[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,306 battles Report post #1 Posted December 31, 2022 I am getting more and more frustrated by a ship based airplane spotting, I can live with CV stupid spotting, but those from ships are ultra broken! How in the earth I am spotted here, there is no PLANE in sight, nor even anywhere close to be spotted by a plane. This lasted for some time and I havent even seen a enemy spotter plane. I ASSUME its a spotter from Yoshino on the flank, WHO was by the way on the other side of the island (plane I mean). I might be crazy but this cant be right... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #2 Posted December 31, 2022 Because you're lit on fire + no one can spot that plane. The spotter plane itself also has its concealment, unknown to us , might be 8km or 9. While your air concealment being on fire was maybe 11km. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #3 Posted December 31, 2022 Basically what was said already. Fire makes your concealment go big. They might be using a spotter/fighter plane which cant be spotted as its to far away. Smart move by the Yoshino trying to spot you like this. Also a little advice. Try to not overextend and lose all your hp that early into the match. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,306 battles Report post #4 Posted December 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, AtaIante said: Basically what was said already. Fire makes your concealment go big. They might be using a spotter/fighter plane which cant be spotted as its to far away. Smart move by the Yoshino trying to spot you like this. Also a little advice. Try to not overextend and lose all your hp that early into the match. Yes, makes sense in WoWs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #5 Posted December 31, 2022 Just now, Wulf_Ace said: Yes, makes sense in WoWs It's the game you are playing yes and it has these rules for years now yes. If you find them stupid then that's your own problem. Everyone plays under the same rules. So get over it or take a break. If we need to start topics now about most basic game mechanics by people who already put 10k battles into the game then we might as well call this forum "Trash bin" 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,306 battles Report post #6 Posted December 31, 2022 29 minutes ago, AtaIante said: It's the game you are playing yes and it has these rules for years now yes. If you find them stupid then that's your own problem. Everyone plays under the same rules. So get over it or take a break. If we need to start topics now about most basic game mechanics by people who already put 10k battles into the game then we might as well call this forum "Trash bin" and whats your problem? 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #7 Posted December 31, 2022 @Wulf_Ace I suggest you check out a mod called "Minimap mod by AutoSpy". You can enable a lot of stuff and you can customize them in any way you desire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #8 Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Wulf_Ace said: and whats your problem? It's just aggro in it's expression, nothing personal i think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Nov_A Beta Tester 1,292 posts 13,123 battles Report post #9 Posted December 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Wulf_Ace said: and whats your problem? smol PP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KVOR] coldocean Players 521 posts Report post #10 Posted December 31, 2022 Vor 2 Stunden, Wulf_Ace sagte: I am getting more and more frustrated by a ship based airplane spotting, I can live with CV stupid spotting, but those from ships are ultra broken! How in the earth I am spotted here, there is no PLANE in sight, nor even anywhere close to be spotted by a plane. This lasted for some time and I havent even seen a enemy spotter plane. I ASSUME its a spotter from Yoshino on the flank, WHO was by the way on the other side of the island (plane I mean). I might be crazy but this cant be right... Beside your fire problem ... yeah ... it is possible to abuse normal planes from BB for spotting. I remember a Youtuber even adjusting his complete setup around this issue. It is one of the small things, which WG should and could easily fix, but the community cannot focus on such stuff or even declines the problem existing. Think about that, when the next thread about external webpages starts or when WG is asked to remove submarines, CV and a few douzend other ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #11 Posted December 31, 2022 33 minutes ago, coldocean said: Beside your fire problem ... yeah ... it is possible to abuse normal planes from BB for spotting. I remember a Youtuber even adjusting his complete setup around this issue. It is one of the small things, which WG should and could easily fix, but the community cannot focus on such stuff or even declines the problem existing. Think about that, when the next thread about external webpages starts or when WG is asked to remove submarines, CV and a few douzend other ships. What do you mean by "abuse"? A spotter plane is literally in the name... "spotter" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #12 Posted December 31, 2022 I thought the spotter planes don't actually spot anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,306 battles Report post #13 Posted December 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, AtaIante said: What do you mean by "abuse"? A spotter plane is literally in the name... "spotter" In real life yes, his job is to find and observe fire on target but in this game since he cant move and find or spot target , since he just moves around the ship, his job is just to extend the range. Its funny that he corrects fire from target by watching target from his ship not from some other place where he cant actually see the target as he