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1 hour ago, MixuS said:

Got Canarias the last time, so now it's time for Dido. Canarias is a decent ship, hampered a bit by AP-only guns. Really hard to deal damage occasionally, especially when uptiered.

Always seemed a bit odd to me that, out of the two, the RN CL (whose tech tree is AP only) got HE shells. :cap_hmm:

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1 hour ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

Always seemed a bit odd to me that, out of the two, the RN CL (whose tech tree is AP only) got HE shells. :cap_hmm:

Yeah and they're pretty good too. I think they are the same as the T6DD. 
The thing will burn the socks of anything, and it is a real DD killer.

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8 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Yeah and they're pretty good too. I think they are the same as the T6DD. 
The thing will burn the socks of anything, and it is a real DD killer.

Dido shells? Her ammo is functionally identical to Russian 130mm but with slightly worse ballistics and WAY slower reload. And she isn't "socks burner" nor "DD killer", actually she's worse than any other tier 6 CL AND she is limited in HE pen due to her destroyer grade caliber, while being extremely vulnerable.

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Well, went for Canarias last time so I guess it's Dido this time, even if it's by default.

 

Not exactly been over impressed with her sister the Rahmat after all...

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Not just Dido is pretty bad, imho Canarias blows too . :(

 

You have AP only. Thats already a pretty heavy disadvantage, but it wouldnt be so problematic if the AP didnt suck. It got bad pen (for 203s) and bad sheet DPM, a problem which in practice is intensified by the shitty flight-times. You are basically unarmed against anything that angles, because you are also missing torpedoes. BBs are an unkillable obstacle in many situations and cruisers are usually able to dodge these shells. And if they are not, the shells often get stuck in some torp protection you didnt even know existed, because Canarias shells have a low fuse time. So you rarely citadell something. 

 

That short fuse and slightly improved pen-angles make for funny salvoes on DDs though. (6-7k salvoes, think ITA CAs). Literally the only moments of fun on a ship that otherwise feels like excruciating work (without reward). Sadly you need a spotter, so theres team dependancy as well. 

 

If you have nothing spotting, you can zip around in the back and shoot far, pretending youre doing something. Blaargh!! Its just bad & boring.

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I used to do OK with Dido in ops.

2 hours ago, Panocek said:

and WAY slower reload.

Yes, the reload could be better. Not sure why it's worse than Rahmat's.

2 hours ago, Panocek said:

Her ammo is functionally identical to Russian 130mm

 

2 hours ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Yeah and they're pretty good too.

Actually, Dido's AP isn't to be sniffed at either. I've had some surprisingly good results with it ... in PvE.

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I enjoy all three of them  (Dido, Canarias, Rahmat). The Silver ship has the edge because of her DWTs, though - very powerful on a low tier Cruiser. 

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1 hour ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

I used to do OK with Dido in ops.

Yes, the reload could be better. Not sure why it's worse than Rahmat's.

 

Actually, Dido's AP isn't to be sniffed at either. I've had some surprisingly good results with it ... in PvE.

AP pen is good by her caliber, being almost on par with 152mm guns, so there's that.

 

1 hour ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

Yes, the reload could be better. Not sure why it's worse than Rahmat's.

Saint Spreadshiet happened, can't have welfare ship thats actually not dysfunctional :cap_tea:

Sure, yeeting HE rounds, improving AP ricochet angles and cranking up reload to 6, maybe 7s would result in Minitaur that could be actually fun to play, which again, is illegal in the eyes of Saint Spreadshiet

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5 hours ago, Panocek said:

Dido shells? Her ammo is functionally identical to Russian 130mm but with slightly worse ballistics and WAY slower reload. And she isn't "socks burner" nor "DD killer", actually she's worse than any other tier 6 CL AND she is limited in HE pen due to her destroyer grade caliber, while being extremely vulnerable.

Maybe I just like stupid ships, I dunno. One of my best T6 ships anyway. 

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I have chosen Dido but with great disapoitment the ship DID NOT have the camo it was shown with in its previews.Insread it has an aufull 2 color hull/bridge camo .The bizzare is that there is no option to buy the camo in the picture WG advertised Dido.

