriers and wanted to get them in any way. Tactical and technical characteristics: Spoiler Displacement: 40600 t Deck: 105 mm Armor belt: 105 mm Overall length: 268 m Hangar: 76 aircraft Secondary Armament: 12х2 127 mm/54 Mle 1948 on an Mle 1948 mount AA defense: 12х2 127 mm/54 Mle 1948 on an Mle 1948 mount 12х2 57 mm/60 Mle 1951 on an ACAD Mle 1948 mount Maximum speed: 34,3 kts. French aircraft carrier Ile-de-France: Spoiler As in the case of the previous one, a post-war project. However, he has the right to live and is quite real. The fact is that the battleship Strasbourg was really seriously considered for restructuring into a light aircraft carrier, but due to the high cost, the plan was not implemented. Spoiler Displacement: 29700 t Deck: 30 mm Armor belt: 100 mm Overall length: 215,1 m Hangar: 36 aircraft Secondary Armament: 2х4 130 mm/45 Mle 1932 on an Mle 1932 mount 2х2 130 mm/45 Mle 1932 on an Mle 1932 mount AA defense: 2х4 130 mm/45 Mle 1932 on an Mle 1932 mount 2х2 130 mm/45 Mle 1932 on an Mle 1932 mount 12х4 40 mm Bofors on a Mk.2 mount 36х1 20 mm Oerlikon on a Mk.2 mount Maximum speed: 32,5 kts. French aircraft carrier France: Spoiler You could also watch it: this is my implementation of the conversion of the hull of the battleship Jean Bart into an aircraft carrier. Like Strusburg, Jean Bart was considered as an aircraft carrier conversion. However, I decided to reconsider my restructuring of the United States, with its weapons, if France decided to rebuild the battleship at its own facilities, and arming it with its weapons of the 50s. Spoiler Displacement: 33900 t Deck: 105 mm Armor belt: 152 mm Overall length: 247,8 m Hangar: 56 aircraft Secondary Armament: 12х2 100 mm/55 Mle 1945 on a CAD Mle 1953 mount AA defense: 12х2 100 mm/55 Mle 1945 on a CAD Mle 1953 mount 12х2 57 mm/60 Mle 1951 on an ACAD Mle 1948 mount Maximum speed: 34 kts. French aircraft carrier Commandant Teste: Spoiler Just like the previous three aircraft carriers, Commandant Teste was considered for restructuring into an escort aircraft carrier (like the Bogue, Casablanca and others that had already gone through the war). Spoiler Displacement: 11900 t Deck: 13 mm Armor belt: 30 mm Overall length: 167 m Hangar: 30 aircraft Secondary Armament: 4х2 100 mm/45 Mle 1933 on an Mle 1937 mount AA defense: 4х2 100 mm/45 Mle 1933 on an Mle 1937 mount 6х2 40 mm Bofors on a Mk.1 mount 6х2 20 mm Oerlikon on a Mk.24 mount Maximum speed: 20,5 kts. French aircraft carrier Roubaix: Spoiler The PA31 project, which was a further development of the PA28 Clemenceau project. For this project, there were only mentions and no more, I decided to design an aircraft carrier based on the American and British schools of shipbuilding. Spoiler Displacement: 39700 t Deck: 19 mm Armor belt: 75 mm Overall length: 230 m Hangar: 76 aircraft Secondary Armament: 8х2 127 mm/54 Mle 1948 on an Mle 1948 mount AA defense: 8х2 127 mm/54 Mle 1948 on an Mle 1948 mount 12х2 57 mm/60 Mle 1951 on an ACAD Mle 1948 mount Maximum speed: 35,5 kts. Italian aircraft carrier Falco: Spoiler A light aircraft carrier project based on the Zara-class heavy cruisers. This aircraft carrier was designed by the same person who designed the cruisers Zara and Bolzano. Spoiler Displacement: 17000 t Deck: 13 mm Armor belt: 75 mm Overall length: 200 m Hangar: 30 aircraft Secondary Armament: 8x2 100 mm/47 Model 1924/27/28 on a Eugenio Minisini mount AA defense: 8x2 100 mm/47 Model 1924/27/28 on a Eugenio Minisini mount 4x1 65 mm/64 Model 1939 on a Model 1939 mount 8x6 20 mm/70 Scotti Model 1941 on a sextuple mount Maximum