Currently strongest cv at each tier?

[MilanSoede]

I have recently started to look into carriers and was wondering what currently the strongest/most meta cv is at each tier (supercarriers included) both on the premium and tech tree side

[RenamedUser_92906789]

Super CVs are all op.

USS, Eagle and upcoming Sekuryu.

 

Coal .. Malta is OP, Immelmann is strong.

 

Steel .. FDR is OP.

 

Premium? Kaga, Chakalov, Enterprise .. all OP.

Saipan has high skill floor, because of small air groups. Implacable has no torp bombers.

 

Tech tree?

All OP. Yes even Audacious craps on ships. You cant go wrong with any cv if you want to make miserable time for your targets. But they arre boring.

 

I will downvote you as bad, just for asking a cv question :)) 

[Fediuld]

1 hour ago, MilanSoede said:

I have recently started to look into carriers and was wondering what currently the strongest/most meta cv is at each tier (supercarriers included) both on the premium and tech tree side

Tech tree : T6/8/10 the Soviet ones. 

T8 premium : Chkalov

Supercarrier : pick any

Coal/Steel : Malta followed by Max. 

 

FDR might seem strong however doesn't play like any other CV. You will struggle to go against DDs. You can only pick alone BBs at the start of the battle. Only near the end of the battle you can sacrifice airplanes to go against clusters. And all this thanks to the 25-30 seconds preparation time between drops. God forbid you get into flak, you might lose a hell a lot of airplanes that you will never replace. 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

So many opinions but no facts so far.

 

T8 Enterprise / Shoukaku, close second being Chkalov.

T10 Haku is currently the best, followed by Midway / Malta. The rest has their gimmicks and that's about it, Consistency only happens with the first 3 names.

[Fediuld]

2 minutes ago, AtaIante said:

So many opinions but no facts so far.

 

T8 Enterprise / Shoukaku, close second being Chkalov.

T10 Haku is currently the best, followed by Midway / Malta. The rest has their gimmicks and that's about it, Consistency only happens with the first 3 names.

Tbh is each on their own. Personally I prefer the Audacious with the UU and the German carriers. I feel they are more fun.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

14 minutes ago, Fediuld said:

Tbh is each on their own. Personally I prefer the Audacious with the UU and the German carriers. I feel they are more fun.

The question is which CVs are the strongest tier for tier. Not which is the most fun. I'm also of course putting in experience from CBs when CVs were still useable there. I was the CV main of XTREM in which we reached Hurricane during those seasons. Haku was so strong it got banned, same with FDR because of its ease to use but it was quickly found that Midway replaces FDR just fine and performs better on top. Immelmann and Richthofen were not used, Auda also wasn't used. These are simple facts. The stats on wows stats page usually are misinterpreted for individual CVs.

 

Nakhimov is not comp viable because of how easy it is to dodge it.

 

[Nov_A]

42 minutes ago, MilanSoede said:

I have recently started to look into carriers and was wondering what currently the strongest/most meta cv is at each tier (supercarriers included) both on the premium and tech tree side

 

There are of course better and worse CVs, but this usually comes down to bare numbers, reliability and game impact. The most important thing when starting to look into CVs is not always the strongest option, but the most reliable/accessible one, since the strongest ones are usually the hardest to play. If you do the basics, such as positioning, spotting, target priority, dodging flak, etc. somewhat okay, you are already outperforming half the CV playerbase and benefit your team greatly.

 

T4 - Langely. Reliable armament and the strongest AA on T4. Not only good for beginners, since the Hosho nerfs it is actually the strongest T4 CV.

T6 - Ranger or Furios. They are both good choices, reliable in their damage output and do well in all situations. Löwenhardt and Ryujo outperform them in effectiveness or damage, but those are more specialized, require more skill to use or are literally not available anymore. Not good for new players. Same thing with Béarn throning the leaderboard. Ark Royal is a quirky side/upgrade if you manage planes well.

T8 - Lexington. Solid all-rounder and easy playstyle you learn from its predecessors. Enterprise is a tad better, but not available anymore. Chkalov and Shokaku have a higher performance cap, but are less reliable and/or more difficult to use. Kaga is a really good premium CV and a good choice, but less consistent in its playstyle with other CVs. Implacable and GZ work, but are just outperformed in damage or reliability.

Stay away from Saipan, Hornet, Sanzang, Parseval, Pobeda, Indomitable and Auquila. No bueno for beginners or just bad/outperformed, can work - but why would anyone.

T10 - Midway. Literally fat Lexington with better bonk. Same as on the other tiers, IJN bote Hakuryu has the higher skill cap and can outperform Midway. Malta is a solid contestor as well. Nakhimov and Audacious work, but have their own, unqiue problems or are just outperformed by the previous mentions. Stay away from Richthofen, Immelmann and FDR. The latter can work in divisions, the germans sadly get the stick.

T11 - Eagle. Absolute super no-brainer. United States requires better target choice and Sekiryu is more specialized with higher skill cap - again.

[Animalul2012]

Just read this and those reviews. Spoiler:Lexington, Midway and Enterprise are not as good as they re reputation goes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/y6rdv9/personal_opinion_how_to_malta/

 

[Pururut]

I don't like these threads as what is meta might not be compatible with how you play. I prefer consistency and that means tech tree US carriers. They are decent ships; good old fashioned squadrons, focus on reliable HE and fire damage and actually historical content. Ranger is my favorite in terms of design and ease of play. Most of the tier 5-7 ships have very poor AA. For the odd tier 8 some basic knowledge and WASD suffice. 

[Wulf_Ace]

4 hours ago, RenamedUser_92906789 said:

Super CVs are all op.

USS, Eagle and upcoming Sekuryu.

 

Coal .. Malta is OP, Immelmann is strong.

 

Steel .. FDR is OP.

 

Premium? Kaga, Chakalov, Enterprise .. all OP.

Saipan has high skill floor, because of small air groups. Implacable has no torp bombers.

 

Tech tree?

All OP. Yes even Audacious craps on ships. You cant go wrong with any cv if you want to make miserable time for your targets. But they arre boring.

 

I will downvote you as bad, just for asking a cv question :)) 

Did you even read his question

[MilanSoede]

1 minute ago, Pururut said:

I don't like these threads as what is meta might not be compatible with how you play. I prefer consistency and that means tech tree US carriers. They are decent ships; good old fashioned squadrons, focus on reliable HE and fire damage and actually historical content. Ranger is my favorite in terms of design and ease of play. Most of the tier 5-7 ships have very poor AA. For the odd tier 8 some basic knowledge and WASD suffice. 

I understand where you come from but i dont really have a playstyle with cv's yet so trying out the more meta lines is likely to give me a more enjoyable experience (as far as possible in WoWs)

[Juuzaam]

Vor 1 Stunde, Animalul2012 sagte:

Just read this and those reviews. Spoiler:Lexington, Midway and Enterprise are not as good as they re reputation goes.

The only people that dont rank the US line pretty high are players from ASIA, because they play on a different server with a different meta. To each his own. The reason, the games last longer on ASIA, nobody pushes which causes ships with high DPM or general high damage numbers to look like they would outperform our flexibel, but noticeable higher influence ships. But that is not true for us.

 

So when someone ask in the EU forum, which means he also playes on the EU server,  what kind of ships are the strongest, he should rather listen to the 2(!) Super Unicums with 70+% Winratio and an experience of each with 5k+ match on carriers that already answered instead.

 

Midway, Haku and Malta are the current peak in TierX in EU. Please change my mind.

 

 

 

[Wulf_Ace]

4 hours ago, MilanSoede said:

I have recently started to look into carriers and was wondering what currently the strongest/most meta cv is at each tier (supercarriers included) both on the premium and tech tree side

Tier 4 .... Langley

Tier 6..... Ranger but more or less they are all close in terms of strenght 

Tier 8 ,,,,,Enterprise and Kaga from premiums, and Shokaku and Pobeda from tech tree

Tier 10....Nakhimov

Super CV.... Eagle

[Hirohito]

3 hours ago, AtaIante said:

 

Nakhimov is not comp viable because of how easy it is to dodge it.

Dunno which airstrike you're thinking about here, but the skip bombers can be absolutely infuriating at times in how stupid easy they are to aim on a DD, even if RNG might say no for the actual bomb hits.
Sometimes it feels like playing against the old pre-nerf rocket planes, with the added fun of RNG where I either might be fine or lose 60% of my health.

[Sunleader]

5 hours ago, MilanSoede said:

I have recently started to look into carriers and was wondering what currently the strongest/most meta cv is at each tier (supercarriers included) both on the premium and tech tree side

 

Depends heavily on the Context.

 

Randoms ?

Ranked ?

Competetive ?

 

Strongest in Winning/Influence or Strongest in Combat Power ?

 

From the View of a Good CV Player or for a Beginner ?

 

 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

55 minutes ago, Hirohito said:

Dunno which airstrike you're thinking about here, but the skip bombers can be absolutely infuriating at times in how stupid easy they are to aim on a DD, even if RNG might say no for the actual bomb hits.
Sometimes it feels like playing against the old pre-nerf rocket planes, with the added fun of RNG where I either might be fine or lose 60% of my health.

