There is nothing wrong with Aegis ...

[lup3s]

4 hours ago, SurfaceFish said:

I like to see the % of random team getting 5 stars in this operation. I have not got it yet, as there is either no time or not enough teammates left to take out all 3 red BB at the end. 

 

In the past you can always go up north to get their boardside, but with the current HE spamming IJN CL in the 2nd group, it is not possible.

 

@DFens_666 and I managed to get multiple 5* wins in Aegis ... though that usually involves us breaking our back carrying the "team". 

 

Iirc I did get a couple of 5* when playing solo, but that usually involved either luck (detonating the Amagi) or at least one other competent player.

 

:edit:

Yesterday I had 3 Aegis; lost one with Rochester, and had two 4* with Le Terrible and Pobeda.

I also had 2 Narai and lost both; I dislike getting Narai more than Aegis tbh - and "there is nothing wrong with Narai", it's just that most players seem braindead in Ops.

 

[Ronchabale]

2 hours ago, lup3s said:

 

 

I also had 2 Narai and lost both; I dislike getting Narai more than Aegis tbh - and "there is nothing wrong with Narai", it's just that most players seem braindead in Ops.

 

How hard can it be..

1 cruiser goes for transports and one cruiser for carrier while battleships deal with Missouri then all pile in for the killfest, sadly this fails on a regular basis

Very frustrating..

[ARE_YOU_HUMAN]

focused he barrage from jap cruisers and dds are the biggest problem. WG could balance Kitakaze just by looking at its op performance. 

[DrPhibes]

What's wrong with Aegis these days is that everyone else just hides behind the first island in fear of getting focused by the 2nd wave Myoko's.

[lup3s]

17 hours ago, SurfaceFish said:

I like to see the % of random team getting 5 stars in this operation. I have not got it yet, as there is either no time or not enough teammates left to take out all 3 red BB at the end. 

 

In the past you can always go up north to get their boardside, but with the current HE spamming IJN CL in the 2nd group, it is not possible.

 

Got another 5* tonight; second Aegis I had, first one was a 4* (couldn't sink Amagi in time).

 

Spoiler

 

[Seraphice]

Hey everyone

We're aware of the issues with bots in Aegis and are looking into the issue.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

[The_Last_Shatterdome]

11 horas antes, Seraphice dijo:

Hey everyone

We're aware of the issues with bots in Aegis and are looking into the issue.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

Today at 8 PM CET again... random operations, temporarily stop offering Aegis

[Onsterfelijke]

Selected Aegis these last week but not much as my friends were not avaiable a lot.

We tried the tier 6-7 no problems when we played 1 game but the with higher tiers have certain strange paths. (probaly the detection of the higher tier ships)

[RenamedUser_92906789]

On 1/5/2023 at 10:32 PM, lup3s said:

You guys are getting Aegis while I tried for an entire evening and didn't get it once

 

 

[lup3s]

4 minutes ago, RenamedUser_92906789 said:

 

 

 

You got a 5* ? heresy 

 

And ofc Narai is a loss .. I played a dozen Ops yesterday and lost only one : Narai 

[RenamedUser_92906789]

14 minutes ago, lup3s said:

 

You got a 5* ? heresy 

 

And ofc Narai is a loss .. I played a dozen Ops yesterday and lost only one : Narai 

 

suiciders

[Seraphice]

1 hour ago, RenamedUser_92906789 said:

 

 

Looks like it still can be done :D

 

 

[RenamedUser_92906789]

8 hours ago, Seraphice said:

Looks like it still can be done :D

 

 

 

First time after the rework. And you can check how many OPS games I have played since then ;) A lot.

I was blessed by good players. My dmg was around 150k ...way less than average.

 

BUT .. the MAJORITY of games look like this:

 

And mark my work @Seraphice ... in some time (months) you (WG) will figure out that I was right.

Your stats will show that Aegis has the lowest WR ratio among all operations ... and you will not admit that I was right :)

 

Have seen it before multiple times ... WG goes over same stages:

- denial

- ignore (in same cases for years under the "monitoring" expanation)

- then one patch you admit a problem and fix / adjust 

 

You know why I bother? Because OPS have (had) great potential.

Its just SAD that your developers / management doesn't see that.

I am done with PVP in your game ... you take away PVE or leave them as they are ... I will probably leave the game.... simple as that ... and I know that I am not alone.

 

Best regards.

[Seraphice]

14 hours ago, RenamedUser_92906789 said:

 

First time after the rework. And you can check how many OPS games I have played since then ;) A lot.

I was blessed by good players. My dmg was around 150k ...way less than average.

 

BUT .. the MAJORITY of games look like this:

 

And mark my work @Seraphice ... in some time (months) you (WG) will figure out that I was right.

Your stats will show that Aegis has the lowest WR ratio among all operations ... and you will not admit that I was right :)

 

Have seen it before multiple times ... WG goes over same stages:

- denial

- ignore (in same cases for years under the "monitoring" expanation)

- then one patch you admit a problem and fix / adjust 

 

You know why I bother? Because OPS have (had) great potential.

Its just SAD that your developers / management doesn't see that.

I am done with PVP in your game ... you take away PVE or leave them as they are ... I will probably leave the game.... simple as that ... and I know that I am not alone.

 

Best regards.

I've not said that there are no issues with Aegis.
We're looking into Aegis (and operations as a whole) and seeing if any changes need to be made. If we decide on anything, you'll hear about it.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

[Fediuld]

On 1/5/2023 at 11:18 PM, Kruzenstern said:

No, what I am talking about is something they introduced very recently, where the bots from the first wave drive straight east instead of southeast, thus being very far away, and the second wave doing more or less the same, staying very far north. This results in a vertiable cluster**** of enemy ships in the middle of the map that just blaps everyone approaching. This seems to be some sort of bug, since after we got this one today, the next Aegis was normal. But something is up, also with Newport, but there it is not making it unwinnable.

 

This is what I mean: (image taken from Captain_82 in a different thread, I failed to make a screenshot in my annoyance when that happend to me)

 

Here is a better view too from carrier perspective. 
You cannot do a single drop without losing the whole squadron. And T8 carriers barely have 2 full squadrons. After that have to wait 12 minutes to get the airplanes back. 

 

[Seraphice]

We'll be taking steps to reduce the complexity of this operation in 12.0

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

[RenamedUser_92906789]

Is this the hard mode being tested?

 

* first and second wave, then came 4 more with 4th wave

 

[lup3s]

On 1/12/2023 at 1:30 PM, Seraphice said:

We'll be taking steps to reduce the complexity of this operation in 12.0

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

 

What do you mean by this ?

 

Are you 

- making the AI behaviour simpler ?

- making the Operation itself simpler ?

 

(I'm not a fan of the latter tbh ... players should just git gud)

[lup3s]

57 minutes ago, RenamedUser_92906789 said:

Is this the hard mode being tested?

 

* first and second wave, then came 4 more with 4th wave

 

 

Care to elaborate ?

 

All I see is your team taking that idiotic G-route; so you can claim this is "hard mode", caused by the average player^TM.

 

 

:edit:

I had Aegis twice yesterday, 5* victory on both of them. Once with Pobeda, once with Cheshire.

[lup3s]

On 1/11/2023 at 11:03 AM, Fediuld said:

Here is a better view too from carrier perspective. 
You cannot do a single drop without losing the whole squadron. And T8 carriers barely have 2 full squadrons. After that have to wait 12 minutes to get the airplanes back.

 

Have you tried pre-dropping ?

[Fediuld]

14 hours ago, lup3s said:

 

Have you tried pre-dropping ?

Only certain carriers (Soviet and some British) can do it and only the torps. Not the bombs neither the rockets. 

 

And the German carriers are relying on the AP bombs and AP rockets to do damage by clocking citadels. 

[lup3s]

2 hours ago, Fediuld said:

Only certain carriers (Soviet and some British) can do it and only the torps. Not the bombs neither the rockets. 

 

And the German carriers are relying on the AP bombs and AP rockets to do damage by clocking citadels. 

 

If you're trying to pre-drop with with Russian CVs, you're doing something wrong.

You can pre-drop with every (non-Russian) squadron.

 

It will save planes when going into multiple ships' AA.

[RenamedUser_92906789]

I played one Aegis game since the patch.

 

Apparently the first and second wave was down tiered.

It was composed of T6 and T7 ships (similar to before), while the north waves remain unchanged (Nagatos, Amagi, Kitakaze ...)

As for the penalty BBs, I have no idea.

 

Besides this change I would like to see how do bots behave.

- do they still beach and stay there

- does final wave on Amagi's still rush down the border and kills transports

- does the 3 BB penalty wave still rush down the middle or do they stay north

 

This are vital questions in case team collapses early.

If the bots still rush down south it is pointless to continue playing (in case most of the team is dead).