[AWSL] ReDiR20 Players 473 posts 4,977 battles Report post #26 Posted January 3 25 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: T4 Best overall: it's probably still Hosho but I haven't played T4 in ages so I cannot say for sure All T4 CVs are fairly comparable. T6 Best overall: Ryujo by a huge margin, for the most part T6 CVs live and die by their torps as all other armament types are lackluster and Ryujo simply has the best ones Second place probably goes to Loewenhardt but it is not available for purchase, Ark Royal is also very good but can be boring to play due to slow planes. Ranger and Furious are okayish. T8 Best overall: Enterprise, arguably the most powerful CV tier for tier by literally being a T10 CV in disguise, not available for purchase Shokaku and Lexington share second place, Chkalov comes close to that and is the best available premium, Kaga is the best for beginners and still very solid overall. T10 Best overall: tie between Hakuryu and Midway, which is more powerful depends entirely on MM (Haku is better in BB/cruiser heavy matches, Midway is better in DD heavy ones) Malta is the best premium by far, it comes very close to the top and is also the easiest to play. Nakhimov can push out big damage totals if the enemy is braindead and does not WASD but falls off quickly if the enemy has more than two braincells. Everything else is honestly not worth mentioning. Super Best overall: Sekiryu by a gigantic amount, literally just a Haku with tacticals United States in second place due to having superior damage output and more flexibility than Eagle, however can be very easily sniped as the hull is extremely fragile. Ryujo got a big torp bombers nerf recently.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #27 Posted January 3 43 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: T8 Best overall: Enterprise, arguably the most powerful CV tier for tier by literally being a T10 CV in disguise, not available for purchase No question, Enterprise is the best tier-for-tier. But would you really see its power level closer to Malta than it is to Lexington? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #28 Posted January 3 49 minutes ago, ReDiR20 said: Ryujo got a big torp bombers nerf recently.... The nerf is insignificant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #29 Posted January 3 1 hour ago, El2aZeR said: but falls off quickly if the enemy has more than two braincells That is already rare event to witness, so Nakhimov is probably still a-okay 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hirohito Players 1,717 posts 6,192 battles Report post #30 Posted January 3 11 hours ago, AtaIante said: I told you as it is. It's a skill issue. If you get hit by more than one bomb regularly by a Nakhimov while angling then you aren't angling. It is how it is. Well my experience are different, it happens often enough that get hit with one bomb when angling, and have occasionally been hit with several, though 0 hits also happen (as I stated in my original post). Granted, I'm not always angled perfectly 90 degrees, but between 70-90 degrees is what I'd reckon as usual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #31 Posted January 3 14 minutes ago, Hirohito said: Well my experience are different, it happens often enough that get hit with one bomb when angling, and have occasionally been hit with several, though 0 hits also happen (as I stated in my original post). Granted, I'm not always angled perfectly 90 degrees, but between 70-90 degrees is what I'd reckon as usual. Its pretty much a must to be perfectly angled to not get hit by multiple. 2 bombs never fall on the same spot together with Nakhi. Don't be so defensive when someone points out flaws. You didn't say in the first post that you aren't always perfectly angled. In a random match that isn't always possible anyway and a Nakhimov with a brain will attempt to drop you when you have other problems but even then its a situation you dictate not the Nakhi. This is the reason why the CV is rated low. It needs the target to misplay more so than any other CV and then he deals mediocre punishment. 2 bombs are around 5k damage. You can take that once a match. But you usually can simply dodge by perfect angling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #32 Posted January 3 2 hours ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: No question, Enterprise is the best tier-for-tier. But would you really see its power level closer to Malta than it is to Lexington? No, but the power level spectrum of T10 CVs is gigantic. I'd say if Enty were actually a T10 CV it'd be better than Auda, MvR and the like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #33 Posted January 3 8 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: No, but the power level spectrum of T10 CVs is gigantic. I'd say if Enty were actually a T10 CV it'd be better than Auda, MvR and the like. Yeah but that would probably even be the case for Kaga etc., because Auda and MvR are just utter crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] black_falcon120 Beta Tester 1,693 posts 4,658 battles Report post #34 Posted January 3 7 hours ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: No question, Enterprise is the best tier-for-tier. But would you really see its power level closer to Malta than it is to Lexington? It’s weaker than it was, it’s still strong but it’s not head and shoulders above all over CVs like it was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #35 Posted January 3 48 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said: It’s weaker than it was, it’s still strong but it’s not head and shoulders above all over CVs like it was. The rocket nerf you mean? Yeah it got less effective against DDs that actively angle against you. But it still works. TBs and DBs are still amazing and you still get the carzy good maneuverability and regen time. To me it is still the best T8 CV by far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] black_falcon120 Beta Tester 1,693 posts 4,658 battles Report post #36 Posted January 3 1 hour ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: The rocket nerf you mean? Yeah it got less effective against DDs that actively angle against you. But it still works. TBs and DBs are still amazing and you still get the carzy good maneuverability and regen time. To me it is still the best T8 CV by far. Not just that, I went afk for four months, but apparently DBs received a global nerf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #37 Posted January 3 20 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said: Not just that, I went afk for four months, but apparently DBs received a global nerf. The last nerf I am aware of is the AP alpha. But Enty still has lots of it. @El2aZeR has anything else changed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #38 Posted January 4 16 hours ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: @El2aZeR has anything else changed? No. The last time anything changed about Enty AP DBs specifically was when WG buffed their speed/HP and nerfed their regen to align their stats with Lexington DBs back at the beginning of the rework. @black_falcon120 I'm guessing you watch Mountbatten. Don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #39 Posted January 4 8 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: @black_falcon120 I'm guessing you watch Mountbatten. Don't. Ah yeah, that Boomer dude claimed Enty had been murdered and Smolensk used to have 32 or 30 mm pen with IFHE. Why is it so hard to check your facts before you make a video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #40 Posted January 4 8 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: Ah yeah, that Boomer dude claimed Enty had been murdered and Smolensk used to have 32 or 30 mm pen with IFHE. Why is it so hard to check your facts before you make a video. look at the forum. Most people don't care about facts so why go through the lengths of presenting them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] black_falcon120 Beta Tester 1,693 posts 4,658 battles Report post #41 Posted January 4 50 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: No. The last time anything changed about Enty AP DBs specifically was when WG buffed their speed/HP and nerfed their regen to align their stats with Lexington DBs back at the beginning of the rework. @black_falcon120 I'm guessing you watch Mountbatten. Don't. Ah, yes, I do watch Mountbatten… But in this specific instance, the people on the official discord told me that there was some change about the drop pattern of dive bombers which hit enty hard as it has AP? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #42 Posted January 4 6 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said: Ah, yes, I do watch Mountbatten… But in this specific instance, the people on the official discord told me that there was some change about the drop pattern of dive bombers which hit enty hard as it has AP? There is a lot of misinformation. The best guys to listen to regarding CVs is a few selective guys in this forum and above all El2aZeR 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #43 Posted January 4 5 hours ago, black_falcon120 said: But in this specific instance, the people on the official discord told me that there was some change about the drop pattern of dive bombers which hit enty hard as it has AP? Nope. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPURD] Itwastuesday Players 1,768 posts 13,575 battles Report post #44 Posted January 4 Idk what's the best if you dedicate your time to it, but Chkalol is easy and feels pretty darn filthy. Best T6 cv is obviously Bearn because you can kill the planes of 2 potato carriers with interceptors and laugh in french Share this post Link to post Share on other sites