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Here I will not make a suggestion for the branches. Here I want to show what ships I drew, starting from projects, references, or just "what if" (as developers) and created some ships. I hope you will like it:

French aircraft carrier Pégoud:

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A few days ago, you could already watch it: the project and what if, the creation of an aircraft carrier based on the hull of the Alsace class battleship project after the war, since the French after the war very much wanted aircraft carriers and wanted to get them in any way.

Tactical and technical characteristics:

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Displacement: 40600 t

Deck: 105 mm

Armor belt: 105 mm

Overall length: 268 m

Hangar: 76 aircraft

Secondary Armament:

12х2 127 mm/54 Mle 1948 on an Mle 1948 mount

AA defense:

12х2 127 mm/54 Mle 1948 on an Mle 1948 mount

12х2 57 mm/60 Mle 1951 on an ACAD Mle 1948 mount

Maximum speed: 34,3 kts.

 

French aircraft carrier Ile-de-France:

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As in the case of the previous one, a post-war project. However, he has the right to live and is quite real. The fact is that the battleship Strasbourg was really seriously considered for restructuring into a light aircraft carrier, but due to the high cost, the plan was not implemented.

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Displacement: 29700 t

Deck: 30 mm

Armor belt: 100 mm

Overall length: 215,1 m

Hangar: 36 aircraft

Secondary Armament:

2х4 130 mm/45 Mle 1932 on an Mle 1932 mount

2х2 130 mm/45 Mle 1932 on an Mle 1932 mount

AA defense:

2х4 130 mm/45 Mle 1932 on an Mle 1932 mount

2х2 130 mm/45 Mle 1932 on an Mle 1932 mount

12х4 40 mm Bofors on a Mk.2 mount

36х1 20 mm Oerlikon on a Mk.2 mount

Maximum speed: 32,5 kts.

 

French aircraft carrier France:

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You could also watch it: this is my implementation of the conversion of the hull of the battleship Jean Bart into an aircraft carrier. Like Strusburg, Jean Bart was considered as an aircraft carrier conversion. However, I decided to reconsider my restructuring of the United States, with its weapons, if France decided to rebuild the battleship at its own facilities, and arming it with its weapons of the 50s.

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Displacement: 33900 t

Deck: 105 mm

Armor belt: 152 mm

Overall length: 247,8 m

Hangar: 56 aircraft

Secondary Armament:

12х2 100 mm/55 Mle 1945 on a CAD Mle 1953 mount

AA defense:

12х2 100 mm/55 Mle 1945 on a CAD Mle 1953 mount

12х2 57 mm/60 Mle 1951 on an ACAD Mle 1948 mount

Maximum speed: 34 kts.

 

French aircraft carrier Commandant Teste:

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Just like the previous three aircraft carriers, Commandant Teste was considered for restructuring into an escort aircraft carrier (like the Bogue, Casablanca and others that had already gone through the war).

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Displacement: 11900 t

Deck: 13 mm

Armor belt: 30 mm

Overall length: 16m

Hangar: 30 aircraft

Secondary Armament:

4х2 100 mm/45 Mle 1933 on an Mle 1937 mount

AA defense:

4х2 100 mm/45 Mle 1933 on an Mle 1937 mount

6х2 40 mm Bofors on a Mk.1 mount

6х2 20 mm Oerlikon on a Mk.24 mount

Maximum speed: 20,5 kts.

 

French aircraft carrier Roubaix:

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The PA31 project, which was a further development of the PA28 Clemenceau project. For this project, there were only mentions and no more, I decided to design an aircraft carrier based on the American and British schools of shipbuilding.

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Displacement: 39700 t

Deck: 19 mm

Armor belt: 75 mm

Overall length: 230 m

Hangar: 76 aircraft

Secondary Armament:

8х2 127 mm/54 Mle 1948 on an Mle 1948 mount

AA defense:

8х2 127 mm/54 Mle 1948 on an Mle 1948 mount

12х2 57 mm/60 Mle 1951 on an ACAD Mle 1948 mount

Maximum speed: 35,5 kts.

 

Italian aircraft carrier Falco:
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A light aircraft carrier project based on the Zara-class heavy cruisers. This aircraft carrier was designed by the same person who designed the cruisers Zara and Bolzano.

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Displacement: 17000 t

Deck: 13 mm

Armor belt: 75 mm

Overall length: 200 m

Hangar: 30 aircraft

Secondary Armament:

8x2 100 mm/47 Model 1924/27/28 on a Eugenio Minisini mount

AA defense:

8x2 100 mm/47 Model 1924/27/28 on a Eugenio Minisini mount

4x1 65 mm/64 Model 1939 on a Model 1939 mount

8x6 20 mm/70 Scotti Model 1941 on a sextuple mount

Maximum speed: 26 kts.

 

Italian aircraft carrier Airone:

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The project of completion as an aircraft carrier, one of the battleships of the type littorio - Impero. The aircraft carrier had to be large enough and have serious air defense.

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Displacement: 38400 t

Deck: 19 mm

Armor belt: 184 mm

Overall length: 240 m

Hangar: 57 aircraft

Secondary Armament:

4х2 152 mm/55 Model 1934 on a Model 1934 mount

10х1 90 mm/50 Model 1939 in a turret

AA defense:

10х1 90 mm/50 Model 1939 in a turret

4x2 65 mm/64 Model 1939 on a Model 1939 mount

2х4 37 mm/54 Breda Model 1939 on a quadruple mount

8x6 20 mm/70 Scotti Model 1941 on a sextuple mount

Maximum speed: 30 kts.

 

Italian aircraft carrier Аvvoltoio:

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When I was looking for ships for the Italian aircraft carrier development branch, I found that the option of rebuilding the large laner Rex into an aircraft carrier was considered, since it was quite large in size, but it was also the object of serious propaganda, which is why the liner was chosen for restructuring Roma (Aquila).

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Displacement: 48900 t

Deck: 19 mm

Armor belt: 19 mm

Overall length: 270 m

Hangar: 76 aircraft

Secondary Armament:

12х2 120 mm/50 Ansaldo model 1940 in a turret

AA defense:

12х2 120 mm/50 Ansaldo model 1940 in a turret

6x2 65 mm/64 Model 1939 on a Model 1939 mount

8х4 37 mm/54 Breda Model 1939 on a quadruple mount

25x6 20 mm/70 Scotti Model 1941 on a sextuple mount

Maximum speed: 33,7 kts.

 

Italian aircraft carrier Gufo:

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After heavy damage to the heavy cruiser Bolzano, a project was proposed to rebuild it into a hydro-aircraft carrier, but I considered the option of further development into an aircraft carrier.

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Displacement: 13600 t

Deck: 13 mm

Armor belt: 75 mm

Overall length: 194,6 m

Hangar: 36 aircraft

Secondary Armament:

8x2 100 mm/47 Model 1924/27/28 on a Eugenio Minisini mount

AA defense:

8x2 100 mm/47 Model 1924/27/28 on a Eugenio Minisini mount

6x2 65 mm/64 Model 1939 on a Model 1939 mount

8х4 37 mm/54 Breda Model 1939 on a quadruple mount

25x6 20 mm/70 Scotti Model 1941 on a sextuple mount

Maximum speed: 33,7 kts.

 

Italian aircraft carrier Nibbio:

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One of the options for the Bonfigletti project, which was quite large. During pre-occlusion, Bonfligletti pushed off American Lexingtons.

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Displacement: 38430 t

Deck: 19 mm

Armor belt: 80 mm

Overall length: 240 m

Hangar: 56 aircraft

Secondary Armament:

4х2 135 mm/45 Model 1938 on a Model 1938 mount

12х1 90 mm/50 Model 1939 in a turret

AA defense:

12х1 90 mm/50 Model 1939 in a turret

6х4 37 mm/54 Breda Model 1939 on a quadruple mount

18x6 20 mm/70 Scotti Model 1941 on a sextuple mount

Maximum speed: 33,7 kts.

 

American battleship Charlotte:

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Sketch design of a battle cruiser. One of a series of preliminary designs prepared in response to Chief Designer David Taylor's instruction to his design staff dated April 9, 1918, to prepare designs combining the qualities of a battleship and a battlecruiser in a new type of ship. This drawing D was prepared by Royal Navy designer Stanley Goodall in parallel with James Bates' preliminary drawing D of the fast battleship design, but using British design practice. During the war, Goodall was sent to the United States on an exchange. Ships of such a high-speed battleship type were not built at that time.

When drawing this project, I naturally adhered to the project, however, like Vermont, Minnesota and Kansas, I carried out modernization with completion of superstructures

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Displacement: 55800 t

Deck: 27 mm

Armor belt: 196 mm

Overall length: 274 m

Main caliber:

4х3 406 mm/56 Mk.4 in a turret

Secondary Armament:

10х2 127 mm/38 Mk.12 on a Mk.32 mount

AA defense:

10х2 127 mm/38 Mk.12 on a Mk.32 mount

12х4 40 mm/56 Bofors on a Mk.2 mount

24х2 20 mm Oerlikon on a Mk.24 mount

Maximum speed: 35 kts.

 

American battleship Idaho:

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Sketch design of a battle cruiser. One of a series of preliminary designs prepared in response to Chief Designer David Taylor's instruction to his design staff dated April 9, 1918, to prepare designs combining the qualities of a battleship and a battlecruiser in a new type of ship. This drawing, Diagram C, was prepared by Royal Navy designer Stanley Goodall in parallel with James Bates's preliminary design for the fast battleship, but using British design practice. During the war, Goodall was sent to the United States on an exchange. Ships of such a high-speed battleship type were not built at that time.

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Displacement: 53000 t

Deck: 27 mm

Armor belt: 178 mm

Overall length: 262 m

Main caliber:

4х3 406 mm/50 Mk.2 in a turret

Secondary Armament:

8х2 127 mm/38 Mk.12 on a Mk.32 mount

AA defense:

8х2 127 mm/38 Mk.12 on a Mk.32 mount

14х4 40 mm/56 Bofors on a Mk.2 mount

20х1 20 mm Oerlikon on a Mk.4 mount

Maximum speed: 35 kts.