speed: 26 kts. Italian aircraft carrier Airone: Spoiler The project of completion as an aircraft carrier, one of the battleships of the type littorio - Impero. The aircraft carrier had to be large enough and have serious air defense. Spoiler Displacement: 38400 t Deck: 19 mm Armor belt: 184 mm Overall length: 240 m Hangar: 57 aircraft Secondary Armament: 4х2 152 mm/55 Model 1934 on a Model 1934 mount 10х1 90 mm/50 Model 1939 in a turret AA defense: 10х1 90 mm/50 Model 1939 in a turret 4x2 65 mm/64 Model 1939 on a Model 1939 mount 2х4 37 mm/54 Breda Model 1939 on a quadruple mount 8x6 20 mm/70 Scotti Model 1941 on a sextuple mount Maximum speed: 30 kts. Italian aircraft carrier Аvvoltoio: Spoiler When I was looking for ships for the Italian aircraft carrier development branch, I found that the option of rebuilding the large laner Rex into an aircraft carrier was considered, since it was quite large in size, but it was also the object of serious propaganda, which is why the liner was chosen for restructuring Roma (Aquila). Spoiler Displacement: 48900 t Deck: 19 mm Armor belt: 19 mm Overall length: 270 m Hangar: 76 aircraft Secondary Armament: 12х2 120 mm/50 Ansaldo model 1940 in a turret AA defense: 12х2 120 mm/50 Ansaldo model 1940 in a turret 6x2 65 mm/64 Model 1939 on a Model 1939 mount 8х4 37 mm/54 Breda Model 1939 on a quadruple mount 25x6 20 mm/70 Scotti Model 1941 on a sextuple mount Maximum speed: 33,7 kts. Italian aircraft carrier Gufo: Spoiler After heavy damage to the heavy cruiser Bolzano, a project was proposed to rebuild it into a hydro-aircraft carrier, but I considered the option of further development into an aircraft carrier. Spoiler Displacement: 13600 t Deck: 13 mm Armor belt: 75 mm Overall length: 194,6 m Hangar: 36 aircraft Secondary Armament: 8x2 100 mm/47 Model 1924/27/28 on a Eugenio Minisini mount AA defense: 8x2 100 mm/47 Model 1924/27/28 on a Eugenio Minisini mount 6x2 65 mm/64 Model 1939 on a Model 1939 mount 8х4 37 mm/54 Breda Model 1939 on a quadruple mount 25x6 20 mm/70 Scotti Model 1941 on a sextuple mount Maximum speed: 33,7 kts. Italian aircraft carrier Nibbio: Spoiler One of the options for the Bonfigletti project, which was quite large. During pre-occlusion, Bonfligletti pushed off American Lexingtons. Spoiler Displacement: 38430 t Deck: 19 mm Armor belt: 80 mm Overall length: 240 m Hangar: 56 aircraft Secondary Armament: 4х2 135 mm/45 Model 1938 on a Model 1938 mount 12х1 90 mm/50 Model 1939 in a turret AA defense: 12х1 90 mm/50 Model 1939 in a turret 6х4 37 mm/54 Breda Model 1939 on a quadruple mount 18x6 20 mm/70 Scotti Model 1941 on a sextuple mount Maximum speed: 33,7 kts. American battleship Charlotte: Spoiler Sketch design of a battle cruiser. One of a series of preliminary designs prepared in response to Chief Designer David Taylor's instruction to his design staff dated April 9, 1918, to prepare designs combining the qualities of a battleship and a battlecruiser in a new type of ship. This drawing D was prepared by Royal Navy designer Stanley Goodall in parallel with James Bates' preliminary drawing D of the fast battleship design, but using British design practice. During the war, Goodall was sent to the United States on an exchange. Ships of such a high-speed battleship type were not built at that time. When drawing this project, I naturally adhered to the project, however, like Vermont, Minnesota and Kansas, I carried out modernization with completion of superstructures Spoiler Displacement: 55800 t Deck: 27 mm Armor belt: 196 mm Overall length: 274 m Main caliber: 4х3 406 mm/56 Mk.4 in a turret Secondary Armament: 10х2 127 mm/38 Mk.12 on a Mk.32 mount AA defense: 10х2 127 mm/38 Mk.12 on a Mk.32 mount 12х4 40 mm/56 Bofors on a Mk.2 mount 24х2 20 mm Oerlikon on a Mk.24 mount Maximum speed: 35 kts. American battleship Idaho: Spoiler Sketch design of a battle cruiser. One of a series of preliminary designs prepared in response to Chief Designer David Taylor's instruction to his design staff dated April 9, 1918, to prepare designs combining the qualities of a battleship and a battlecruiser in a new type of ship. This drawing, Diagram C, was prepared by Royal Navy designer Stanley Goodall in parallel with James Bates's preliminary design for the fast battleship, but using British design practice. During the war, Goodall was sent to the United States on an exchange. Ships of such a high-speed battleship type were not built at that time. Spoiler Displacement: 53000 t Deck: 27 mm Armor belt: 178 mm Overall length: 262 m Main caliber: 4х3 406 mm/50 Mk.2 in a turret Secondary Armament: 8х2 127 mm/38 Mk.12 on a Mk.32 mount AA defense: 8х2 127 mm/38 Mk.12 on a Mk.32 mount 14х4 40 mm/56 Bofors on a Mk.2 mount 20х1 20 mm Oerlikon on a Mk.4 mount Maximum speed: 35 kts. Pan-American battleship Brasil: Spoiler The largest and at the same time the most mysterious project is a variant of the Riauchello-class battleship. The project was only described as being fairly large and armed with 12 381mm guns. The sketch was not worked out because it was required to develop 3-gun turrets for guns of this caliber. When developing this ship, I started from the Atlantico already present in the game Spoiler Displacement: 65807 t Deck: 32 mm Armor belt: 356 mm Overall length: 261,7 m Main caliber: 4х3 381 mm/45 Vickers-Armstrong Mark B on a Mk.III mount Secondary Armament: 10x2 234 mm/40 BL Mk VIII on a Mk.VII mount 8х2 127 mm/38 Mk.12 on a Mk.32 mount AA defense: 8х2 127 mm/38 Mk.12 on a Mk.32 mount 12x6 40 mm/56 OQF Mk.IX on a Mk.VI mount 8x2 40 mm/56 OQF Mk.X on a STAAG Mk.2 mount 20x2 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II on a Mk.V mount Maximum speed: 26,7 kts. Italian cruiser Audace: Spoiler Variant 1: Variant 2: After the war, the cruiser Giuseppe Garibaldi underwent a major modernization, after which the appearance of the ship changed dramatically. I decided to see what if this cruiser had been upgraded not into a missile, but into an air defense cruiser, based on the design of the cruisers Dido and Atlanta Spoiler Displacement: 8790 t Deck: 16 mm Armor belt: 70 mm Overall length: 197,3 m Main caliber: Variant 1: 5х2 135 mm/45 Model 1938 on a OTO/Ansaldo Model 1957 mount Variant 2: 6х2 135 mm/45 Model 1938 on a OTO/Ansaldo Model 1957 mount AA defense: Variant 1: 5х2 135 mm/45 Model 1938 on a OTO/Ansaldo Model 1957 mount 8x1 76,2 mm/62 M.M.I in single mount Variant 2: 6х2 135 mm/45 Model 1938 on a OTO/Ansaldo Model 1957 mount 13x1 76,2 mm/62 M.M.I in single mount Maximum speed: 37 kts. European cruiser Kållandsö: Spoiler Further development of cruisers of the Tre Kronor type, distinguished by serious anti-aircraft weapons. However, the Swedish shipyards would not allow such a large ship to be built. Spoiler Displacement: 13848 t Deck: 25 mm Armor belt: 75 mm Overall length: 184 m Main caliber: 4х3 152 mm/53 Model 1942 in a turret AA defense: 4х3 152 mm/53 Model 1942 in a turret 6х2 57 mm/60 SAK Model 1950 on a Model 1950 mount 18х1 40 mm/70 SAK-40/L70-350 on a SAK-40/L70-350 mount Maximum speed: 36,5 kts. Germany cruiser Berlin: Spoiler One of the variants of the P-type cruisers was supposed to be a light cruiser. Initially, there was 150 mm armament, but in January of the following, 1937, a timid attempt was made to bring an essentially weak ship to a reasonable combat power by arming it with 170-mm guns. were fully developed, I decided to see if all the same these weapons would be adopted Spoiler Displacement: 21450 t Deck: 25 mm Armor belt: 80 mm Overall length: 230 m Main caliber: 6x2 170 mm/57 KM44 in Dopp MPL mount Secondary Armament: 4x2 128 mm/61 KM40 in a turret AA defense: 6x2 170 mm/57 KM44 in Dopp MPL mount 4x2 128 mm/61 KM40 in a turret 10x2 55 mm/77 Gerät 58 on a twin mount 10x1 55 mm/77 Gerät 58 on a single mount 10x4 30 mm/45 Flak 103/38 on a twin mount Maximum speed: 33 kts. I hope you enjoy this post and my work. 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #2 Posted January 6 Some do, some don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #3 Posted January 6 10 minutes ago, TheKaramelka said: aircraft carrier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #4 Posted January 6 1 minute ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said: Well, carriers... but what about the non-contaminated ones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #5 Posted January 6 3 minutes ago, Karasu_Browarszky said: Well, carriers... but what about the non-contaminated ones? They carry the taint. Purge the unclean, FOR THE EMPEROR! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #6 Posted January 6 54 minutes ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said: They carry the taint. Purge the unclean, FOR THE EMPEROR! FOR THE EMPEROR! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] black_falcon120 Beta Tester 1,693 posts 4,658 battles Report post #7 Posted January 6 I mean, for the carriers, what tier will they be in and what will their planes' gimmick be? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CSOL] TheKaramelka Players 241 posts 3,747 battles Report post #8 Posted January 6 5 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said: I mean, for the carriers, what tier will they be in and what will their planes' gimmick be? I had about 3 posts about French aircraft carriers, and 1 post about Italian: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #9 Posted January 6 35 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said: I mean, for the carriers, what tier will they be in and what will their planes' gimmick be? I'd love to know if anyone has or plays Aquila, and whether that's a viable plan for an Italian CV line. I have my thoughts about a French one (based on owning Bearn) which I won't repeat as they're on one of the previous threads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CSOL] TheKaramelka Players 241 posts 3,747 battles Report post #10 Posted January 6 1 minute ago, invicta2012 said: I'd love to know if anyone has or plays Aquila, and whether that's a viable plan for an Italian CV line. I have my thoughts about a French one (based on owning Bearn) which I won't repeat as they're on one of the previous threads. I'm also interested in Aquila, I would like to rework the assumption on Italian aircraft carriers, as well as rework some ships outwardly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #11 Posted January 6 4 minutes ago, TheKaramelka said: I'm also interested in Aquila, I would like to rework the assumption on Italian aircraft carriers, as well as rework some ships outwardly Ditto, but 11K doubloons is not a small amount to drop on an experiment. I do have a spare coupon or two though.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites