Battle duration in co-op

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

3 hours ago, Iznogood_DK said:

Well, I'm a co-op main and I find it too easy (even though I from time to time find me in that situation you mention ;) ). I would also love a game mode where the approach isn't to yolo, but playing more cautiously, learning to position, etc and still being able to collect rewards (so training room isn't the solution either). Right now, I just rush and shoot at anything that moves, in order to get as many kills as possible in 4 minutes. I more or less stopped playing BBs in co-op, as I only get to shoot a few salvos before the game is over.

Yes, there is exactly the game mode you're looking for. It's called "random". The tier 10 bots in randoms show even more broadside than in coop btw.

[LukkaiCH]

Vor 4 Stunden, Iznogood_DK sagte:

I do suck at this game, not pretending otherwise? ... My nickname doesn't lie ;)

And here I thought you just wanted to be caliph instead of the caliph.

 

Vor 4 Stunden, Iznogood_DK sagte:

No, the chat in Randoms is toxic. Toxity in co-op is more sparse

Granted: Talk in co-op is more sparse.

[Lord0]

13 hours ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

I have statistics for almost all my past years... here is the breakdown...

 

2018.

240 battles with Average length of 7:32

 

2019.

1.884 battles with Average length of 6:03

 

2020.

3.801 battles with Average length of 5:40

 

2021.

3.672 battles with Average length of 5:39

 

2022.

2.174 battles with Average length of 5:13

 

 

As you can see I switched to CoOp in 2019. and never looked back... I don't play Randoms at all... just Brawl, Ranked, Operations and CoOp...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

So the games ARE getting faster; presumably games played in Dec are faster than those played in Jan too... 

[Onsterfelijke]

17 hours ago, Iznogood_DK said:

Ahoy captains,

 

Have anyone noticed, that co-op games are over in no time lately? They used to last app. 7 minutes, but are now often over in less than 4-5 minutes? Even 7 minutes is too short in my opinion, indicating that co-op is too easy.

I hope WG will pay attention to co-op game mode, making it a bit more challenging and not only suited for fast ships with low reload time and torp boats.

 

(unfortunatelly, random isn't an option for me, as I find that game mode too toxic).

 

todays games in co-op so far

t10
3:59
4:10
3:49
3:46
3:34

 

t9
4:17
4:54
4:28

Only in the higher tiers when you come down to the tier 5-8 they last a lot longer. The snowflak event makes that people try to finish the OP as fast possible (but still i had games who lasted longer 10-15 minutes when we had to search for ship stuck on a island.

[mdjmcnally]

Yep, fast cruisers with hydro and torps are what I find best for co-op now.

 

press W, navigate islands.    When get in close the make sure hydro up.

 

once torps launched decelerate and hard turn into ship to avoid torps and then launch own torps into bot.

 

german BC line at t9/10 also good for this.

 

either that or if need DD missions will take out handful of DD

 

days of taking BB in over for me, as found that difficult to get damage when the DD and Cruisers clean up before can get many salvoes off.

[MadBadDave]

Despite the very very anal auto Torp avoidance co ops are a lot easier than in previous years and yes they last less than 5 mins,  dds and cruisers charge in and blap the bots while bb players are still thinking about where to camp.

 

Even a co op with just one player is easy; I had Edgar in a all Supership co op match I got 5kills (why no krakens etc for co ops !!). Well over 250k damage and totally bossed the game.  It was very boring, thankfully I’ve fallen back on another recent addition ; Salem,  my new favourite bote, it’s a lot of fun 😃.

 

The thing is I’d rather have a quick gaming session than play with total idiots in a random.

[DDsOnly]

23 hours ago, Iznogood_DK said:

I do suck at this game, not pretending otherwise? ... My nickname doesn't lie ;)

 But does that mean that I'm not allowed to play Randoms without being called names?

 

A game in for enjoyment, and that was what I had hoped to do in Randoms until I ran into people trying to take possession of the game, deciding who could play it. Giving a -1 is one thing, telling me to uninstall the game, that I should die and other "classy" things is not OK

Maybe it is time for you to become a man and stop being butthurt of meaningless things that others write in chat, just a suggestion.

[LukkaiCH]

Vor 11 Stunden, Onsterfelijke sagte:

Only in the higher tiers when you come down to the tier 5-8 they last a lot longer.

That is true. They tend to be 2+ minutes longer a lot of the time. Occasionally going over ten minutes, which high-tier coop battles pretty much never do.

[LiveWire___]

On 12/21/2022 at 2:28 PM, Iznogood_DK said:

Ahoy captains,

 

Have anyone noticed, that co-op games are over in no time lately? They used to last app. 7 minutes, but are now often over in less than 4-5 minutes? Even 7 minutes is too short in my opinion, indicating that co-op is too easy.

I hope WG will pay attention to co-op game mode, making it a bit more challenging and not only suited for fast ships with low reload time and torp boats.

 

(unfortunatelly, random isn't an option for me, as I find that game mode too toxic).

 

todays games in co-op so far

t10
3:59
4:10
3:49
3:46
3:34

 

t9
4:17
4:54
4:28

 

I think it's a pretty pointless game mode personally. Good only for grinding last few pts for modules, rewards, missions etc.

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

On 12/22/2022 at 9:22 AM, mdjmcnally said:

Yep, fast cruisers with hydro and torps are what I find best for co-op now.

 

press W, navigate islands.    When get in close the make sure hydro up.

 

once torps launched ...

... make sure to accidentally eat them all so you can enter the next coop game faster and are done with the annoying snow flake farming earlier.

 

Yes, this is impolite towards your team, you could leave some of the torps for your teammates - but if too many die early, there are none left to finish the game sucessfully if only coop mains remain.

 

 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

The longest coop match I ever had must be with a team where all the others were bots, and I was the first one to get sunk.

[LukkaiCH]

Vor 1 Stunde, Karasu_Hidesuke sagte:

The longest coop match I ever had must be with a team where all the others were bots, and I was the first one to get sunk.

I've once had a coop go the whole twenty minutes.

 

On a loss.

 

With a full player team.

[NewHorizons_1]

10 minutes ago, LukkaiCH said:

I've once had a coop go the whole twenty minutes.

 

On a loss.

 

With a full player team.

One of the few times I remember co-op lasting the full duration was where I was the last one alive (in FdG IIRC) versus one bot Monarch.

I say "last one alive", I was just alive and the bot Monarch had been hardly damaged.

We had got more caps and points than the bots, so tried to disengage and hide - run down the clock and win on points.

Problem is the bots have a form of RPF so they can always find you.

[Nibenay78]

On 12/21/2022 at 3:50 PM, Karkong_the_Impaler said:

At the moment less incompetent players are flooding coop to farm snowflakes. 

You'd think competency wasn't a huge issue when dealing with ships that mostly go straight at you... but alas....

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

4 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

You'd think competency wasn't a huge issue when dealing with ships that mostly go straight at you... but alas....

Oh boy, you'd be surprised...

[BrusilovX]

There are times in co-op where the battle is over very fast and other times it can drag out.  If you're in a slow moving and firing BB it can be quite easy to not achieve much in a battle.  I think now-a-days WG are messing with the spawns and AI behaviour - quite often there is a random magnet on one of the flanks or the middle that seems to attract a lot of the BOTs.

 

A lot depends on how competent the players are.

 

One thing that may give more of a challenge is if the BOT team had two or more ships than the player team.  I think I've seen ranked games where there are different number of players on each team so that should be possible.   Having uneven teams may result in slightly longer battles.  I presume thought would need to be put in to decide if the additional ships were top tier and what class.

[BrusilovX]

On 12/21/2022 at 11:04 PM, LukkaiCH said:

Granted: Talk in co-op is more sparse.

I'm finding that there are more messages in cyrillic than before.

[LukkaiCH]

Vor 4 Stunden, BrusilovX sagte:

I'm finding that there are more messages in cyrillic than before.

That was to be expected with the migration. Still not a lot of talk happening though.