 

Pan-American battleship Brasil:

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The largest and at the same time the most mysterious project is a variant of the Riauchello-class battleship. The project was only described as being fairly large and armed with 12 381mm guns. The sketch was not worked out because it was required to develop 3-gun turrets for guns of this caliber.
When developing this ship, I started from the Atlantico already present in the game

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Displacement: 65807 t

Deck: 32 mm

Armor belt: 356 mm

Overall length: 261,7 m

Main caliber:

4х3 381 mm/45 Vickers-Armstrong Mark B on a Mk.III mount

Secondary Armament:

10x2 234 mm/40 BL Mk VIII on a Mk.VII mount

8х2 127 mm/38 Mk.12 on a Mk.32 mount

AA defense:

8х2 127 mm/38 Mk.12 on a Mk.32 mount

12x6 40 mm/56 OQF Mk.IX on a Mk.VI mount

8x2 40 mm/56 OQF Mk.X on a STAAG Mk.2 mount

20x2 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II on a Mk.V mount

Maximum speed: 26,7 kts.

 

Italian cruiser Audace:

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Variant 1:

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Variant 2:

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After the war, the cruiser Giuseppe Garibaldi underwent a major modernization, after which the appearance of the ship changed dramatically. I decided to see what if this cruiser had been upgraded not into a missile, but into an air defense cruiser, based on the design of the cruisers Dido and Atlanta

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Displacement: 8790 t

Deck: 16 mm

Armor belt: 70 mm

Overall length: 197,3 m

Main caliber:

Variant 1: 5х2 135 mm/45 Model 1938 on a OTO/Ansaldo Model 1957 mount

Variant 2: 6х2 135 mm/45 Model 1938 on a OTO/Ansaldo Model 1957 mount

AA defense:

Variant 1: 5х2 135 mm/45 Model 1938 on a OTO/Ansaldo Model 1957 mount

8x1 76,2 mm/62 M.M.I in single mount

Variant 2: 6х2 135 mm/45 Model 1938 on a OTO/Ansaldo Model 1957 mount

13x1 76,2 mm/62 M.M.I in single mount

Maximum speed: 37 kts.

 

European cruiser Kållandsö:

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Further development of cruisers of the Tre Kronor type, distinguished by serious anti-aircraft weapons. However, the Swedish shipyards would not allow such a large ship to be built.

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Displacement: 13848 t

Deck: 25 mm

Armor belt: 75 mm

Overall length: 184 m

Main caliber:

4х3 152 mm/53 Model 1942 in a turret

AA defense:

4х3 152 mm/53 Model 1942 in a turret

6х2 57 mm/60 SAK Model 1950 on a Model 1950 mount

18х1 40 mm/70 SAK-40/L70-350 on a SAK-40/L70-350 mount

Maximum speed: 36,5 kts.

 

Germany cruiser Berlin:

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One of the variants of the P-type cruisers was supposed to be a light cruiser. Initially, there was 150 mm armament, but in January of the following, 1937, a timid attempt was made to bring an essentially weak ship to a reasonable combat power by arming it with 170-mm guns. were fully developed, I decided to see if all the same these weapons would be adopted

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Displacement: 21450 t

Deck: 25 mm

Armor belt: 80 mm

Overall length: 230 m

Main caliber:

6x2 170 mm/57 KM44 in Dopp MPL mount

Secondary Armament:

4x2 128 mm/61 KM40 in a turret

AA defense:

6x2 170 mm/57 KM44 in Dopp MPL mount

4x2 128 mm/61 KM40 in a turret

10x2 55 mm/77 Gerät 58 on a twin mount

10x1 55 mm/77 Gerät 58 on a single mount

10x4 30 mm/45 Flak 103/38 on a twin mount

Maximum speed: 33 kts.

 

I hope you enjoy this post and my work.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said:

 

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Well, carriers... but what about the non-contaminated ones?

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54 minutes ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said:

They carry the taint. Purge the unclean, FOR THE EMPEROR!

 

FOR THE EMPEROR! :Smile_izmena:

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5 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said:

I mean, for the carriers, what tier will they be in and what will their planes' gimmick be?

I had about 3 posts about French aircraft carriers, and 1 post about Italian:

 

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35 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said:

I mean, for the carriers, what tier will they be in and what will their planes' gimmick be?

I'd love to know if anyone has or plays Aquila, and whether that's a viable plan for an Italian CV line.

 

I have my thoughts about a French one (based on owning Bearn) which I won't repeat as they're on one of the previous threads.

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1 minute ago, invicta2012 said:

I'd love to know if anyone has or plays Aquila, and whether that's a viable plan for an Italian CV line.

 

I have my thoughts about a French one (based on owning Bearn) which I won't repeat as they're on one of the previous threads.

I'm also interested in Aquila, I would like to rework the assumption on Italian aircraft carriers, as well as rework some ships outwardly

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4 minutes ago, TheKaramelka said:

I'm also interested in Aquila, I would like to rework the assumption on Italian aircraft carriers, as well as rework some ships outwardly

Ditto, but 11K doubloons is not a small amount to drop on an experiment. I do have a spare coupon or two though....

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