Worst tech tree ships on each tier

[Hirohito]

12 hours ago, HMS_Kilinowski said:

T5: I hated the T-22. It's a mediocre hybrid DD that manages to even look as fecal as it plays.

Hard disagree.
That boat carried me well through bronze, and I found that it's among the very best DDs at that tier provided a competent captain.
5,7km conceal is very good, and coupled with the small maps (and small caps) you can do hydro+smoke plays very consistently as long as you utilize islands to ambush.
The gun dpm is mediocre, but the torps are fantastic.
7,5km fast reloading 3x2 torps is no joke at this tier.
It's essentially just straight up a better IJN torp boat that can contest caps as well.

[nerderklaus]

T1 no idea

T2-T5 cruiers, T-22

T6 PEF

T7 Gorizia, Z-31

T8 Z-35, Maerker, Indomitable, Odin, Anhalt

T9 Schultz, Sejong, Ibuki

T10 Zao, Kurfürst, Columbo

T11 Clausewitz

[Gnirf]

13 hours ago, Ronchabale said:

 

I liked it too at first,  its speed and the ability to swing its middle turret to the front, but after playing it a bit...

It´s a Battleship without the "battle"

It has to show too much broadside to get the second turret off (lets not mention the third turret) and at that crucial moment the guns are very inconsistant, poor armour means she cant take a hit in return, A turrets barbette is huge, poorly protected and easily citadelled

HP pool is low, as is torp protection and AA

 

I mostly play BB:s so opinion is on that basis cant really say anything bad about the criusers or destroyers

(apart from the västerås which is so damned puny but is Västerås as bad a DD as Normandie is a BB ?)

Well, Normandie has my favourite camo in the game . the ocean liner - and that alone rises her verdict

[KillStealBoss]

5 hours ago, nerderklaus said:

T1 no idea

T2-T5 cruiers, T-22

T6 PEF

T7 Gorizia, Z-31

T8 Z-35, Maerker, Indomitable, Odin, Anhalt

T9 Schultz, Sejong, Ibuki

T10 Zao, Kurfürst, Columbo

T11 Clausewitz

Dude this thread is about techtree ships and you've included premiums....

[nerderklaus]

1 hour ago, KillStealBoss said:

Dude this thread is about techtree ships and you've included premiums....

Ohhh misread, but in the end there won't be systematic changes except for the method of ship acquiry...

 

CLs, most KM DDs, lots of old DDs, lots of cruisers (in particular CL), lots of KM/RM BBs being competetive for worst silvership.

[stevivo]

On 12/31/2022 at 2:10 PM, MixuS said:

Having faced incredible frustration with some of ships I'm currently grinding, I thought to list my opinion on worst tech tree ships of each tier. I skip first two tiers since I don't remember much about playing them. Besides that low tiers up to tier 5 are mostly based on vague memories. I only include ships that I've played.

1. Don't remember
2. Don't remember
3. I remember South Carolina being pretty bad even though my stats on it are pretty good, even more so considering it was very early in my wows career
4. This is a hard one. All BBs I remember to be at least ok, same for cruisers. So I think I pick Turbine, though I seem to only have played two matches on it. My memory about low tier ITA DDs is that their gimmicks just do not work until much later on in the line.
5. Emerald. Looking at how poor stats I have despite them being "unicum" seem to verify my memories about mostly useless ship
6. Rahmat. Absolute turd only made vaguely tolerable with smoke
7. Z-31. Supposed "gun boat" that has absolutely no gun power at all. Not that it has any torpedo power either
8. Cherbourg. Fast but can't kite. Good penetration but overpens everything. All guns front but can't nosetank due to overmatch and supercruiser burn time. Hard hitting guns that don't hit anything. Reload booster that only makes reload be on level that it should be constantly for the ship to be any good
9. Lion. Horrible gun angles. Guns that don't hit anything. Armor that mostly just ensures full AP pens. Superheal but to make full use of it you have to take huge changes of holding on to it until you're so low that you could be deleted by one good AP salvo
10. I don't think there aren't really bad ships here, only mediocre at worst. Conqueror might take the honor but I've only just got it and played on battle which went badly. Who knows, it might be great when I get the hang of it (though I don't know what it does better than Thunderer). So I think I need to say Zao. Much too short range, poor gun angles, poor torpedo angles. Terrible hitpoints. Was fun ages ago but has been in a need of major buffs, which won't happen since it won't make WG money

 

Out of the above, Cherbourg is proving to the worst wows experience for me ever. Even Lion I started to tolerate when I accepted the fact that I cannot do any regular BB things in it, just spam HE from far away.

 

What's your list?

Oh no. Sorry you feel that way about the Cherbourg. I actually have really found that I'm enjoying it. 

 

[Xogajuk]

Some crazy comments here as if people confuse best in tier with worst in tier ships.

 

T5: Emerald - and the problem is not a ship itself but heavily armored battleships prevalent at those tiers which British 6 inch guns can't pen. Moderately improved Leander just one tier higher feels borderline overpowered because most of ships she faces are much softer targets.

T6: Izmail - probably easiest to destroy ship in the game thanks to secondary turret cutouts through which it can be reliably citadelled by any other BB or large cruiser regardless of angling. At the same time none of workarounds work for this ship as shotgun dispersion formula prevents her from playing at range and only one front facing turret makes it impossible to stay strictly bow in. The only saving grace is that almost no one bothers to check armor layouts those days and knows her weak spot.

T7 and T8: A lot of ships as those tiers fall into below average category but none could be singled out into true thrash-tier.

T9: Riga - pathetic damage output with both HE and AP coupled with Soviet typical downsides of maneurability, concealment and exposed citadel leave island-hugging radar post as the only playstyle to somehow impact battle outcome. Second worst place goes to recently introduced Sejong.

T10: Delny - this thing is such a rare sight in randoms that people probably forgot it exists. Mildly improved version of Tashkent which is a strong contender for worst DD in its own tier.

[Redcap375]

On 12/31/2022 at 6:21 PM, Darkwhite_SaltyBelfast said:

I think Colombo is better than Schliefen and Preusen 

 

Schliefen is a complete monster in certain game modes and only held back by the random meta. I could see the Colombo being a turd so stopped at the tier 8 and not touched it since. 

 

Worst ship? Since playing from alpha? 

 

The peniscola (quite a few years back now) takes my top spot. God I hated that ship with a passion. Floating cit and... Well just hated everything about it. The Cleveland at tier 6 was a dream and still to this day my most played ship. But alas, haven't touched it since it got moved Two teirs up! 

 

Lion and Izumo (before buffs) are my Second. 

 

Drake 3rd

 

The donsky used to be my go to tier 9 cruiser and loved it. Not played it for years though and can see how it's got power crept to hell. 

[ReverendFlashback]

Z-31 actually isn't that bad. I mean I wouldn't call it great either but it works pretty well for me now.

Its shells are really good and the accuracy of the main battery makes somewhat up for  the lack of dpm. Last time I checked my hitrate in it was around 60% which is quite sick. Torps are pure area denial, but at least you get enough of them and they have good range.

But yes, when I first got it from a early access event I thought too, that this has to be the worst ship in the game, and my stats most likely won't ever recover from noobing around in it. Ignored it for quite a while too...

Really looking forward to GJM (only 10k xp away from it) since it is sameish enough after upgrades but gets a huge dpm boost over the T7.

 

And about worst ships... can't really tell because I didn't play every single one yet.

But both T5 UK cruisers feel pretty awfull comapred to the competition, and so does Chungking.

[MixuS]

4 hours ago, ReverendFlashback said:

Z-31 actually isn't that bad. I mean I wouldn't call it great either but it works pretty well for me now.

Well then you're sure to enjoy the rest of the line. Because holy shi* that thing was garbage. Angela Merkel is Ok, F.Schultz is good, and I assume Elbing is even better. Just don't assume to carry any games, these ships are fantastic at being number one in the losing team.

[Capn_Redwolf]

Albermarle, Lion, Z-31 are the ships that I hated so much they got sold in disgust after unlocking the next ship.

I feel Omono and Veneto might suffer the same fate once I finish their grinds.

 

For me Z-31 is the worst ship in the game.

[Redcap375]

1 minute ago, Capn_Redwolf said:

Albermarle, Lion, Z-31 are the ships that I hated so much they got sold in disgust after unlocking the next ship.

I feel Omono and Veneto might suffer the same fate once I finish their grinds.

 

For me Z-31 is the worst ship in the game.

 

oh Z-31, forgot that turd of a ship. Good call.

[lafeel]

2 hours ago, Redcap375 said:

 

oh Z-31, forgot that turd of a ship. Good call.

A lot of folks like to forget she even exists for sure, myself included.

[Redcap375]

2 minutes ago, lafeel said:

A lot of folks like to forget she even exists for sure, myself included.

142

Z-31

7

Germany

3

66.67%

2 586

57 099

1

4.33

Details

 

That's what I thought of it.  3 games was all I could stomach. 

[lafeel]

19 minutes ago, Redcap375 said:

142

Z-31

7

Germany

3

66.67%

2 586

57 099

1

4.33

Details

 

That's what I thought of it.  3 games was all I could stomach. 

Congratulations, that's one more game than I could stomach.

2 hours ago, Capn_Redwolf said:

Albermarle, Lion, Z-31 are the ships that I hated so much they got sold in disgust after unlocking the next ship.

 

Can't speak for Lion, but Albemarle and I have gotten along just fine so far, it was the Surrey that was the single biggest let down in the RN CA line so far, she's nowhere near enough of a improvement (imho) over the Devonshire to warrant the higher tier.

 

Also not all that impressed by the Maerker either..

[DFens_666]

On 1/2/2023 at 12:45 AM, Hirohito said:

I generally think cruisers as a class are too weak in this game, but mid tiers are a separate case of bullsh*t game balance.
Cruisers are bad, like, really bad at these tiers.

 

Giving them a heal would already help them a lot. But i guess even having like 5-6k more HP per game is too much to ask

 

looking at the worst techtree ships, you cant go wrong picking ITA DD, ITA BB, alternate KM DD line or IJN CLs. You can certainly pick one stinker from them on any tier.

[RepSrb]

zao,zao,zao , why people bring zao into ranked omfg i dont know...

[ollonborre]

1 hour ago, RepSrb said:

zao,zao,zao , why people bring zao into ranked omfg i dont know...

Zao is far from the worst nowadays, epsecially when you consider some more recent additions...

 

So my take then out of ships I have played and don't have fond memories of.

 

1-4: Don't really care/have no memories of them really.

5: Pre buff Emerald. It used to be horrible, now it's said to be better but I don't really want to go back and check, the first experience was enough.

6: Not sure, I enjoy tier 6 in general, but if I have to resort to my own statistics then Izmail? Not that I remember much of it.

7: Surrey. A heavy cruiser that is suprsisingly flimsy with poor DPM, not even a heal can make it work properly.

8: Tallin. "Omg stronk AP" is the only selling point, and it's not even that impressive when you consider the reload and platform it's based on.

9: Buffalo, I just could not make this ship work properly.

10: Jinan. Just, urgh.

 

But if I had to make out the worst ships or lines disregarding personal performance, then the new IJN cruiser line and Pan Asian cruiser line. Both are very flimsy, they can only contribute damage (and often not very good or reliable damage), they rely mainly on gimmicks and they don't really offer any utility to your team.

[lup3s]

On 1/2/2023 at 4:40 PM, nerderklaus said:

T1 no idea

T2-T5 cruiers, T-22

T6 PEF

T7 Gorizia, Z-31

T8 Z-35, Maerker, Indomitable, Odin, Anhalt

T9 Schultz, Sejong, Ibuki

T10 Zao, Kurfürst, Columbo

T11 Clausewitz

 

 

On 1/2/2023 at 10:37 PM, KillStealBoss said:

Dude this thread is about techtree ships and you've included premiums....

 

And one of them is Gorizia ... let alone it being a Premium, it's by far not the worst T7 ship - imo it even ranks among the top T7 CAs

[NewHorizons_1]

On 1/1/2023 at 6:33 PM, dommo77 said:

This is something I indeed have to work on - positioning, especially in US cruisers. In heavies it's not that bad as they are much tougher (plus heal), and even Buffalo was quite nice experience for me, but light ones... Like I mentioned I will reset this line some time in the future to learn this style :)

If you don't want to play USN CLs in Randoms, then try operations.

Cleveland is (now that T8s are allowed) my go-to ship for random ops due to high DPM, very good utility and half-decent AA (for ops like Hermes).

[lafeel]

2 hours ago, RepSrb said:

zao,zao,zao , why people bring zao into ranked omfg i dont know...

Not even the worst T10 IJN cruiser, that's Yodo.

[dommo77]

3 hours ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

If you don't want to play USN CLs in Randoms, then try operations.

Cleveland is (now that T8s are allowed) my go-to ship for random ops due to high DPM, very good utility and half-decent AA (for ops like Hermes).

Not tried operations for a while, I might actually do that, thx :)