There will never be a case where you hit 2 bombs on a DD ever with those bombers if you angle and it will be very very unlikely to even get one bomb to hit. If angling to these skipbombers is to difficult then that's a skill issue and not a Nakhi being to good issue

[Yedwy]

@OP Well all things considered the strongest overall are prob IJN line with some hard to get premiums at their heal, Chkalov is also ok but RU CVs have a slightly different taste to the rest of CVs esp the said Chkalov, that doesnt however mean its the best line for you, I know IJN is better but for instance I somehow always liked RN style of bombs better, your milege may vary

[Hirohito]

10 hours ago, AtaIante said:

There will never be a case where you hit 2 bombs on a DD ever with those bombers if you angle and it will be very very unlikely to even get one bomb to hit. If angling to these skipbombers is to difficult then that's a skill issue and not a Nakhi being to good issue

Yeah I prefer sitting broadside with my AA turned on to Nakhimov planes, that must have been it.

[SV_Kompresor]

Coming from someone that mains DDs and (manouverable) cruisers, here's my list. Keep in mind that these are the higher tier CVs that I fear the most when playing said ships, if you want to include BBs in that, then the list is slightly altered in favor of japanese (and to a lesser extent soviets).

 

Tier 8: Lexington/Chkalov followed by shokaku

Tier 10: Midway followed by hakuryu/malta

Tier 11: USS US

 

CVs I can usually not worry about (outside of late game situations):

• Anything german (aside perhaps immelman)
• Anything soviet (except for chkalov)
• Anything british (except for ark royal when in a DD and eagle)

[Yosha_AtaIante]

6 hours ago, Hirohito said:

Yeah I prefer sitting broadside with my AA turned on to Nakhimov planes, that must have been it.

Sounds like it.

[Hirohito]

1 hour ago, AtaIante said:

Sounds like it.

Sorry but if you're gonna be snarky like that, you're gonna get snarky replies back.

Try to be a little more accomodating the next time and not try to frame other people as idiots, the quality of discussion on this forum might improve then.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

7 hours ago, Hirohito said:

Sorry but if you're gonna be snarky like that, you're gonna get snarky replies back.

Try to be a little more accomodating the next time and not try to frame other people as idiots, the quality of discussion on this forum might improve then.

I told you as it is. It's a skill issue. If you get hit by more than one bomb regularly by a Nakhimov while angling then you aren't angling. It is how it is. 

[Head_has_Exploded]

I would say Langley at tier 4, (used to be Hosho but it got nerfed to only one torp, Ryujo at tier 6, possibly the Graf Zep at tier 8, after that, I never bother, far too much flak plus the rocket plane nerf killed the CV's. I know some say the kaga, but it has never worked for me as to me it used to be a tier 7 ship back in the day if I remember rightly, it has no business at all seeing tier 10.

 

Thankfully I save myself the stress and never play them now apart from maybe the Langley on the odd occasion.

[__Helmut_Kohl__]

It really comes down to your playstyle (do you go after DDs a lot etc.) and the MM you are dealing with.

 

Other than Enterprise at T8, I do not have a clear favorite.

 

 

[El2aZeR]

T4

Best overall: it's probably still Hosho but I haven't played T4 in ages so I cannot say for sure

All T4 CVs are fairly comparable.

 

T6

Best overall: Ryujo by a huge margin, for the most part T6 CVs live and die by their torps as all other armament types are lackluster and Ryujo simply has the best ones

Second place probably goes to Loewenhardt but it is not available for purchase, Ark Royal is also very good but can be boring to play due to slow planes. Ranger and Furious are okayish.

 

T8

Best overall: Enterprise, arguably the most powerful CV tier for tier by literally being a T10 CV in disguise, not available for purchase

Shokaku and Lexington share second place, Chkalov comes close to that and is the best available premium, Kaga is the best for beginners and still very solid overall.

 

T10

Best overall: tie between Hakuryu and Midway, which is more powerful depends entirely on MM (Haku is better in BB/cruiser heavy matches, Midway is better in DD heavy ones)

Malta is the best premium by far, it comes very close to the top and is also the easiest to play. Nakhimov can push out big damage totals if the enemy is braindead and does not WASD but falls off quickly if the enemy has more than two braincells. Everything else is honestly not worth mentioning.

 

Super

Best overall: Sekiryu by a gigantic amount, literally just a Haku with tacticals

United States in second place due to having superior damage output and more flexibility than Eagle, however can be very easily sniped as the hull is extremely fragile.