[R-M] Isoruku_Yamamoto Players 1,437 posts 16,247 battles Report post #1 Posted December 23, 2022 So i have opened a few too many mega boxes and got various ships. Not exactly blow away by the results, but i was straightout disappointed with one- and im kind of curious for a WG statement tbh. I got a Massachusetts, rare category. Amazing right? Right... Until you know that i already owned massachussetts B. That all of a sudden makes this rare drop one of the worst drops possible. To make things worse, the same happened with Sims. Can you please start grouping these ships? Im seriously disappointed with that drop. 7 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2 Posted December 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Isoruku_Yamamoto said: So i have opened a few too many mega boxes and got various ships. Not exactly blow away by the results, but i was straightout disappointed with one- and im kind of curious for a WG statement tbh. I got a Massachusetts, rare category. Amazing right? Right... Until you know that i already owned massachussetts B. That all of a sudden makes this rare drop one of the worst drops possible. To make things worse, the same happened with Sims. Can you please start grouping these ships? Im seriously disappointed with that drop. Massa is a great ship. Take a look at your missions, maybe you got one for Massa to get Dubloons 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,366 battles Report post #3 Posted December 23, 2022 2500 Doubloons for free why complain 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ROUGH] Yamashiro42 Players 1,065 posts 26,558 battles Report post #4 Posted December 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Isoruku_Yamamoto said: So i have opened a few too many mega boxes and got various ships. Not exactly blow away by the results, but i was straightout disappointed with one- and im kind of curious for a WG statement tbh. I got a Massachusetts, rare category. Amazing right? Right... Until you know that i already owned massachussetts B. That all of a sudden makes this rare drop one of the worst drops possible. To make things worse, the same happened with Sims. Can you please start grouping these ships? Im seriously disappointed with that drop. I had EXACTLY the same situation one year ago. Massa B from 2020 Black Friday event, and then regular Massa from 2021 Santa box, so not even the doubloon mission (as the regular Massa did not come the same year as the black one). And Masa is not a ship that you want to have built two different ways (unlike my Atago and Atago B). This year I have got similar situation, Dunkerque B in 2021, now regular Dunkerque from one of the Magaboxes that I got for the tier 10 ship certificates. So again no doubloons... Merry Christmas to all of you, guys! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ROUGH] Yamashiro42 Players 1,065 posts 26,558 battles Report post #5 Posted December 24, 2022 8 hours ago, hgbn_dk said: 2500 Doubloons for free why complain There is no doubloon mission if you dont get the regular ship within weeks from the black one, or if you did not already have it before the black one. So unless he got his Massa B this year, there is no compensation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #6 Posted December 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Yamashiro42 said: There is no doubloon mission if you dont get the regular ship within weeks from the black one, or if you did not already have it before the black one. So unless he got his Massa B this year, there is no compensation. Yeah this one should be changed. So if you get the regular Massa having Massa B - you get the mission. No matter how long time ago Black Friday was. But when WG will implement that or if they'll do it at all... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hypsar Players 287 posts Report post #7 Posted December 24, 2022 that is why i never bought any black ships or containers ... considering how client friendly lesta is i wouldn't be surprised if this weren't scripted 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #8 Posted December 24, 2022 9 hours ago, Isoruku_Yamamoto said: So i have opened a few too many mega boxes and got various ships. Not exactly blow away by the results, but i was straightout disappointed with one- and im kind of curious for a WG statement tbh. I got a Massachusetts, rare category. Amazing right? Right... Until you know that i already owned massachussetts B. That all of a sudden makes this rare drop one of the worst drops possible. To make things worse, the same happened with Sims. Can you please start grouping these ships? Im seriously disappointed with that drop. Dissapointment and frustration is the large part of any gambling operation's business model. They will only adress the enviroment and circumstances in which you gamble, but won't adress the core emotions they milk. Ever. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #9 Posted December 24, 2022 This is all according to plan. Black ships are duplicates to make you pay twice, one way or the other. Similarly, rare ships contain a lot of fluff, so that they are not so rare. Who wants a Hizen as a rare drop? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #10 Posted December 24, 2022 51 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said: Who wants a Hizen as a rare drop? Yeah this one needs buffs imho, reload and additional heal charge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #11 Posted December 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, KillStealBoss said: Yeah this one needs buffs imho, reload and additional heal charge. Maybe in conjunction with a 10% reload nerf for all BBs, as we have way too many of these in the first place. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF] meuhbat Players 317 posts 3,636 battles Report post #12 Posted December 24, 2022 Imo you have to choose, either get black containers or santa crates but not both as you will get many duplicates over time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #13 Posted December 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said: Maybe in conjunction with a 10% reload nerf for all BBs, as we have way too many of these in the first place. Well the USN slow BBs at least have some decent sigma. Hizen has bad reload + bad sigma (same as Kii) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #14 Posted December 24, 2022 Bro, I got a submarine (and hizen). 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DK-MK] Varian_Dorn Players 804 posts 19,917 battles Report post #15 Posted December 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Yamashiro42 said: There is no doubloon mission if you dont get the regular ship within weeks from the black one, or if you did not already have it before the black one. So unless he got his Massa B this year, there is no compensation. 3 hours ago, KillStealBoss said: Yeah this one should be changed. So if you get the regular Massa having Massa B - you get the mission. No matter how long time ago Black Friday was. But when WG will implement that or if they'll do it at all... To correct you both here (https://worldofwarships.eu/en/content/everything-about-black-friday-2022/): A special combat mission will become available for Captains who fulfill one of the following conditions from the start of Update 0.11.10 until the end of 2022: Obtain a Black Friday 2022 event ship while possessing the standard version of that ship. Obtain both a Black Friday 2022 event ship and her standard version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DK-MK] Varian_Dorn Players 804 posts 19,917 battles Report post #16 Posted December 24, 2022 12 hours ago, Isoruku_Yamamoto said: So i have opened a few too many mega boxes and got various ships. Not exactly blow away by the results, but i was straightout disappointed with one- and im kind of curious for a WG statement tbh. I got a Massachusetts, rare category. Amazing right? Right... Until you know that i already owned massachussetts B. That all of a sudden makes this rare drop one of the worst drops possible. To make things worse, the same happened with Sims. Can you please start grouping these ships? Im seriously disappointed with that drop. Recommend you check for the special mission that rewards you 2500 dubs for this "worst possible rare drop" And if its really the same deal with Sims you might wanna look for her special mission as well - I think this one is 1500 dubs. Besides every ship you have can´t drop again, so technically there is no "bad" ship drop. Even if you just keep them in your port and practically never use them the presence of each ship eliminates it from the drop list for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #17 Posted December 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, Varian_Dorn said: To correct you both here (https://worldofwarships.eu/en/content/everything-about-black-friday-2022/): A special combat mission will become available for Captains who fulfill one of the following conditions from the start of Update 0.11.10 until the end of 2022: Obtain a Black Friday 2022 event ship while possessing the standard version of that ship. Obtain both a Black Friday 2022 event ship and her standard version. The question is - are they taking about the mission duration or the time when you can get such one? Edit : I got my answer. "The special combat missions will be unlockable with the release of Update 0.11.10 and continue to be unlockable until: Sun. 01 Jan. 02:00 CET (UTC+1) / your local time: Sun. 01 Jan. 03:00" What I said that such mission should be unlocked no n matter the timing. So if he could get regular Massa even after 3-4 months from SC - it should trigger the mission. Unfortunately that's not the case, it's limited to the end of 2022. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,366 battles Report post #18 Posted December 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Yamashiro42 said: There is no doubloon mission if you dont get the regular ship within weeks from the black one, or if you did not already have it before the black one. So unless he got his Massa B this year, there is no compensation. Well I got Chaklov in a santa crate and got the mission since I alredy had the B 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CZWSM] Max_Kammerer Players 483 posts 26,013 battles Report post #19 Posted December 24, 2022 I absolutely don't play and hate aircraft carriers and that's why in recent years I got all possible premium or special CVs :) (Immelmann, Malta, Zeppelin, Indomitable, Ark Royal, Bearn...) :D 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ROUGH] Yamashiro42 Players 1,065 posts 26,558 battles Report post #20 Posted December 24, 2022 1 hour ago, hgbn_dk said: Well I got Chaklov in a santa crate and got the mission since I alredy had the B Yes, because you got the black variant during this year Black Friday event. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,366 battles Report post #21 Posted December 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Yamashiro42 said: Yes, because you got the black variant during this year Black Friday event. Proof please! I can find find any place where its written 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] HMS_Kilinowski [THESO] Players 2,665 posts 25,501 battles Report post #22 Posted December 24, 2022 Personally, I am not delighted with Dockyard ships being declared "rare". The reason why many poepl don't have them in port is that most of them were unappealing even at the comparatively low dockyard price. I skipped Hizen, Marlboro, Puerto Rico and De Seven Provincien. In hindsight I wish I had skipped Anchorage and I could life without regret if I didn't get the Odin, ZF-6 and Schröder. None of these ships has anything rare about it. The reason they are not available for purchae in doubloons is utterly arbitrary, maybe to give its owners a false sentiment of rarity. Rare ships are supposed to shine in quality, which none of these ships does. WG just classified those ships as rare, so they can deny the dearly paying customers any of the ships they gamble for, so they come back next year and try again. Oh boy, what a casino, clothed as a ship game, this operation has become. 6 hours ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said: Maybe in conjunction with a 10% reload nerf for all BBs, as we have way too many of these in the first place. Please don't touch my prey. We all prey on the weak feeling strong and secure behind their armor and HP-pool. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #23 Posted December 24, 2022 15 hours ago, Isoruku_Yamamoto said: So i have opened a few too many mega boxes and got various ships. Not exactly blow away by the results, but i was straightout disappointed with one- and im kind of curious for a WG statement tbh. I got a Massachusetts, rare category. Amazing right? Right... Until you know that i already owned massachussetts B. That all of a sudden makes this rare drop one of the worst drops possible. To make things worse, the same happened with Sims. Can you please start grouping these ships? Im seriously disappointed with that drop. Well, you've paid to get yourself scammed, so everything looks fine to me? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #24 Posted December 24, 2022 Same thing happened to me. I bought Mass B when it could be bought, and then I got the normal one in a Santa crate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SUOLA] arttuperkunas Players 1,963 posts 10,936 battles Report post #25 Posted December 24, 2022 34 minutes ago, HMS_Kilinowski said: Personally, I am not delighted with Dockyard ships being declared "rare". The reason why many poepl don't have them in port is that most of them were unappealing even at the comparatively low dockyard price. I skipped Hizen, Marlboro, Puerto Rico and De Seven Provincien. In hindsight I wish I had skipped Anchorage and I could life without regret if I didn't get the Odin, ZF-6 and Schröder. None of these ships has anything rare about it. The reason they are not available for purchae in doubloons is utterly arbitrary, maybe to give its owners a false sentiment of rarity. Rare ships are supposed to shine in quality, which none of these ships does. WG just classified those ships as rare, so they can deny the dearly paying customers any of the ships they gamble for, so they come back next year and try again. Oh boy, what a casino clothed as a ship game this operation has become. Please don't touch my prey. We all prey on the weak feeling strong and secure behind their armor and HP-pool. Anchorage was unique when it launched… usn high tier heavy cruiser with smoke and torpedoes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites