[WCWVE] pzkpfwv1d Players 1,122 posts 20,370 battles Report post #26 Posted December 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, MoveZig said: About 73 premium + special ships out of 171 currently owned ships (would be over 200 if I could pony up all the creds for researched ships). I bought maybe 10-13 of them with real money one way or another. Try going to inventory and selling stock modules (will give you more credits and if you have researched and mounted the higher modules you do not need the stock modules) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #27 Posted December 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, pzkpfwv1d said: ... if you have researched and mounted the higher modules you do not need the stock modules With one exception :- Mogami's stock guns. Don't sell them if you want to be able to try both flavours (155mm or 203mm) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #28 Posted December 23, 2022 51 premiums + 9 specials (excluding IJN CLs which are in a test phase) out of 223 total ships. Of the premiums I've probably spent £ to obtain around 8 or 9 of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCWVE] pzkpfwv1d Players 1,122 posts 20,370 battles Report post #29 Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, NewHorizons_1 said: With one exception :- Mogami's stock guns. Don't sell them if you want to be able to try both flavours (155mm or 203mm) I only use the 6.1 inch guns on Mogami, better DPM, researched higher but never fitted them 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] MrWastee Players 4,255 posts 33,584 battles Report post #30 Posted December 23, 2022 not a single one!!11!11!1!!! .... i just get payed to captn them ... oh, wait 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SYD] Molly_Delaney Players 1,200 posts 4,600 battles Report post #31 Posted December 23, 2022 185 premiums out of 311 total ships.... is that a lot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CUP2D] CptnSamuel Players 79 posts 2,789 battles Report post #32 Posted December 23, 2022 98 premium ships in port right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #33 Posted December 23, 2022 T10s arent premiums, they are special ships I don't know how much I actually own. Cause I sell them during regrinds sometimes. When times are hard. I do know that at most I only have like 5 non golden name ships most of the time. Currently 8 due regrind. rest of 100 are premiums, early acces ships or special ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #34 Posted December 23, 2022 3 hours ago, 22cm said: A premium ship is in theory the ship that can use any captain and has no researchable modules. For example when Thunderer and GK became premium ships they lost the dual gun option, that was researchable. So special T10 ships also qualify as premium. Nah. The premium has baked in another credit bonus. Which T10s don't. T10s are special ships, they have the same credit and exp income as techtree ones with perma bonuses. The only difference is that you can use any commander without restrictions. Premiums have that + better credit income. If you would say that T10s are also premiums then my premium ship count would be close to 300... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #35 Posted December 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Milfious said: Cause I sell them during regrinds sometimes. What has a premium ship to do with a regrind? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCWVE] pzkpfwv1d Players 1,122 posts 20,370 battles Report post #36 Posted December 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, KillStealBoss said: Nah. The premium has baked in another credit bonus. Which T10s don't. T10s are special ships, they have the same credit and exp income as techtree ones with perma bonuses. The only difference is that you can use any commander without restrictions. Premiums have that + better credit income. If you would say that T10s are also premiums then my premium ship count would be close to 300... Certain T10 ships are premium ships, such as Grosser Kurfurst and Moskva Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #37 Posted December 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, pzkpfwv1d said: Certain T10 ships are premium ships, such as Grosser Kurfurst and Moskva No dude. There's no difference in income between a GK and Preusen with perma bonuses on it. The only difference is free commander movement without any restrictions. Moskva and GK income netto is above T7 premiums but less than T8 premiums. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #38 Posted December 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, KillStealBoss said: What has a premium ship to do with a regrind? 8-12 mil it can give me when i dont feel like grinding ranked or randoms for hours on end ontop of regrinding. I get them back later. for the added 20% fee. Then sell them again later. Then get them back by paying more again. I might have premium time. but i swap modules alot when not regrinding gets kinda pricey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ED-S] Prva_paroplavebna Players 8 posts 1,463 battles Report post #39 Posted December 23, 2022 Only 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #40 Posted December 23, 2022 16 hours ago, pzkpfwv1d said: Just for fun, how many premium ships does one own and what percentage of your total fleet are comprised of premium ships I have 195 premium ships in port which 40.12% of my 486 total ships I have way, way fewer then you do, and I joined at around the same time as you did. I have only 102 real premiums plus 3 abominations which claim to be "Premium" which dropped from Satan Crates. I rarely play anything other than premiums, in fact, since I am glad to see the back of most tech tree ships after grinding them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #41 Posted December 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Admiral_H_Nelson said: I have way, way fewer then you do, and I joined at around the same time as you did. I have only 102 real premiums plus 3 abominations which claim to be "Premium" which dropped from Satan Crates. I rarely play anything other than premiums, in fact, since I am glad to see the back of most tech tree ships after grinding them. Marblehead? Kirov? Krysnykrym? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCWVE] pzkpfwv1d Players 1,122 posts 20,370 battles Report post #42 Posted December 23, 2022 39 minutes ago, KillStealBoss said: No dude. There's no difference in income between a GK and Preusen with perma bonuses on it. The only difference is free commander movement without any restrictions. Moskva and GK income netto is above T7 premiums but less than T8 premiums. Wargaming has said that both GK and Moskva are premium ships, hence they are classed as premium ships in the Captain's Cabin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estaca_de_Bares Players 1,534 posts 25,837 battles Report post #43 Posted December 23, 2022 So far, 79 premiums and 8 specials (not counting the IJN CLs for they'll eventually lose such status) out of 202 ships. The numbers might vary by the end of Christmas depending on how things go with the different tasks we've been given to "enjoy", but will probably include some extra TX specials (my sights are on a couple of coal ones, a steel one and maybe even my first RB ship). Salute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,656 battles Report post #44 Posted December 23, 2022 43 minutes ago, KillStealBoss said: There's no difference in income between a GK and Preusen with perma bonuses on it. Not strictly true: the 'special' ships have half the service cost of a regular tech tree ship: https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:The_Economics_of_Battle#Service_Cost_Discounts In other economic respects, I believe they're the same. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #45 Posted December 23, 2022 I have about 94, including special and rewards ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #46 Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, KillStealBoss said: Nah. The premium has baked in another credit bonus. Which T10s don't. T10s are special ships, they have the same credit and exp income as techtree ones with perma bonuses. The only difference is that you can use any commander without restrictions. Premiums have that + better credit income. If you would say that T10s are also premiums then my premium ship count would be close to 300... Then check the better credit income for these T8 premiums compared to the T8 with permacamo: Or for T10 premiums compared to the T10 with permacamo : Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #47 Posted December 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, Verblonde said: Not strictly true: the 'special' ships have half the service cost of a regular tech tree ship: https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:The_Economics_of_Battle#Service_Cost_Discounts In other economic respects, I believe they're the same. Correct. Premiums & Specials are cheaper to run compared to a tech tree ship, of the same tier, with a perma bonus. This can have a big effect at high tiers, especially when you're not running a premium account. Results from just smurfing around in co-op, with similar (unremarkable) XP. Preussen + perma bonus Now compare that to GK : Note that whilst I earned less with GK it was more profitable due to the reduced service costs of a permium/special ship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NORAY] FlyingBender Players 554 posts 14,736 battles Report post #48 Posted December 23, 2022 too much, sure. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,893 battles Report post #49 Posted December 23, 2022 31 minutes ago, pzkpfwv1d said: Wargaming has said that both GK and Moskva are premium ships, hence they are classed as premium ships in the Captain's Cabin in-game they are classified as "special ships" though .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #50 Posted December 23, 2022 28 minutes ago, 22cm said: Then check the better credit income for these T8 premiums compared to the T8 with permacamo: Or for T10 premiums compared to the T10 with permacamo : So what? The bonus is baked into the ship, it's not included in the bonuses that you see in port. Plus you have much higher expenses than T8's. If the T10 was really a premium it would get more credits than T9s. But it's not the case. T9s are the best credit earner, desire what you see in the bonuses. Play one battle in Alaska and compare it to Puerto Rico, with similar dmg and kills. Alaska will always bring more credits and it's a significant difference. With T8's the difference is smaller but they still bring more cash than T10's. Techtree T10s with perma bonuses will bring same amount of credits as special T10s for coal or steel. The only exception here is the battle cost that is lower in GK than Preusen. But Tirpitz will always bring more cash than Bismarck with bonuses. It's a hidden value in premium ships that you don't see in the bonuses. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites