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European heavy cruiser tech tree line proposal

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Previously, I suggested light cruisers in Europe, and then I found a draft heavy cruiser for Greece, which would be great for a tier 10.

Tech tree features:

  • Improved consumables: Advanced Damage Control Party (Action time - 30 seconds, cooldown - 80 seconds, number of equipment - 6), Special Main Battery Reload Booster (Reload time reduction - 25%, duration seconds - 60, cooldown - 120 (VII, VIII), 80 (IX, X) seconds, charge - 3), Special Repair Party (Ship restore - 50%, citadel restore - 50%, duration - 10 seconds, cooldown - 100 sec, charges - 4);
  • Artillery does not have the highest number of barrels, and not the highest amount of survivability, however, they have a fairly high damage of AP shells, with a high rate of fire;
  • Preferential ricochet angles for AP projectiles;
  • Torpedoes are similar to destroyers, high speed and reload, high range but not high damage;

 

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European cruiser Äran, Tier II:

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In march 1916 commander Erik Hägg (CO of HSwMS Oscar II) posted a suggestion for a light scout cruiser for the RSWN in the Royal Swedish Naval Society Gazette (Tidskrift i Sjöväsende).

Spoiler

Displacement: 3000 t

Plating: 6 mm

Deck: 6 mm

Armor belt: 6 mm

Length: 125 m

Hit points: 17 300

Torpedo protection: 4%

Main armament

4x1 152 mm/50 Model 1903

Reload time: 6 sec

Firing range: 10,7 km

180 degree turn time: 18 sec

Sigma: 2,0

HE – 152 mm HE Model 1903

     Projectile weight: 46 kg

     Max damage: 2100

     Fire Chance: 7%

     Armor penetration: 25 mm

     HE initial velocity: 850 m/s

AP – 152 mm АР Model 1903

     Projectile weight: 46 kg

     Max damage: 2800

     AP initial velocity: 850 m/s

Secondary Armament

3х1 76 mm/60 Model 1903

      Reload time: 5 sec

      Max Damage: 1 100

      Fire Chance: 3%

      Armor penetration: 13 mm

      Firing range: 3,2 km

      HE initial velocity: 980 m/s

Maximum speed: 27,0 kts

Turning circle radius: 420 m

Rudder shift time: 5,4 sec

Surface detectability: 7,1 km

Air detectability: 2,9 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Damage Control Party

European cruiser Fylgia, Tier III:

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Was an armored cruiser of the Swedish Navy. Launched in 1905, the ship was in service until 1953. The cruiser was primarily used as a training ship for naval cadets.

Spoiler

Displacement: 4980 t

Plating: 13 mm

Deck: 13 mm

Armor belt: 100 mm

Length: 117 m

Hit points: 19 700

Torpedo protection: 4%

Main armament

4x2 152 mm/50 Model 1903

Reload time: 6 sec

Firing range: 11,4 km

180 degree turn time: 18 sec

Sigma: 2,0

HE – 152 mm HE Model 1903

     Projectile weight: 46 kg

     Max damage: 2100

     Fire Chance: 7%

     Armor penetration: 25 mm

     HE initial velocity: 850 m/s

AP – 152 mm АР Model 1903

     Projectile weight: 46 kg

     Max damage: 2800

     AP initial velocity: 850 m/s

Torpedo armament
2х2 533 mm Double

       Reload ime: 46 seconds

       Torpedo type: Torped M1913 mod 1
       Damage: 6 200

       Flood chance: 95%
       Speed: 60 knots
       Range: 8,0 km
       Detection range: 1,4 km

AA defense:

4x1 57 mm Bofors w/98B-38B

2x2 40 mm/56 Bofors wz.1936

4x1 25 mm/64 Bofors wz.1932

2x2 20 mm/66 Bofors wz.1940

Maximum speed: 22,0 kts

Turning circle radius: 400 m

Rudder shift time: 5,2 sec

Surface detectability: 7,7 km

Air detectability: 3,1 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Special Repair Party

European cruiser Dragon, Tier IV:

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Was a D- or Danae-class cruiser built for the Royal Navy. She was launched in Glasgow, in December 1917, and scuttled in July 1944 off the Normandy beaches as part of the Arromanches Breakwater.

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Displacement: 4928 t

Plating: 13 mm

Deck: 13 mm

Armor belt: 76,2 mm

Length: 136 m

Hit points: 20 500

Torpedo protection: 4%

Main armament

5x1 152 mm/50 BL Mk.XII

Reload time: 6 sec

Firing range: 13,4 km

180 degree turn time: 18 sec

Sigma: 2,0

HE – 152 mm HE 6crh

     Projectile weight: 50,8 kg

     Max damage: 2100

     Fire Chance: 10%

     Armor penetration: 25 mm

     HE initial velocity: 853 m/s

AP – 152 mm AP 4crh

     Projectile weight: 45,3 kg

     Max damage: 2900

     AP initial velocity: 853 m/s

Secondary Armament

1х1 102 mm/45 QF Mk.V

      Reload time: 5 sec

      Max Damage: 1 500

      Fire Chance: 6%

      Armor penetration: 17 mm

      Firing range: 3,2 km

      HE initial velocity: 800 m/s

Torpedo armament

4х3 533 mm TR Mk I

       Reload ime: 30 seconds

       Torpedo type: Torped M1913 mod 1
       Damage: 6 200

       Flood chance: 95%
       Speed: 60 knots
       Range: 8,0 km
       Detection range: 1,4 km

AA defense:

1х1 102 mm/45 QF Mk.V

1х8 40 mm/39 Vickers QF Mk.VIII

3х4 40 mm/39 Vickers QF Mk.VIII

6х2 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II

6x1 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.I

Maximum speed: 29,0 kts

Turning circle radius: 540 m

Rudder shift time: 5,9 sec

Surface detectability: 8,0 km

Air detectability: 3,6 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Advanced Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Special Repair Party

Slot 3 - Hydroacoustic Search

European cruiser Baltyc, Tier V:

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To expand the fleet, Poland planned either to create its own cruiser, which would completely copy the French Duguay-Trouin, or to order ships from the UK, which in their characteristics were an actual copy of the Arethusa class: 6700 tons, main caliber 3x2 152 mm, 2x3 533 mm torpedo apparatus

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Displacement: 6665 t

Plating: 13 mm

Deck: 13 mm

Armor belt: 70 mm

Length: 154 m

Hit points: 22 600

Torpedo protection: 4%

Main armament

3x2 152 mm/50 BL Mk.XXIII

Reload time: 7,5 sec

Firing range: 13,7 km

180 degree turn time: 25,71 sec

Sigma: 2,0

HE – 152 mm HE 6crh Mk IV

     Projectile weight: 50,8 kg

     Max damage: 2100

     Fire Chance: 9%

     Armor penetration: 25 mm

     HE initial velocity: 841 m/s

AP – 152 mm AP 6crh Mk IV

     Projectile weight: 50,8 kg

     Max damage: 3100

     AP initial velocity: 841 m/s

Secondary Armament

4x2 102 mm/45 QF Mk.XVI

      Reload time: 3 sec

      Max Damage: 1 500

      Fire Chance: 6%

      Armor penetration: 17 mm

      Firing range: 4,3 km

      HE initial velocity: 811 m/s

Torpedo armament

2х3 533 mm TR Mk IV

       Reload ime: 30 seconds

       Torpedo type: Torped M1924 mod 1
       Damage: 7 533

       Flood chance: 119%
       Speed: 65 knots
       Range: 10,0 km
       Detection range: 1,4 km

AA defense:

4x2 102 mm/45 QF Mk.XVI

2х4 40 mm/39 Vickers QF Mk.VIII

4х2 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II

8x1 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.I

Maximum speed: 32,0 kts

Turning circle radius: 570 m

Rudder shift time: 6,4 sec

Surface detectability: 10,0 km

Air detectability: 6,5 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Advanced Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Special Repair Party

Slot 3 - Hydroacoustic Search

European cruiser Kilkís, Tier VI:

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In 1930, Britain designed many export options for heavy cruisers, and offered to many countries, including Greece. This project was an improved Kent class

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Displacement: 8500 t

Plating: 16 mm

Deck: 16 mm

Armor belt: 114 mm

Length: 176,6 m

Hit points: 31 500

Torpedo protection: 12%

Main armament

3x2 203 mm/50 Mk VIII

Reload time: 10,5 sec

Firing range: 14,1 km

180 degree turn time: 22,5 sec

Sigma: 2,0

HE – 203 mm HE 256 lb

     Projectile weight: 116,1 kg

     Max damage: 2850

     Fire Chance: 15%

     Armor penetration: 34 mm

     HE initial velocity: 855 m/s

AP – 203 mm AP 256 lb

     Projectile weight: 116,1 kg

     Max damage: 4550

     AP initial velocity: 855 m/s

Secondary Armament

4x2 102 mm/45 QF Mk.XVI

      Reload time: 3 sec

      Max Damage: 1 500

      Fire Chance: 6%

      Armor penetration: 17 mm

      Firing range: 5 km

      HE initial velocity: 811 m/s

Torpedo armament

2х4 533 mm QR Mk IV

       Reload ime: 46 seconds

       Torpedo type: Torped M1943
       Damage: 7 533

       Flood chance: 119%
       Speed: 76 knots
       Range: 12,0 km
       Detection range: 1,6 km

AA defense:

4x2 102 mm/45 QF Mk.XVI

2x8 40 mm/39 Vickers QF Mk.VIII

8х2 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II

8x1 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.I

Maximum speed: 32,5 kts

Turning circle radius: 650 m

Rudder shift time: 7,1 sec

Surface detectability: 10,7 km

Air detectability: 5,8 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Advanced Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Special Repair Party

Slot 3 - Hydroacoustic Search

European cruiser Návarchos Miaoúlis, Tier VII:

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Also, the export project from the Vickers company was a modified County class.

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Displacement: 10 000 t

Plating: 25 mm

Deck: 25 mm

Armor belt: 114 mm

Length: 190,8 m

Hit points: 34 900

Torpedo protection: 13%

Main armament

4x2 203 mm/50 Mk VIII

Reload time: 12,5 sec

Firing range: 15,5 km

180 degree turn time: 22,5 sec

Sigma: 2,0

HE – 203 mm HE 256 lb

     Projectile weight: 116,1 kg

     Max damage: 2850

     Fire Chance: 15%

     Armor penetration: 34 mm

     HE initial velocity: 855 m/s

AP – 203 mm AP 256 lb

     Projectile weight: 116,1 kg

     Max damage: 4550

     AP initial velocity: 855 m/s

Secondary Armament

4x2 102 mm/45 QF Mk.XVI

      Reload time: 3 sec

      Max Damage: 1 500

      Fire Chance: 6%

      Armor penetration: 17 mm

      Firing range: 5,6 km

      HE initial velocity: 811 m/s

Torpedo armament

2х4 533 mm QR Mk IV

       Reload ime: 56 seconds

       Torpedo type: Torped M1943 mod 1
       Damage: 10 700

       Flood chance: 173%
       Speed: 76 knots
       Range: 12,0 km
       Detection range: 1,6 km

AA defense:

4x2 102 mm/45 QF Mk.XVI

4x8 40 mm/39 Vickers QF Mk.VIII

8х2 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II

10x1 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.I

Maximum speed: 32 kts

Turning circle radius: 700 m

Rudder shift time: 7,9 sec

Surface detectability: 11,0 km

Air detectability: 6,5 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Advanced Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Special Repair Party

Slot 3 - Hydroacoustic Search

Slot 4 - Special Main Battery Reload Booster

European cruiser Szczecin, Tier VIII:

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Cruiser project of the 1939s, with the placement of 8 guns of the main caliber 203 mm. Britain built ships for Poland at its shipyards, but if Poland had ordered the cruiser data, it would have received it only by 1947-1950 with modernization for Soviet air defense.

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Displacement: 10 000 t

Plating: 25 mm

Deck: 25 mm

Armor belt: 114 mm

Length: 176,8 m

Hit points: 39 400

Torpedo protection: 10%

Main armament

4x2 203 mm/50 Mk VIII

Reload time: 11,5 sec

Firing range: 16,0 km

180 degree turn time: 22,5 sec

Sigma: 2,0

HE – 203 mm HE 256 lb

     Projectile weight: 116,1 kg

     Max damage: 2850

     Fire Chance: 15%

     Armor penetration: 34 mm

     HE initial velocity: 855 m/s

AP – 203 mm AP 256 lb

     Projectile weight: 116,1 kg

     Max damage: 4550

     AP initial velocity: 855 m/s

Secondary Armament

4x2 113 mm/45 QF Mk.V

      Reload time: 3 sec

      Max Damage: 1 600

      Fire Chance: 7%

      Armor penetration: 19 mm

      Firing range: 6,6 km

      HE initial velocity: 746 m/s

Torpedo armament

2х4 533 mm QR Mk IV

       Reload ime: 56 seconds

       Torpedo type: Torped M1943 mod 1
       Damage: 10 700

       Flood chance: 173%
       Speed: 76 knots
       Range: 12,0 km
       Detection range: 1,6 km

AA defense:

4x2 113 mm/45 QF Mk.V

4x4 45 mm SM-20-ZIF

6х2 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II

8x1 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.I

Maximum speed: 32 kts

Turning circle radius: 720 m

Rudder shift time: 8,4 sec

Surface detectability: 11,6 km

Air detectability: 6,9 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Advanced Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Special Repair Party

Slot 3 - Hydroacoustic Search

Slot 4 - Special Main Battery Reload Booster

European cruiser Koszalin, Tier IX:

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Also a project of the 1939s of Great Britain, transferred to Poland after the Second World War with the deployment of Soviet air defense.

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Displacement: 17 450 t

Plating: 25 mm

Deck: 25 mm

Armor belt: 152 mm

Length: 204,22 m

Hit points: 42 500

Torpedo protection: 17%

Main armament

3x2 234 mm/50 Mk.XII

Reload time: 11,5 sec

Firing range: 16,4 km

180 degree turn time: 22,5 sec

Sigma: 2,05

HE – 234 mm HE 4 CRH

     Projectile weight: 172,4 kg

     Max damage: 3350

     Fire Chance: 21%

     Armor penetration: 39 mm

     HE initial velocity: 841 m/s

AP – 234 mm AP 6 CRH

     Projectile weight: 185,3 kg

     Max damage: 5750

     AP initial velocity: 841 m/s

Secondary Armament

6x2 113 mm/45 QF Mk.V

      Reload time: 3 sec

      Max Damage: 1 600

      Fire Chance: 7%

      Armor penetration: 19 mm

      Firing range: 7 km

      HE initial velocity: 746 m/s

Torpedo armament

2х4 533 mm QR Mk II

       Reload ime: 56 seconds

       Torpedo type: Torped M1947    
       Damage: 10 700

       Flood chance: 173%
       Speed: 86 knots
       Range: 13,5 km
       Detection range: 1,8 km

AA defense:

4x2 113 mm/45 QF Mk.V

6x4 45 mm SM-20-ZIF

20х2 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II

Maximum speed: 34 kts

Turning circle radius: 720 m

Rudder shift time: 10,5 sec

Surface detectability: 11,8 km

Air detectability: 7,5 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Advanced Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Special Repair Party

Slot 3 - Hydroacoustic Search

Slot 4 - Special Main Battery Reload Booster

Slot 5 - Defensive AA Fire

European cruiser Athína, Tier X:

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At the end of January 1939 Vice-Admiral Alexandros Pilatos Sakellariou of the Royal Hellenic Navy asked the British Naval Attaché Captain Herbert Annesley Packer who forwarded the request to the DNC (Director of Naval Constructions) for a cruiser about 18.000tons displacement 10" main gun armament and high speed to effectively fight the nimble 10.000ton Italian Heavy Cruisers and to keep the Aegean Sea safe.

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Displacement: 19 450 t

Plating: 27 mm

Deck: 27 mm

Armor belt: 203 mm

Length: 205,7 m

Hit points: 55 100

Torpedo protection: 19%

Main armament

3x2 254 mm/50 BL Mk VIII

Reload time: 11 sec

Firing range: 16,9 km

180 degree turn time: 16 sec

Sigma: 2,05

HE – 254 mm HE

     Projectile weight: 244 kg

     Max damage: 3600

     Fire Chance: 27%

     Armor penetration: 42 mm

     HE initial velocity: 810 m/s

AP – 254 mm AP

     Projectile weight: 244 kg

     Max damage: 6350

     AP initial velocity: 810 m/s

Secondary Armament

6x2 113 mm/45 QF Mk.V

      Reload time: 3 sec

      Max Damage: 1 600

      Fire Chance: 7%

      Armor penetration: 19 mm

      Firing range: 7,3 km

      HE initial velocity: 746 m/s

Torpedo armament

2х4 533 mm QR Mk II

       Reload ime: 60 seconds

       Torpedo type: Torped M1947 mod 1 
       Damage: 10 700

       Flood chance: 173%
       Speed: 86 knots
       Range: 15 km
       Detection range: 1,8 km

AA defense:

4x2 113 mm/45 QF Mk.V

8x6 40 mm/56 OQF Mk.IX

4x2 40 mm/56 OQF Mk.X

12x1 40 mm/56 OQF Mk.III

22х2 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II

Maximum speed: 34 kts

Turning circle radius: 760 m

Rudder shift time: 11,3 sec

Surface detectability: 12,4 km

Air detectability: 8,9 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Advanced Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Special Repair Party

Slot 3 - Hydroacoustic Search

Slot 4 - Special Main Battery Reload Booster

Slot 5 - Defensive AA Fire

 

This is my personal proposal and not the fact that ships will ever appear in the game or my concept will be taken into attention!

 Thank you for your attention!

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5 minutes ago, TheKaramelka said:

Previously, I suggested light cruisers in Europe, and then I found a draft heavy cruiser for Greece, which would be great for a tier 10.

Tech tree features:

  • Improved consumables: Advanced Damage Control Party (Action time - 30 seconds, cooldown - 80 seconds, number of equipment - 6), Special Main Battery Reload Booster (Reload time reduction - 25%, duration seconds - 60, cooldown - 120 (VII, VIII), 80 (IX, X) seconds, charge - 3), Special Repair Party (Ship restore - 50%, citadel restore - 50%, duration - 10 seconds, cooldown - 100 sec, charges - 4);
  • Artillery does not have the highest number of barrels, and not the highest amount of survivability, however, they have a fairly high damage of AP shells, with a high rate of fire;
  • Preferential ricochet angles for AP projectiles;
  • Torpedoes are similar to destroyers, high speed and reload, high range but not high damage;

 

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European cruiser Äran, Tier II:

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In march 1916 commander Erik Hägg (CO of HSwMS Oscar II) posted a suggestion for a light scout cruiser for the RSWN in the Royal Swedish Naval Society Gazette (Tidskrift i Sjöväsende).

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Displacement: 3000 t

Plating: 6 mm

Deck: 6 mm

Armor belt: 6 mm

Length: 125 m

Hit points: 17 300

Torpedo protection: 4%

Main armament

4x1 152 mm/50 Model 1903

Reload time: 6 sec

Firing range: 10,7 km

180 degree turn time: 18 sec

Sigma: 2,0

HE – 152 mm HE Model 1903

     Projectile weight: 46 kg

     Max damage: 2100

     Fire Chance: 7%

     Armor penetration: 25 mm

     HE initial velocity: 850 m/s

AP – 152 mm АР Model 1903

     Projectile weight: 46 kg

     Max damage: 2800

     AP initial velocity: 850 m/s

Secondary Armament

3х1 76 mm/60 Model 1903

      Reload time: 5 sec

      Max Damage: 1 100

      Fire Chance: 3%

      Armor penetration: 13 mm

      Firing range: 3,2 km

      HE initial velocity: 980 m/s

Maximum speed: 27,0 kts

Turning circle radius: 420 m

Rudder shift time: 5,4 sec

Surface detectability: 7,1 km

Air detectability: 2,9 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Damage Control Party

European cruiser Fylgia, Tier III:

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Was an armored cruiser of the Swedish Navy. Launched in 1905, the ship was in service until 1953. The cruiser was primarily used as a training ship for naval cadets.

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Displacement: 4980 t

Plating: 13 mm

Deck: 13 mm

Armor belt: 100 mm

Length: 117 m

Hit points: 19 700

Torpedo protection: 4%

Main armament

4x2 152 mm/50 Model 1903

Reload time: 6 sec

Firing range: 11,4 km

180 degree turn time: 18 sec

Sigma: 2,0

HE – 152 mm HE Model 1903

     Projectile weight: 46 kg

     Max damage: 2100

     Fire Chance: 7%

     Armor penetration: 25 mm

     HE initial velocity: 850 m/s

AP – 152 mm АР Model 1903

     Projectile weight: 46 kg

     Max damage: 2800

     AP initial velocity: 850 m/s

Torpedo armament
2х2 533 mm Double

       Reload ime: 46 seconds

       Torpedo type: Torped M1913 mod 1
       Damage: 6 200

       Flood chance: 95%
       Speed: 60 knots
       Range: 8,0 km
       Detection range: 1,4 km

AA defense:

4x1 57 mm Bofors w/98B-38B

2x2 40 mm/56 Bofors wz.1936

4x1 25 mm/64 Bofors wz.1932

2x2 20 mm/66 Bofors wz.1940

Maximum speed: 22,0 kts

Turning circle radius: 400 m

Rudder shift time: 5,2 sec

Surface detectability: 7,7 km

Air detectability: 3,1 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Special Repair Party

European cruiser Dragon, Tier IV:

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Was a D- or Danae-class cruiser built for the Royal Navy. She was launched in Glasgow, in December 1917, and scuttled in July 1944 off the Normandy beaches as part of the Arromanches Breakwater.

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Displacement: 4928 t

Plating: 13 mm

Deck: 13 mm

Armor belt: 76,2 mm

Length: 136 m

Hit points: 20 500

Torpedo protection: 4%

Main armament

5x1 152 mm/50 BL Mk.XII

Reload time: 6 sec

Firing range: 13,4 km

180 degree turn time: 18 sec

Sigma: 2,0

HE – 152 mm HE 6crh

     Projectile weight: 50,8 kg

     Max damage: 2100

     Fire Chance: 10%

     Armor penetration: 25 mm

     HE initial velocity: 853 m/s

AP – 152 mm AP 4crh

     Projectile weight: 45,3 kg

     Max damage: 2900

     AP initial velocity: 853 m/s

Secondary Armament

1х1 102 mm/45 QF Mk.V

      Reload time: 5 sec

      Max Damage: 1 500

      Fire Chance: 6%

      Armor penetration: 17 mm

      Firing range: 3,2 km

      HE initial velocity: 800 m/s

Torpedo armament

4х3 533 mm TR Mk I

       Reload ime: 30 seconds

       Torpedo type: Torped M1913 mod 1
       Damage: 6 200

       Flood chance: 95%
       Speed: 60 knots
       Range: 8,0 km
       Detection range: 1,4 km

AA defense:

1х1 102 mm/45 QF Mk.V

1х8 40 mm/39 Vickers QF Mk.VIII

3х4 40 mm/39 Vickers QF Mk.VIII

6х2 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II

6x1 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.I

Maximum speed: 29,0 kts

Turning circle radius: 540 m

Rudder shift time: 5,9 sec

Surface detectability: 8,0 km

Air detectability: 3,6 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Advanced Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Special Repair Party

Slot 3 - Hydroacoustic Search

European cruiser Baltyc, Tier V:

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To expand the fleet, Poland planned either to create its own cruiser, which would completely copy the French Duguay-Trouin, or to order ships from the UK, which in their characteristics were an actual copy of the Arethusa class: 6700 tons, main caliber 3x2 152 mm, 2x3 533 mm torpedo apparatus

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Displacement: 6665 t

Plating: 13 mm

Deck: 13 mm

Armor belt: 70 mm

Length: 154 m

Hit points: 22 600

Torpedo protection: 4%

Main armament

3x2 152 mm/50 BL Mk.XXIII

Reload time: 7,5 sec

Firing range: 13,7 km

180 degree turn time: 25,71 sec

Sigma: 2,0

HE – 152 mm HE 6crh Mk IV

     Projectile weight: 50,8 kg

     Max damage: 2100

     Fire Chance: 9%

     Armor penetration: 25 mm

     HE initial velocity: 841 m/s

AP – 152 mm AP 6crh Mk IV

     Projectile weight: 50,8 kg

     Max damage: 3100

     AP initial velocity: 841 m/s

Secondary Armament

4x2 102 mm/45 QF Mk.XVI

      Reload time: 3 sec

      Max Damage: 1 500

      Fire Chance: 6%

      Armor penetration: 17 mm

      Firing range: 4,3 km

      HE initial velocity: 811 m/s

Torpedo armament

2х3 533 mm TR Mk IV

       Reload ime: 30 seconds

       Torpedo type: Torped M1924 mod 1
       Damage: 7 533

       Flood chance: 119%
       Speed: 65 knots
       Range: 10,0 km
       Detection range: 1,4 km

AA defense:

4x2 102 mm/45 QF Mk.XVI

2х4 40 mm/39 Vickers QF Mk.VIII

4х2 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II

8x1 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.I

Maximum speed: 32,0 kts

Turning circle radius: 570 m

Rudder shift time: 6,4 sec

Surface detectability: 10,0 km

Air detectability: 6,5 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Advanced Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Special Repair Party

Slot 3 - Hydroacoustic Search

European cruiser Kilkís, Tier VI:

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In 1930, Britain designed many export options for heavy cruisers, and offered to many countries, including Greece. This project was an improved Kent class

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Displacement: 8500 t

Plating: 16 mm

Deck: 16 mm

Armor belt: 114 mm

Length: 176,6 m

Hit points: 31 500

Torpedo protection: 12%

Main armament

3x2 203 mm/50 Mk VIII

Reload time: 10,5 sec

Firing range: 14,1 km

180 degree turn time: 22,5 sec

Sigma: 2,0

HE – 203 mm HE 256 lb

     Projectile weight: 116,1 kg

     Max damage: 2850

     Fire Chance: 15%

     Armor penetration: 34 mm

     HE initial velocity: 855 m/s

AP – 203 mm AP 256 lb

     Projectile weight: 116,1 kg

     Max damage: 4550

     AP initial velocity: 855 m/s

Secondary Armament

4x2 102 mm/45 QF Mk.XVI

      Reload time: 3 sec

      Max Damage: 1 500

      Fire Chance: 6%

      Armor penetration: 17 mm

      Firing range: 5 km

      HE initial velocity: 811 m/s

Torpedo armament

2х4 533 mm QR Mk IV

       Reload ime: 46 seconds

       Torpedo type: Torped M1943
       Damage: 7 533

       Flood chance: 119%
       Speed: 76 knots
       Range: 12,0 km
       Detection range: 1,6 km

AA defense:

4x2 102 mm/45 QF Mk.XVI

2x8 40 mm/39 Vickers QF Mk.VIII

8х2 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II

8x1 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.I

Maximum speed: 32,5 kts

Turning circle radius: 650 m

Rudder shift time: 7,1 sec

Surface detectability: 10,7 km

Air detectability: 5,8 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Advanced Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Special Repair Party

Slot 3 - Hydroacoustic Search

European cruiser Návarchos Miaoúlis, Tier VII:

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Also, the export project from the Vickers company was a modified County class.

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Displacement: 10 000 t

Plating: 25 mm

Deck: 25 mm

Armor belt: 114 mm

Length: 190,8 m

Hit points: 34 900

Torpedo protection: 13%

Main armament

4x2 203 mm/50 Mk VIII

Reload time: 12,5 sec

Firing range: 15,5 km

180 degree turn time: 22,5 sec

Sigma: 2,0

HE – 203 mm HE 256 lb

     Projectile weight: 116,1 kg

     Max damage: 2850

     Fire Chance: 15%

     Armor penetration: 34 mm

     HE initial velocity: 855 m/s

AP – 203 mm AP 256 lb

     Projectile weight: 116,1 kg

     Max damage: 4550

     AP initial velocity: 855 m/s

Secondary Armament

4x2 102 mm/45 QF Mk.XVI

      Reload time: 3 sec

      Max Damage: 1 500

      Fire Chance: 6%

      Armor penetration: 17 mm

      Firing range: 5,6 km

      HE initial velocity: 811 m/s

Torpedo armament

2х4 533 mm QR Mk IV

       Reload ime: 56 seconds

       Torpedo type: Torped M1943 mod 1
       Damage: 10 700

       Flood chance: 173%
       Speed: 76 knots
       Range: 12,0 km
       Detection range: 1,6 km

AA defense:

4x2 102 mm/45 QF Mk.XVI

4x8 40 mm/39 Vickers QF Mk.VIII

8х2 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II

10x1 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.I

Maximum speed: 32 kts

Turning circle radius: 700 m

Rudder shift time: 7,9 sec

Surface detectability: 11,0 km

Air detectability: 6,5 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Advanced Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Special Repair Party

Slot 3 - Hydroacoustic Search

Slot 4 - Special Main Battery Reload Booster

European cruiser Szczecin, Tier VIII:

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Cruiser project of the 1939s, with the placement of 8 guns of the main caliber 203 mm. Britain built ships for Poland at its shipyards, but if Poland had ordered the cruiser data, it would have received it only by 1947-1950 with modernization for Soviet air defense.

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Displacement: 10 000 t

Plating: 25 mm

Deck: 25 mm

Armor belt: 114 mm

Length: 176,8 m

Hit points: 39 400

Torpedo protection: 10%

Main armament

4x2 203 mm/50 Mk VIII

Reload time: 11,5 sec

Firing range: 16,0 km

180 degree turn time: 22,5 sec

Sigma: 2,0

HE – 203 mm HE 256 lb

     Projectile weight: 116,1 kg

     Max damage: 2850

     Fire Chance: 15%

     Armor penetration: 34 mm

     HE initial velocity: 855 m/s

AP – 203 mm AP 256 lb

     Projectile weight: 116,1 kg

     Max damage: 4550

     AP initial velocity: 855 m/s

Secondary Armament

4x2 113 mm/45 QF Mk.V

      Reload time: 3 sec

      Max Damage: 1 600

      Fire Chance: 7%

      Armor penetration: 19 mm

      Firing range: 6,6 km

      HE initial velocity: 746 m/s

Torpedo armament

2х4 533 mm QR Mk IV

       Reload ime: 56 seconds

       Torpedo type: Torped M1943 mod 1
       Damage: 10 700

       Flood chance: 173%
       Speed: 76 knots
       Range: 12,0 km
       Detection range: 1,6 km

AA defense:

4x2 113 mm/45 QF Mk.V

4x4 45 mm SM-20-ZIF

6х2 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II

8x1 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.I

Maximum speed: 32 kts

Turning circle radius: 720 m

Rudder shift time: 8,4 sec

Surface detectability: 11,6 km

Air detectability: 6,9 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Advanced Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Special Repair Party

Slot 3 - Hydroacoustic Search

Slot 4 - Special Main Battery Reload Booster

European cruiser Koszalin, Tier IX:

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Also a project of the 1939s of Great Britain, transferred to Poland after the Second World War with the deployment of Soviet air defense.

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Displacement: 17 450 t

Plating: 25 mm

Deck: 25 mm

Armor belt: 152 mm

Length: 204,22 m

Hit points: 42 500

Torpedo protection: 17%

Main armament

3x2 234 mm/50 Mk.XII

Reload time: 11,5 sec

Firing range: 16,4 km

180 degree turn time: 22,5 sec

Sigma: 2,05

HE – 234 mm HE 4 CRH

     Projectile weight: 172,4 kg

     Max damage: 3350

     Fire Chance: 21%

     Armor penetration: 39 mm

     HE initial velocity: 841 m/s

AP – 234 mm AP 6 CRH

     Projectile weight: 185,3 kg

     Max damage: 5750

     AP initial velocity: 841 m/s

Secondary Armament

6x2 113 mm/45 QF Mk.V

      Reload time: 3 sec

      Max Damage: 1 600

      Fire Chance: 7%

      Armor penetration: 19 mm

      Firing range: 7 km

      HE initial velocity: 746 m/s

Torpedo armament

2х4 533 mm QR Mk IV

       Reload ime: 56 seconds

       Torpedo type: Torped M1947    
       Damage: 10 700

       Flood chance: 173%
       Speed: 86 knots
       Range: 13,5 km
       Detection range: 1,8 km

AA defense:

4x2 113 mm/45 QF Mk.V

6x4 45 mm SM-20-ZIF

20х2 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II

Maximum speed: 34 kts

Turning circle radius: 720 m

Rudder shift time: 10,5 sec

Surface detectability: 11,8 km

Air detectability: 7,5 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Advanced Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Special Repair Party

Slot 3 - Hydroacoustic Search

Slot 4 - Special Main Battery Reload Booster

Slot 5 - Defensive AA Fire

European cruiser Athína, Tier X:

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At the end of January 1939 Vice-Admiral Alexandros Pilatos Sakellariou of the Royal Hellenic Navy asked the British Naval Attaché Captain Herbert Annesley Packer who forwarded the request to the DNC (Director of Naval Constructions) for a cruiser about 18.000tons displacement 10" main gun armament and high speed to effectively fight the nimble 10.000ton Italian Heavy Cruisers and to keep the Aegean Sea safe.

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Displacement: 19 450 t

Plating: 27 mm

Deck: 27 mm

Armor belt: 203 mm

Length: 205,7 m

Hit points: 55 100

Torpedo protection: 19%

Main armament

3x2 254 mm/50 BL Mk VIII

Reload time: 11 sec

Firing range: 16,9 km

180 degree turn time: 16 sec

Sigma: 2,05

HE – 254 mm HE

     Projectile weight: 244 kg

     Max damage: 3600

     Fire Chance: 27%

     Armor penetration: 42 mm

     HE initial velocity: 810 m/s

AP – 234 mm AP

     Projectile weight: 244 kg

     Max damage: 6350

     AP initial velocity: 810 m/s

Secondary Armament

6x2 113 mm/45 QF Mk.V

      Reload time: 3 sec

      Max Damage: 1 600

      Fire Chance: 7%

      Armor penetration: 19 mm

      Firing range: 7,3 km

      HE initial velocity: 746 m/s

Torpedo armament

2х4 533 mm QR Mk IV

       Reload ime: 60 seconds

       Torpedo type: Torped M1947 mod 1 
       Damage: 10 700

       Flood chance: 173%
       Speed: 86 knots
       Range: 15 km
       Detection range: 1,8 km

AA defense:

4x2 113 mm/45 QF Mk.V

8x6 40 mm/56 OQF Mk.IX

4x2 40 mm/56 OQF Mk.X

12x1 40 mm/56 OQF Mk.III

22х2 20 mm Oerlikon Mk.II

Maximum speed: 34 kts

Turning circle radius: 760 m

Rudder shift time: 11,3 sec

Surface detectability: 12,4 km

Air detectability: 8,9 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Advanced Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Special Repair Party

Slot 3 - Hydroacoustic Search

Slot 4 - Special Main Battery Reload Booster

Slot 5 - Defensive AA Fire

 

This is my personal proposal and not the fact that ships will ever appear in the game or my concept will be taken into attention!

 Thank you for your attention!

Great proposal, but with all respect to you: Wargaming don't give a sh*t about proposals made by the playerbase.

 

So unless you haven't bribed the top brass of WeeGee nothing will be done with any proposals made by you or any other player!

(I refer to the Pan American cruiser proposals made by the playerbase as a great example for that matter).

 

But keep up the good work, amigo. It is appreciated by the forumites.....

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But what happened to your third UK BB line, the hybrid BB-sub, with planes, line?! Have you already abandoned it?!

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I would for the higher tiers for variety  maybe put in one of the Ansaldo projects for the Swedish Navy with 6-283 (3x2) config, also heavy cruisers with 6-210 mm existed for the Swedish navy.

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6 minutes ago, Gnirf said:

I would for the higher tiers for variety  maybe put in one of the Ansaldo projects for the Swedish Navy with 6-283 (3x2) config, also heavy cruisers with 6-210 mm existed for the Swedish navy.

There is a slightly different layout, there is 2x3 and not 3x2, and the guns were 28 cm (11 ") SK C / 34, similar ones are on scharnhorst and gouden leeuw. So such guns, already hackneyed and boring, will look against the background of the Netherlands

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As for the Swedish cruiser - yes, there is the Panzerskepp project, but it did not stand out for its high speed - just a miserable 27 knots

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The higher tiers, theoretically speaking, could go several directions. There's the possibility of either real or WG fake projects, or they could be fictional and/or planned refits and modernisations, or they could be 'modernised' older ships originally built for the major navies.

 

I'd definitely want to see the European tree expanded. Especially Swedish navy.

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14 hours ago, TheKaramelka said:

European cruiser Dragon, Tier IV:

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Was a D- or Danae-class cruiser built for the Royal Navy. She was launched in Glasgow, in December 1917, and scuttled in July 1944 off the Normandy beaches as part of the Arromanches Breakwater

Dragon was given to the Polish Navy back then so the Polish sailors could help fighting the Germans. 

14 hours ago, TheKaramelka said:

European cruiser Baltyc, Tier V:

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To expand the fleet, Poland planned either to create its own cruiser, which would completely copy the French Duguay-Trouin, or to order ships from the UK, which in their characteristics were an actual copy of the Arethusa class: 6700 tons, main caliber 3x2 152 mm, 2x3 533 mm torpedo apparatus

It would be called Bałtyk II. Cause the first Bałtyk was post WW1 French armoured cruiser that was used as coast defence. 

 

Instead of Koszalin at T9 it would be good to have something from Norway? Or Turkey? 

 

Also Conrad would be a modernized Danae at T5 as a premium. 

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14 hours ago, Gnirf said:

would for the higher tiers for variety  maybe put in one of the Ansaldo projects for the Swedish Navy with 6-283 (3x2) config,

This one could also be a premium maybe T7? With a slightly faster reload than Graf Spee. 

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