Hyuga or Hood?

[AlexDZ]

I want to buy tier VII BB, so it would be nice if you have some advice about those two ships, preferably from those who owns one of those.

Thanks in advance.

[lafeel]

Could hardly find two more different tier 7 BB's. Hood is all speed, and potential overmatch, thanks to the potential of 381mm guns at tier 7. Sure they aren't the largest guns at that tier, but they are certainly nothing to scoff at, especially on a fast hull.

 

Hyuga meanwhile is a Fuso cranked up to 11. Slow, steady, but packing a enourmous potential punch due to her 12 356mm guns, and even made more so by the reload booster.

 

Honestly they are both good ships, but that 30 knot speed makes me have to give the nod to the (Mighty) Hood, as it makes her considerably the more flexible of the two.

 

EDIT: Small add on, if you want a IJN BB that's more like Hood, at the same tier, might I suggest Ashitaka?

[AlexDZ]

Thanks, i was looking at Ashitaka too but 410 mm are deceiving, big caliber but no pen(same as 356 from Hyuga) and after 15km it's even less.

[Nauseica]

I dont have any but i was considering on the past to get Hood for historical reasons plus i have some cool camos for it

 

Hyuga is more of a BB with alot of guns and you hope to hit atleast with some of it and has the reload booster as gimmick
Hood is more the accurate BB that can hit and evaporate the target if ofc the RNG is with her but also has improve angles on it so less chance for ricochets and its faster.
Il say its more what you prefer ... fast and accurate its Hood else a bit slow and inaccurate but alot of shells in the air and releod booster is Hyuga

[lafeel]

16 minutes ago, AlexDZ said:

Thanks, i was looking at Ashitaka too but 410 mm are deceiving, big caliber but no pen(same as 356 from Hyuga) and after 15km it's even less.

Really don't know where you're getting that information from, but in my expirience Ashitaka has considerably better pen than the 356's. Also, obviosly, a lot better overmatch than either the Hyuga or the Hood due to having the second largest guns you can get at tier 7 (only recently beaten by Collingwood)

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

14 minutes ago, AlexDZ said:

Thanks, i was looking at Ashitaka too but 410 mm are deceiving, big caliber but no pen(same as 356 from Hyuga) and after 15km it's even less.

https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Armor_thresholds#AP_overmatch

[22cm]

Weeb or teaeeb?

[AlexDZ]

4 minutes ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said:

https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Armor_thresholds#AP_overmatch

Yes i am aware of overmatch.

[22cm]

17 minutes ago, AlexDZ said:

Thanks, i was looking at Ashitaka too but 410 mm are deceiving, big caliber but no pen(same as 356 from Hyuga) and after 15km it's even less.

This was long time ago. Now it has the same AP shells as Nagato or Amagi.

[AlexDZ]

This is quote from LWM 

"The kick in the pants that everyone will focus on are her penetration issues.  With her lower Krupp rating, Ashitaka's shells not only lack penetration power, they're also more likely to shatter against thicker armour plate.   In practice, Ashitaka's AP shells behave very similarly to the 356mm shells of the King George V-class, keeping comparable penetration power up to about 15km. Beyond that, Ashitaka's performance begins to fall noticeably behind. "

[AlexDZ]

1 minute ago, 22cm said:

This was long time ago. Now it has the same AP shells as Nagato or Amagi.

Thank you, i did not know that.

[Ubertron_X]

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[Ubertron_X]

Source: https://wowsft.com/

 

(artillery charts)

[NewHorizons_1]

7 minutes ago, 22cm said:

Weeb or teaeeb?

I thought it was teabaroo?

[Animalul2012]

Ashitaka got buffed a long long ago from using the type 88 410 mm shell the one that Mutsu uses to type 98 the ones that Amagi uses. Ashitaka has Amagi guns at tier 7.

[KillStealBoss]

Ashitaka has decent pen now. But has worse armour then Hyuga. Ashitaka can be really hard blapped losing almost all hp. Hyuga also has pretty good reload and a reload booster. But it's good mainly against cruisers. Can punish a broadsiding BB but not super hard. Hyuga is buffed Fuso. But I still think it's pretty ok. Note that HE shells are very slow. 

 

Hard to decide though if Hood is better or worse than Hyuga. And I would have a hard dilemma. Though Hood has more overmatch and speed over Hyuga bigger volleys that reload faster. Probably I would pick Hood for historical meaning. 

[Verblonde]

Although Hood is theoretically nerf-proof, I still haven't forgiven WG for ruining her ludicrous AA rockets with the CV reework. They were hilarious if anyone was stupid enough to blunder into them...

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

2 hours ago, Animalul2012 said:

Ashitaka has Amagi guns at tier 7.

Ahitaka is the vaunted Amagi A hull, recycled as a premium..

[Viridem]

Unfortunately I don't have Hood, so I can't really tell which one is better.

 

However I can absolutely vouch for Hyuuga, she's a very good ship. Great guns that deal reliable damage. The ship relies a lot on the basics of BB play: positioning, angling, aiming and shell choice. If you master this, you'll have a good time. You're not carried by some gimmick like Soviet guns, Soviet armour etc... Yes there's MBRB as a gimmick, but it's more icing on the cake than a core element of the ship.

 

She's slow, she can't really overmatch (lol just shoot HE), and she has poor AA. If these are important for you, Hood seems indeed the better pick.

[Itwastuesday]

Both are nice. Hyuga is a bit more special with the reload booster, Hood more solid overall. The Hood is my favourite at T7.

[Yedwy]

2 hours ago, Animalul2012 said:

Ashitaka got buffed a long long ago from using the type 88 410 mm shell the one that Mutsu uses to type 98 the ones that Amagi uses. Ashitaka has Amagi guns at tier 7.

This its A hull of Amagi thats used to be in game long ago made a t7 premium and she is a beast

[Ubertron_X]

Speed: Hood 32kt base versus Ashitaka 30kt and Hyuga 25kt

Concealment: Hood 15.7km base versus Ashitaka 16.8km and Hyuga 16.3kt

Hit Points: Hood 67k versus Ashitaka 60k and Hyuga 61kt

 

The Japanese probably have better guns and/or more guns, however they are huge, huge, HUGE ships, especially Ashitaka, who can be outspotted by even Musashi. Also while it does not show in any stats on any site Hood maneuvres quite well even despite her size and turning radius, especially when you have rudder mod equipped.

[Ubertron_X]

14 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

This its A hull of Amagi thats used to be in game long ago made a t7 premium and she is a beast

You mean a T8 A hull downgraded to T7 and missing its 5th slot, well you are right.

 

(don't get me wrong, I don't doubt that it is a good ship, however usually T8 hulls have a concealment increase "prized" in that Ashitaka pays in full without having any means of compensation)

[Yedwy]

4 minutes ago, Ubertron_X said:

You mean a T8 A hull downgraded to T7 and missing its 5th slot, well you are right.

Yes and thinner plate which can be an issue at times but she is still a beast in randoms and used to be good for farming narai as well also with the super economic booster a good silver farmer...