How are you going to setup your Renown44?

[ReverendFlashback]

I've been toying around a bit with fitting tool and I'm quite uncertain what to do when I get mine.

It's closest relative seems to be Rooke which I didn't play so far, but I've got the idea by looking at both ships values.

Basically use your great concealment and speed to get to unexpected angles and try to catch some broadsides.

In a pinch you can also yolo someone because of torps.

The thing is: What does Renown 44 have over Rooke for that sneaky playstyle?

The answer: Not much. A better turning radius and (way) better sigma.

In every other aspect Rooke seems better for that.

Renown, however, has twice the ammount of fish (with 2km more range iirc), drastically improved secondaries and hydro.

Those secs are easily and by far the best you get on any T7 bb for fire starting. But their pen is actually very low.

It seems kinda weird, but to me it looks like this is a battleship that excels at hunting it's natural enemies: Dds.

 

The problem is getting the secondaries up to usefulness because their range utterly sucks and it's quite costly.

Even assuming a 21 point commander (which I don't actually have) I always run out of skill points while theory crafting.

 

Would like to try something like this:

https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PBSB547&modules=11111&upgrades=122200&commander=PCW001&skills=13132034&ar=100&flags=130&consumables=1111&pos=0

 

But eh, no grease the gears on this ship, no improved heal, no basics of survivability...

And then secondary range is still pretty bad even with flag.

Most likely I'm not going to use manual secondaries and get something else instead...

 

But what will you do once you got her?

[KillStealBoss]

Same as Vincent commander and other British battlecruisers. 

[Lord0]

Is it a gift or something? 

[fumtu]

22 minutes ago, Lord0 said:

Is it a gift or something? 

 

It is award in Dockyard, when you reach 19th stage. It could be obtained for free if you are doing missions.

[ReverendFlashback]

28 minutes ago, KillStealBoss said:

Same as Vincent commander and other British battlecruisers. 

And this means?

I've not played that line yet.

[Lord0]

7 minutes ago, fumtu said:

 

It is award in Dockyard, when you reach 19th stage. It could be obtained for free if you are doing missions.

Sweet. Cheers mate and Merry Christmas!

[MadBadDave]

Don’t care haven’t done Dockyard since getting D7P, not aiming for either of the 2 pointless botes. 

[22cm]

This is the secondary setup I would do for it:

 

https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PBSB547&modules=11111&upgrades=142100&commander=PBW101&skills=13131856&ar=100&flags=1410&consumables=1111&pos=0

 

The tech tree ship, Rooke, set for secondary looks better because it has 28 secondary guns compared with 20 for Renown44:

 

https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PBSB207&modules=12121&upgrades=212100&commander=PBW100&skills=13132304&ar=100&flags=1410&consumables=1111&pos=0

 

The classic T7 secondary premium BB, Scharnhorst, has 1 km longer range secondaries with much better pen, but also 1 km bigger concealment. However, it has better brawling armor scheme:

 

https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PGSB507&modules=11111&upgrades=212100&commander=PGW103&skills=13132304&ar=100&flags=1410&consumables=111&pos=0

 

It could work, the 4 single-launch torps can be launched in a harder to avoid pattern, but not as well as the Germans, and you should still angle when brawling, because you dont have the German armor and turtleback.

 

 

 

 

[KillStealBoss]

3 hours ago, MadBadDave said:

Don’t care haven’t done Dockyard since getting D7P, not aiming for either of the 2 pointless botes. 

It's on 19th stage so it'll be free even if you don't invest into it a penny. And it's a good ship, with decent torp range and accurate guns. You do you, better to get it now than in next year Santa crate instead of a T8 or 9. 

[_Keiban_]

Vor 6 Stunden, ReverendFlashback sagte:

The problem is getting the secondaries up to usefulness because their range utterly sucks and it's quite costly.

Even assuming a 21 point commander (which I don't actually have) I always run out of skill points while theory crafting.

so, why bother? You still end up with a measly 8.5km range and can only pen DDs...

Just go with a standard BB build, maybe include Brisk and be done.

[22cm]

7 minutes ago, _Keiban_ said:

so, why bother? You still end up with a measly 8.5km range and can only pen DDs...

Just go with a standard BB build, maybe include Brisk and be done.

It can still pen the superstructure of BBs, some parts of heavy cruisers and completely light cruiser and DDs.

 

[ReverendFlashback]

15 minutes ago, _Keiban_ said:

so, why bother? You still end up with a measly 8.5km range and can only pen DDs...

Just go with a standard BB build, maybe include Brisk and be done.

Because of what 22cm said.

And I think good secondaries are a feature of this ship and I want to capitalize on it.

I mean a standard bb build is pretty much usable on anything, but if you want to get the most out of it you should at least partially spec in secondaries and get their range up.

[J0tt]

I just slot the standard modules according to the Google document and play it once for the snowflake. After that it will be buried until anniversary like all the other 'boring' ships. Not worth theorycrafting at all.

[ReverendFlashback]

4 minutes ago, J0tt said:

I just slot the standard modules according to the Google document and play it once for the snowflake. After that it will be buried until anniversary like all the other 'boring' ships. Not worth theorycrafting at all.

Not sure what you're expecting from a bb to not be boring then.

It has hydro, engine boost, usable secondaries, torps, great concealment and speed.

Or in other words, a lot of stuff to work and have fun with...

[J0tt]

Vor 21 Minuten, ReverendFlashback sagte:

Not sure what you're expecting from a bb to not be boring then.

It has hydro, engine boost, usable secondaries, torps, great concealment and speed.

Or in other words, a lot of stuff to work and have fun with...

 

I should have clarified: It's not worth theorycrafting for me because it's T7. I'm glad I'm out of there.

[invicta2012]

13 hours ago, ReverendFlashback said:

Not sure what you're expecting from a bb to not be boring then.

It has hydro, engine boost, usable secondaries, torps, great concealment and speed.

Or in other words, a lot of stuff to work and have fun with...

Renown 44 is a classic dockyard makeweight. It's too big and has the wrong armour scheme for brawling. Its secondaries and torpedoes are a noob trap, and it doesn't have enough guns of a high enough calibre to give satisfying results with the main battery. Perhaps the BC line gets better at VIII/IX/X, but there's nothing worth keeping in the mid-tiers.

[ReverendFlashback]

27 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

Renown 44 is a classic dockyard makeweight. It's too big and has the wrong armour scheme for brawling. Its secondaries and torpedoes are a noob trap, and it doesn't have enough guns of a high enough calibre to give satisfying results with the main battery. Perhaps the BC line gets better at VIII/IX/X, but there's nothing worth keeping in the mid-tiers.

Yeah, well, whatever. I'm still excited to get it.

I also think you're looking at it from a wrong perspective, because it sounds like you're expecting some german like bb while this is rather a super cruiser made for AP slinging.

[invicta2012]

1 hour ago, ReverendFlashback said:

Yeah, well, whatever. I'm still excited to get it.

I hope you enjoy it. :)

 

1 hour ago, ReverendFlashback said:

I also think you're looking at it from a wrong perspective, because it sounds like you're expecting some german like bb while this is rather a super cruiser made for AP slinging.

The problem is that I already have French Battleships for that sort of thing, and that British BBs are generally disappointing and substandard in comparison.