A different idea of US staff from EU staff?

[uocat]

So "Vergessen Sie's" ???????

[Mindfulcrane07]

So "Vergessen Sie's" ???????

 

at the end of the month interesting

[Ammboz]

Yah. Well. EU Staff has so much to do so they can't answer as fast as they want to.

Well. I hope. At least they allways say so. So.

ah, nvm.

[Deamon93]

WGNA has said multiple times 0.3.1 would come soon^tm but it took a while to be implemented. Take what they say as a grain of salt since who has the last word on this regard is the Lesta Team(the devs).

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

Why u guys so rush , for sure OB will not be this or next month, when WG will be sure all bugs fixed and ready to go in OB they will

 

[Pawndemonium]

Next week is feasible to assume, there will be a new run for the public test today at 2000 CEST (UTC+2).

So even without considering any official posts, they apparently have plans, as they are sort of in a hurry... .p

[JeeWeeJ]

Why u guys so rush , for sure OB will not be this or next month, when WG will be sure all bugs fixed and ready to go in OB they will

 

Care to supply a source for that? I do not recall the fine folks of WGEU stating anything of the sort? 

[SBS]

I highly doubt we will see OBT at end of june. There is simply too much that still need doing. I would be highly surprised if it this soon.

[Sputnik421]

This is WG. WoT still has loads of bugs and how long has that been in OB, and still no sign of v1.0.0 for that game yet.

[Asgeirifier]

This is WG. WoT still has loads of bugs and how long has that been in OB, and still no sign of v1.0.0 for that game yet.

 

WoT went gold yeas ago. The "no 1.0" is just their way of numbering versions. But on topic, interesting news.

[Ectar_]

This is WG. WoT still has loads of bugs and how long has that been in OB, and still no sign of v1.0.0 for that game yet.

 

Patch numbers don't always indicate the difference between a beta and a release. We could number a patch 0.5 the next one 0.8 and then the next one 2.0. Alternatively we could call an update "Lollypop" and the next one Ice Cream Sandwich"  The numbering/naming is an internal tracker, nothing more.  

 

There is no universal rule for any games which means you can't be a release patch unless your patch number is 1."something"

[Nephilimer]

 

Patch numbers don't always indicate the difference between a beta and a release. We could number a patch 0.5 the next one 0.8 and then the next one 2.0. Alternatively we could call an update "Lollypop" and the next one Ice Cream Sandwich"  The numbering/naming is an internal tracker, nothing more.  

 

There is no universal rule for any games which means you can't be a release patch unless your patch number is 1."something"

 

Names of phases don't always indicate the difference. You named next stage Open Beta. Open Beta where:

 

- there will be not any more wipes

- beta gold disapears

- we have plenty of way to spend a money to play

 

Sounds like release version. Dunno why u cheating people about open beta phase, when we dont test anything here (even stats) and you trying to sell this game asap. You force open beta to drain wallets fo players, regardless of number of serious problem with game stability, mostly about game freezes, crashes and server desync/lag due to keep WoWS on EU2 World of Tanks server.

 

Just stop cheat us.

 

There is no universal rule for any game which means you can't be release patch unless develepoers try to call it "Open Beta".

[JeeWeeJ]

- there will be not any more wipes

- beta gold disapears

- we have plenty of way to spend a money to play

 

Sounds like release version. Dunno why u cheating people about open beta phase, when we dont test anything here (even stats) and you trying to sell this game asap. You force open beta to drain wallets fo players, regardless of number of serious problem with game stability, mostly about game freezes, crashes and server desync/lag due to keep WoWS on EU2 World of Tanks server.

 

Wow, assumption-a-gogo! With most of it wrong actually...

1. WG has never confirmed that there will be no wipe, they INTEND not to have one, but if it's needed for whatever reason there will be a wipe between OBT and GO-LIVE.

2. Anything you buy with real money will be reimbursed in the case of a wipe. Did you pay for gold or ships in CBT? Then you shall get it back when OBT starts. IF there is a wipe between OBT and GO-LIVE, its safe to assume that anything you paid for, will be resupplied to your account after the wipe.

3. Yes, due to popular demand you can already spend money on the game to get access to the CBT. For the rest, see #2

4. "not testing anything" I'm afraid you're wrong there. Even by not focus testing anything, just generating server stats is a form of testing in itself. Game balancing is done through the use of statistics and these statistics generated by players. If you want to focus test patches, you can always apply for the position of supertester when recruitment is reopened.

5. "Force players to open wallet" - nobody is forcing you anything, you can choose to spend money to get CBT access (if you didn't get it through the conventional means), or you can wait for OBT to start. Your choice.

6. "Serious problems" I guess you missed the word "TEST" in the "Closed Beta Test" name of the phase we're currently in? It's a work in progress, and is advertised as such. To assume this is a finished product would be the fault of the one making the assumption, not Wargaming. And, no, I'm not denying that the game still has problems, it's just that it is to be expected given the phase we're in.

[Mindfulcrane07]

 

Wow, assumption-a-gogo! With most of it wrong actually...

1. WG has never confirmed that there will be no wipe, they INTEND not to have one, but if it's needed for whatever reason there will be a wipe between OBT and GO-LIVE.

2. Anything you buy with real money will be reimbursed in the case of a wipe. Did you pay for gold or ships in CBT? Then you shall get it back when OBT starts. IF there is a wipe between OBT and GO-LIVE, its safe to assume that anything you paid for, will be resupplied to your account after the wipe.

3. Yes, due to popular demand you can already spend money on the game to get access to the CBT. For the rest, see #2

4. "not testing anything" I'm afraid you're wrong there. Even by not focus testing anything, just generating server stats is a form of testing in itself. Game balancing is done through the use of statistics and these statistics generated by players. If you want to focus test patches, you can always apply for the position of supertester when recruitment is reopened.

5. "Force players to open wallet" - nobody is forcing you anything, you can choose to spend money to get CBT access (if you didn't get it through the conventional means), or you can wait for OBT to start. Your choice.

6. "Serious problems" I guess you missed the word "TEST" in the "Closed Beta Test" name of the phase we're currently in? It's a work in progress, and is advertised as such. To assume this is a finished product would be the fault of the one making the assumption, not Wargaming. And, no, I'm not denying that the game still has problems, it's just that it is to be expected given the phase we're in.

 

i dont see why anyone would neg rep that...

[Nephilimer]

1. Check RU forum,

2. I know, but this is not he case in spending money in game.

4. Check RU forum. Our server stats have same role as our feedback

5. Check economic changes on 0.4.

6.  Game is close to stage when it will be delivered to customer.

 

I understand your dissapoitment, when you are coordinator of nothing, but still

[Mindfulcrane07]

1. Check RU forum,

2. I know, but this is not he case in spending money in game.

4. Check RU forum. Our server stats have same role as our feedback

5. Check economic changes on 0.4.

6.  Game is close to stage when it will be delivered to customer.

 

I understand your dissapoitment, when you are coordinator of nothing, but still

 

"coordinator of nothing"? i am afraid you have no clue what so ever what you are talking about there...

[Nephilimer]

 

"coordinator of nothing"? i am afraid you have no clue what so ever what you are talking about there...

 

As a Alpha tester of 3 WG products (WoT, WoWP, WOWS) and Supertester of WoT I know difference between RU and EU supertest. Im afraid but I have supertesters of WoWS in clan and there were so suprised when official informations from RU server were suprising for them and unable to get without claiming NDA on EU.

 

Of course you will rant about this, because are just proud to be a part of "supertest" but remember about facts. Real test is RU test. It's clear to anyone who have any idea about what kind of information is avaliable here.

[KurumizawaR]

 mh seems like open beta really is very close, if even a wargaming community manager says end of the month

as Pawndemonium pointed already out, that would also explain those 0.4.0 public test server, which then came twice already (in a short amount of time)

 

Next week is feasible to assume, there will be a new run for the public test today at 2000 CEST (UTC+2).

So even without considering any official posts, they apparently have plans, as they are sort of in a hurry... .p

 

 

[Tasfalto]

Call Lollypops patches is not a bad idea

 

[JeeWeeJ]

 

As a Alpha tester of 3 WG products (WoT, WoWP, WOWS) and Supertester of WoT I know difference between RU and EU supertest. Im afraid but I have supertesters of WoWS in clan and there were so suprised when official informations from RU server were suprising for them and unable to get without claiming NDA on EU.

 

Of course you will rant about this, because are just proud to be a part of "supertest" but remember about facts. Real test is RU test. It's clear to anyone who have any idea about what kind of information is avaliable here.

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Sure, RU gets info before the other regions do, it's to be expected when the devs are in Russia even though I seriously doubt that beta testers get patchnotes before they get supertested. But does that matter? When we're asked to test X, we shall test X and provide feedback and bugreports on X. That's the job of a supertester. No more, no less. And I know for a fact (well, the red names in feedback threads to be more precise) that the RU devs read said feedback and bug reports.

 

I also know for a fact that the active core of the EU supertest group is having good fun and provide good feedback on the things we test. If it all were useless I'm sure that group would've died out loooong ago. Again, if you think we're doing stuff the wrong way: feel free to apply to supertest when recruitment reopens and help improve it. 

[panda_k]

"Однако для активных участников тестирования предусмотрены специальные подарки:

• Уровень аккаунта пользователя будет повышен в зависимости от числа сыгранных боев
• Сигнальные флаги пользователя будут частично восстановлены в зависимости от числа сыгранных боев
• Игрокам на старте ОБТ уже будут доступны 2 опытных командира, с определенным количеством свободных для распределения очков навыков"

 

 

its true ?

[Nephilimer]

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Sure, RU gets info before the other regions do, it's to be expected when the devs are in Russia even though I seriously doubt that beta testers get patchnotes before they get supertested. But does that matter? When we're asked to test X, we shall test X and provide feedback and bugreports on X. That's the job of a supertester no more, no less. An I know for a fact (well, the red names in feedback threads to be more precise) that the RU devs read said feedback and bug reports.

 

I also know for a fact that the active core of the EU supertest group is having good fun and provide good feedback on the things we test. If it all were useless I'm sure that group would've died out loooong ago. Again, if you think we're doing stuff the wrong way: feel free to apply to supertest when recruitment reopens and help improve it. 

 

When WG will shut down EU Supertest (same as in WoT, where WG claims EU testers for leaks) I will drink some tea and I will read this words again. Maybe it wont happen, but still thinking "our feedback is mportant because someone told it" is adorable :> 

 

I dont want to apply to ST, because I dont have time to spending it for nothing. Im focused on providing game info and organizing tournaments for players. 

[WhiskeyWolf]

its true ?

 

In before: "We don't confirm or deny anything."

[Ectar_]

 

 

Names of phases don't always indicate the difference. You named next stage Open Beta. Open Beta where:

 

- there will be not any more wipes

- beta gold disapears

- we have plenty of way to spend a money to play

 

Sounds like release version. Dunno why u cheating people about open beta phase, when we dont test anything here (even stats) and you trying to sell this game asap. You force open beta to drain wallets fo players, regardless of number of serious problem with game stability, mostly about game freezes, crashes and server desync/lag due to keep WoWS on EU2 World of Tanks server.

 

Just stop cheat us.

 

There is no universal rule for any game which means you can't be release patch unless develepoers try to call it "Open Beta".

 

Open beta in free to play games differs from "boxed games" because at the open beta stage it's available to everyone.  Most games don't do open beta, they have either closed beta with NDA restrictions or closed beta without NDA restrictions that have limited access (hence the "closed" part of it). An open beta is usually a final stage with either a release candidate or pre-release candidate that is opened up for stress testing and to gather final numbers from a larger audience.

 

When a free to play game goes to "open beta" it's essentially a soft release because the game is then available to every single player at no cost. The entire game content currently available is open to players, it's not like we just go to OBT with tier 1 and 2.  There is no buy-in, there is no pre-purchase required and there is no "If you want to play this later, it will cost you".  In OBT you don't have to spend a penny if you don't want to. Our game is free to play and it can be enjoyed by players, for free for however long they want.

 

Now regarding the date for OBT... I will say now what I always advise players. - Until there is an official announcement on the portals, don't take any messages as confirmation.  If the source is a WG employee then it's possibly correct, however if only 1 person says something which you'd expect to be common knowledge, then perhaps wait until a more formal announcement is made.

 

Advising players of major info like OBT dates is something that would require a post on our portal. I appreciate that some of you would like to know information ahead of time, and I also appreciate that some of you will say "But on this forum it says here....".  I have to point out however that no region has yet published any official portal articles yet to confirm dates.   When we're ready to let players know, you'll know and there won't be any speculation.

 

 

As a Alpha tester of 3 WG products (WoT, WoWP, WOWS) and Supertester of WoT I know difference between RU and EU supertest. Im afraid but I have supertesters of WoWS in clan and there were so suprised when official informations from RU server were suprising for them and unable to get without claiming NDA on EU.

 

Of course you will rant about this, because are just proud to be a part of "supertest" but remember about facts. Real test is RU test. It's clear to anyone who have any idea about what kind of information is avaliable here.

 

EU players have the same info as RU testers. You're not testing anything different. The difference is that EU players appreciate the NDA and understand they're not supposed to talk about things they shouldn't. I suggest you drop this topic immediately with regarding to trying to compare regions and what's available as everyone can see how well the RU WoT supertest is at keeping information internal.  The entire point of the supertest is that you're testing something which isn't supposed to be known to the public and when it is to be known to the public it's for WG to announce that, not you.

 

Please don't pretend that you're testing something different to other regions. Supertests across all regions test the same content, the only difference is that some regions know not to talk about that content till it moves to public test. I can also 100% confirm that feedback is not just based on the RU test, especially when the RU test isn't necessarily the most populated servers or had the most concurrent players.

 

I will not stand for any cross region flaming on these forums or baiting.  The "we know more than you do" comments are petty they're not appreciated and players trying to wind up other regions will be shut down hard and their forum posting rights here will be removed.

 

 

When WG will shut down EU Supertest (same as in WoT, where WG claims EU testers for leaks) I will drink some tea and I will read this words again. Maybe it wont happen, but still thinking "our feedback is mportant because someone told it" is adorable :> 

 

You'll have a long time to wait for that cup of tea. 

[Mindfulcrane07]

 

When WG will shut down EU Supertest (same as in WoT, where WG claims EU testers for leaks) I will drink some tea and I will read this words again. Maybe it wont happen, but still thinking "our feedback is mportant because someone told it" is adorable :> 

 

I dont want to apply to ST, because I dont have time to spending it for nothing. Im focused on providing game info and organizing tournaments for players. 

it seems you did not get what he said