British Heavy Cruisers and How To Make Them Better?

[FloatingTarget]

14 hours ago, _Keiban_ said:

Ah, back to square 1. Ship is trash. Nothing learned, 0 reflection.

 

Can't wait that you play those and see the next thread how crap they are.

 

Sorry, but you don't know my circumstances.

 

Is there user error involved? Of course there is, I never claimed to be a great player or even good for that matter. But I try to learn, hence why I ask for help and advice.

 

With DDs and Light Cruisers I have watched videos gone through many forum posts and experimented with them to find a way to play that works. They have their issues but I am getting better with them as they do have their strengths. British Heavy Cruisers are a different matter.

 

If it was only me having an issue then I would agree it would strictly be a me issue. But I'm not the only one not too fond of these ships. You just have to watch WoW Introduction to them to see how divisive they were and still are. They are rarely played, people favour other Heavy Cruisers over them because other Heavy Cruisers of equal tier can do what they do but better.

 

I simply see too many cons to make their pros worth it, they turn like a battleship and are about as fast as one. Their guns are short range and floaty, they are citadel magnets and have a large reload time.

 

I have tried using different playstyles to try and help this. As a medium range support ship (like Wargaming wants) it gets focused down by BBs and lacks the reload time to help with enemy cruisers and especially DDs and when things go bad it's very difficult to get away as you will be outrun. It's guns are also floaty and the slow reload makes it troublesome to hit anything at a distance, that and HE to the superstructure which is the main thing you will be hitting at range does not dish out much damage for the reload time you have.

 

As a duelling anti cruiser ship, well other cruisers will destroy it, they will angle and spam you to death whilst you have to wait a long time to fire for limited damage.

 

As a DD hunter, well that's a no brainer...

 

Perhaps I am harsh with my words, but when you are on a losing streak and struggling to make any meaningful impact on a game, yes due to skill but also the severe limitations of the ship you are playing, it gets frustrating. Especially when you feel you have tried every tactic and way to play that people have suggested and it does not work.

[Margin_Walker]

It's not a weak ship. It's right up there in third on average damage and above average on w/r

 

It's a bit boring, but that's it. 

 

If you don't get on with it, cool. Play something else and don't expend so much energy moaning about it. 

[FloatingTarget]

13 minutes ago, Margin_Walker said:

It's not a weak ship. It's right up there in third on average damage and above average on w/r

 

It's a bit boring, but that's it. 

 

If you don't get on with it, cool. Play something else and don't expend so much energy moaning about it. 

 

So any criticism is moaning? Got it.

[Itwastuesday]

British CA aren't worse than other useless CA.

[arttuperkunas]

3 hours ago, FloatingTarget said:

 

So any criticism is moaning? Got it.

No just your criticism, the way in which it is phrased and how repetitive it is.

[_Keiban_]

Vor 5 Stunden, FloatingTarget sagte:

But I try to learn, hence why I ask for help and advice.

See, that's the problem. You actually aren't asking for help and advice. You come to the forum and open a thread to say "Ship X is trash, WG plz make it better".

I (and certainly others too) have the impression that you just create these threads to find some people that say "yeah, X is weak", so you can say to yourself "see, others agree, so it's not my fault, the ship is weak!".

 

 

Vor 5 Stunden, FloatingTarget sagte:

With DDs and Light Cruisers I have watched videos gone through many forum posts and experimented with them to find a way to play that works. They have their issues but I am getting better with them as they do have their strengths. British Heavy Cruisers are a different matter.

They aren't a different matter at all, they have their strengths too. They are among the tankiest cruisers, very good firestarters and solid HE DPM with very high Pen.

 

Vor 5 Stunden, FloatingTarget sagte:

If it was only me having an issue then I would agree it would strictly be a me issue. But I'm not the only one not too fond of these ships. You just have to watch WoW Introduction to them to see how divisive they were and still are. They are rarely played, people favour other Heavy Cruisers over them because other Heavy Cruisers of equal tier can do what they do but better.

Please stay away from WG Videos/Shipdescriptions etc. They are often pure fantasy, misleading and often plain wrong. Like the recommendation in the Heavy Cruiser Vid to skill Demo Expert and IFHE...

Goliath has one job, and that is to kite away in mid to long range and it does that pretty good. Mostly in late game you can also close the distance if the situation requires and allows it.

 

I (accidentally) clicked into Ranked with Goliath and did a match where you can see that quite well.

 

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