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Vor 7 Stunden, Anthoniusii sagte:

I have chosen Dido but with great disapoitment the ship DID NOT have the camo it was shown with in its previews.Insread it has an aufull 2 color hull/bridge camo .The bizzare is that there is no option to buy the camo in the picture WG advertised Dido.

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To be fair, the pictures on the mission and showing the ships themselves in the news message are showing the camos correctly. Only the title picture up top has it wrong.

 

But yeah, I'm a bit surprised that the alternatives were not made available for a price. Still, they were part of a special event. So maybe I shouldn't be.

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I will go for the Canarias. I just read up on her and the rushed to find Bismarck survivors just after she scuttled. Apparently only found two corpses but communicated with light signals with a german submarine and the german weathership Sachsenwald as all were searching in the area.

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Can you stick a poll on this thread? 

 

Most likely I'll play neither much and certainly not in a random battle but maybe the odd ranked or comp if it features this tier as equal or top tier "just for fun". 

 

I have no other Spanish ships so for the sake of having a semi-competent commander ready it would make more sense to go with the Dido(Wow I very nearly called it a rude toy of similar spelling that would have got me chat banned :fish_cute_2:).

 

On the other hand, I have no Spanish ships so that's actually a good reason to get the Spaniard too. :cap_book:

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9 hours ago, LukkaiCH said:

To be fair, the pictures on the mission and showing the ships themselves in the news message are showing the camos correctly. Only the title picture up top has it wrong.

 

But yeah, I'm a bit surprised that the alternatives were not made available for a price. Still, they were part of a special event. So maybe I shouldn't be.

Your answer was very usefull. Since bith ships were part in an event in the past (where i chosen Canarias) it was easy to find the camo entry.

So for those like me that did not chosen Dido like me in the past in my next camo pack i will include the mediteranean camo in standard British colors .

EDIT: The bizzare in this case is that in the past event Canarias was available with BOTH of its unique camos. I do not know if it was the same for Dido though.

 

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Dido also had 2 camos when it was first given.

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Dido is just a worse Rahmat, Canarias is something different. So I would get Canarias first. Since I already did last time around though, for me it is Dido now.

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I will be getting the Canarias as on the last part of the mission now and already have Dido

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I wonder how many players went for both ships (Dido and Canarias) when they first got released. Besides myself, I know of a fellow clan member who have also both of them already. I'm using the IMHO rather good looking Canarias every now and then in Coop, more often than the Dido, as I don't fancy much taking cruisers to Randoms.

Back at the time of their first release, I did not take the firepower crate as I didn't fancy to gamble on a Forrest Sherman, so I rather took both historical ships... Well that means now a bit of credits.

 

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Just select one your find good looking and do this event next year..... or buy it with coal if you want both.

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Am 9.1.2023 um 22:58, Northern_Nightowl sagte:

I wonder how many players went for both ships (Dido and Canarias) when they first got released. Besides myself, I know of a fellow clan member who have also both of them already. I'm using the IMHO rather good looking Canarias every now and then in Coop, more often than the Dido, as I don't fancy much taking cruisers to Randoms.

Back at the time of their first release, I did not take the firepower crate as I didn't fancy to gamble on a Forrest Sherman, so I rather took both historical ships... Well that means now a bit of credits.

 

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I know I did. And it was made easier too, since WG gave out a few tokens as compensation for a slight technical issue they had, at least on EU. So with getting all possible tokens from the Personal Challenges, I had enough to get both.

 

And the Firepower containers never really looked all that enticing to me anyway. So it was an easy choice.

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On 1/5/2023 at 2:37 PM, NewHorizons_1 said:

Always seemed a bit odd to me that, out of the two, the RN CL (whose tech tree is AP only) got HE shells. :cap_hmm:

Maybe check the armament? Dido has 5.25"/50 (13.4 cm) QF Mark I and these guns had SAP, HE and anti-radar shells.

 

History bites :P

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4 minutes ago, ZygZag said:

... anti-radar shells.

Hhhm. I wonder what gimmick WG could come up with those. :cap_hmm:

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Just me venting my little first world problem here, but due to a impressive road traffic accident I won’t have internet connection restored to my home until typically the 19th which I believe is also the last day of the event. 
 

Oh well I’m sure I will live without Canaries.  

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