should. What I dont like is the range and spotting of these aircrafts while in other hand they cant be spotted, I just find this system wonky BUT it can be corrected in the right way which WG will not do, since its a lot of job and it will not provide them money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,306 battles Report post #14 Posted December 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Karasu_Browarszky said: I thought the spotter planes don't actually spot anything. spotter planein British English (ˈspɒtə pleɪn ) NOUNmilitary an aircraft used in observing enemy movements or the accuracy of fire on a target Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #15 Posted December 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, Wulf_Ace said: spotter planein British English (ˈspɒtə pleɪn ) NOUNmilitary an aircraft used in observing enemy movements or the accuracy of fire on a target Yes, but in WoWS, I mean. I thought they only extend the main gun range without the ability to actually spot targets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #16 Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Karasu_Browarszky said: Yes, but in WoWS, I mean. I thought they only extend the main gun range without the ability to actually spot targets. Ofc the spotting planes do spot but they also have limited spotting range. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #17 Posted December 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Karasu_Browarszky said: Yes, but in WoWS, I mean. I thought they only extend the main gun range without the ability to actually spot targets. You have more than 26k battles dude. How can you even believe your own words in that context? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #18 Posted December 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, AtaIante said: You have more than 26k battles dude. How can you even believe your own words in that context? Battles is the first line, 26k+ is something else... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #19 Posted December 31, 2022 40 minutes ago, Karasu_Browarszky said: Battles is the first line, 26k+ is something else... ?! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] HMS_Kilinowski [THESO] Players 2,665 posts 25,509 battles Report post #20 Posted December 31, 2022 7 hours ago, AtaIante said: It's the game you are playing yes and it has these rules for years now yes. If you find them stupid then that's your own problem. Everyone plays under the same rules. So get over it or take a break. If we need to start topics now about most basic game mechanics by people who already put 10k battles into the game then we might as well call this forum "Trash bin" Come on, Yosha, cut the boy some slack. Look at the trash we are discussing lately. For two months now, every time I check "unread content" I see the stupid birthday discount topic, right next to some whining threads where the same people, that miss their discount coupon, say they will no longer spend money cause the game has become unbearable. In comparison this is a technical topic. We all at times lose track of some mechanic. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,306 battles Report post #21 Posted January 1 27 minutes ago, HMS_Kilinowski said: Come on, Yosha, cut the boy some slack. Look at the trash we are discussing lately. For two months now, every time I check "unread content" I see the stupid birthday discount topic, right next to some whining threads where the same people, that miss their discount coupon, say they will no longer spend money cause the game has become unbearable. In comparison this is a technical topic. We all at times lose track of some mechanic. best answer ever in this forum 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #22 Posted January 1 9 hours ago, HMS_Kilinowski said: is a technical topic. We all at times lose track of some mechanic. True, sometimes I get lost in all the usual that you described. @Wulf_Ace sorry for being a toxic pepega towards you, happy new year <3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #23 Posted January 1 80% peoples who whines on forums have bad or not complete knowledge of mechanics of the game it is shown in every damn topic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KVOR] coldocean Players 521 posts Report post #24 Posted January 1 Vor 9 Stunden, WingedHussar_Adler sagte: 80% peoples who whines on forums have bad or not complete knowledge of mechanics of the game it is shown in every damn topic ... and your post absolutly helped to change this! Am 31.12.2022 um 20:50, AtaIante sagte: What do you mean by "abuse"? ... It just depends on how you look on such issues gameplay wise. Just because you know of an en passant option and use it, doesn't mean it is a good idea of having it in the game, especially when it makes other changes in the game very difficult. And you cannot argument with realism here, except you want for example the radar to get nerfed into the ground (or mountain) or giving the CV planes a better view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAOWS] Fediuld Beta Tester 326 posts 9,639 battles Report post #25 Posted January 2 On 12/31/2022 at 6:11 PM, Wulf_Ace said: I am getting more and more frustrated by a ship based airplane spotting, I can live with CV stupid spotting, but those from ships are ultra broken! How in the earth I am spotted here, there is no PLANE in sight, nor even anywhere close to be spotted by a plane. This lasted for some time and I havent even seen a enemy spotter plane. I ASSUME its a spotter from Yoshino on the flank, WHO was by the way on the other side of the island (plane I mean). I might be crazy but this cant be right... I would worry less about the spotter airplane and more about having the fires eating your last few HP while you have 3 repair charges left. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites