[_DMG_] Va1e Players 44 posts 27,685 battles Report post #1 Posted December 20, 2022 Hey, can I have your opinion on this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #2 Posted December 20, 2022 MM having trouble with too much love Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #3 Posted December 20, 2022 2 CVs 3 subs in a team? I ve had games with 3 CVs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_DMG_] Va1e Players 44 posts 27,685 battles Report post #4 Posted December 20, 2022 Vor 14 Minuten, 22cm sagte: 2 CVs 3 subs in a team? I ve had games with 3 CVs. Really? Games? More then one :O i was traumatised by this one... our BB not even started the game :/ .... the nurnberg was happy about that... could farm him... I think your games with 3 cvs is even worser, then my experience.... I just ask myself why the mm dont made 2 games of it.... 6 vs 6.... had often little teams, like 6vs6 or 9vs9... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #5 Posted December 20, 2022 24 minutes ago, Va1e said: Really? Games? More then one :O i was traumatised by this one... I still remember that crap. 3 games, all on T8. 2 games with 2 T8 and 1 T6 CV and one with 3 T8 CVs. The entire map was permaspotted from the first minute. This was 1 or 2 years ago, before they added their newest crap, the submarines. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #6 Posted December 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Va1e said: can I have your opinion on this? The seal clubbing tiers are trash now? We knew.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,239 battles Report post #7 Posted December 20, 2022 How someone ends up last ... in a tier 8 BB..... in a tier 6 MM? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #8 Posted December 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Va1e said: I think your games with 3 cvs is even worser, then my experience.... One early morning I had a game with 3 hosho out of 6 ships on each side. The lead surface ship never left their spawn despite going full speed. Its how you make sure newbies stay in the game. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hypsar Players 287 posts Report post #9 Posted December 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Va1e said: Hey, can I have your opinion on this? you need to paint it red for lesta to find the problem ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2500] _You_Shell_Not_Pass_ Modder 165 posts 16,157 battles Report post #10 Posted December 20, 2022 Il y a 5 heures, Va1e a dit : can I have your opinion on this? Not surprised. Don't get me wrong, I too do not like when it happens but we all know the MM mechanisms (+/- 2 tier, soft restrictions when a player's queue time -not necessary yours- lasts too long, ...) can lead to this type of battle. You can minimize this risk (not eliminate it) by playing when server population is not too low (let's say not below 10k online players) and/or quit the queue when you wait for more than 1 minute. And I don't want to debate the MM topic: lots of noise, no change. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] MrWastee Players 4,255 posts 33,584 battles Report post #11 Posted December 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Va1e said: Hey, can I have your opinion on this? very-early-morning-mm..... nothing to see here tbh. u only get to njoy the hard caps if ngh players are online to feed the queues, other times u can end up xactly like u did. inb4 "change".... they won't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLING] Cammo1962 [BLING] Players 2,468 posts 25,257 battles Report post #12 Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, 22cm said: 2 CVs 3 subs in a team? I ve had games with 3 CVs. You cant have more than 2 CVs in a game unless you are thinking of hybrid ships with planes Edited December 20, 2022 by Cammo1962 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #13 Posted December 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Cammo1962 said: You cant have more than 2 CVs in a game unless you are thinking of hybrid ships with planes Which part of the 3 CVs you did not understand? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BURZA] Montrala Players 514 posts 18,040 battles Report post #14 Posted December 20, 2022 1 godzinę temu, Cammo1962 napisał: You cant have more than 2 CVs Now you can't but it wasn't always true. https://replayswows.com/replay/81068#teams 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_DMG_] Va1e Players 44 posts 27,685 battles Report post #15 Posted December 20, 2022 Vor 16 Minuten, Montrala sagte: Now you can't but it wasn't always true. https://replayswows.com/replay/81068#teams Autsch 😫 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_DMG_] Va1e Players 44 posts 27,685 battles Report post #16 Posted December 20, 2022 Vor 3 Stunden, quickr sagte: How someone ends up last ... in a tier 8 BB..... in a tier 6 MM? when the battle starts, he wrote that he will quit.... lucky for the enemy mainz... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estaca_de_Bares Players 1,534 posts 25,837 battles Report post #17 Posted December 20, 2022 I agree with @Nibenay78 and @MrWastee in their assessment, that looks like a late night/early morning MM at mid tiers. At such hours the BB cap also goes overboard quite often: The top one is a T6 battle (T5 and 6 in the roster, with a reasonable tier mix) from this patch. The bottom one, from the previous patch, is way wonkier: except for one battleship on each team that was T7, everything else is either T6 (mainly among small ships) or T8 (e.g., half the BBs). Can't really blame the matchmaker, though, since it has to work with whatever is in the queue at the moment, which sometimes means (albeit more rarely than those depicted) a lone BB surrounded by torpedo and HE soup. Salute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #18 Posted December 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Cammo1962 said: You cant have more than 2 CVs in a game unless you are thinking of hybrid ships with planes I was one of the Hosho's and was surprised myself. Completely retarded though. No I don't have screenshot of it as it was probably a year ago. Although I doubt WG would change anything in a years time.. :P 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FAME] Re4cher Players 4,352 posts 27,850 battles Report post #19 Posted December 20, 2022 Vor 49 Minuten, Nibenay78 sagte: I was one of the Hosho's and was surprised myself. Completely retarded though. No I don't have screenshot of it as it was probably a year ago. Although I doubt WG would change anything in a years time.. :P Game was 24.02.2020 Maybe changed to 2CV max / Side . But the main Question is still: why 2 CV / Side, why Sub-Divis, why 3 Subs / Side 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BURZA] Montrala Players 514 posts 18,040 battles Report post #20 Posted December 20, 2022 11 minut temu, Re4cher napisał: Game was 24.02.2020 It was my game, not @Nibenay78 game. MM rules were changed about a year ago or so, to limit CVs to 2 per team. But with for eg. 6vs6 teams (late night / early morning) 2 CVs and 2 subs on each side are not fun. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #21 Posted December 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Montrala said: CVs and subs are not fun. fixed it for you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VPM] OldSchoolFrankie [VPM] Players 989 posts 20,632 battles Report post #22 Posted December 20, 2022 Mistake? You can enjoy diversity to the fullest.. But to answer seriously, I would like to know how many people are annoyed by this and how many play less because of it? The less ships are in the queue, the more often we will have to experience something like this. The statistics of how many random rounds are played daily would be very interesting and would certainly not trend positively. Ultimately, that doesn't matter either, because Wargaming doesn't care what the playerbase thinks. Wargming probably can't even imagine that it's related to her actions. Just be prepared for waiting times and bad ship lineups in the future. Happy holidays! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLING] Cammo1962 [BLING] Players 2,468 posts 25,257 battles Report post #23 Posted December 20, 2022 9 hours ago, Montrala said: Now you can't but it wasn't always true. https://replayswows.com/replay/81068#teams Thats true and then they changed the rules regarding how many CVs there could be on each side around a year ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLING] Cammo1962 [BLING] Players 2,468 posts 25,257 battles Report post #24 Posted December 20, 2022 9 hours ago, 22cm said: Which part of the 3 CVs you did not understand? Thats over a year ago that could happen so what was it that you did not understand ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #25 Posted December 21, 2022 11 hours ago, Cammo1962 said: Thats over a year ago that could happen so what was it that you did not understand ?? Reading must be your strongest talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
