The Most Wanted Ship - The Data

[black_falcon120]

Hi All,

 

I went through the first 15 pages of the santa contest (here) and I pulled the numbers to see what the most popular ship was. The results surprised me.

 

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Smaland    51
Enterprise    21
Musashi    21
Smolensk    21
Missouri    21
Benham    16
Thunderer    14
Belfast    10
Malta    9
Alaska    7
Kronstadt    6
Kamikaze    5
Jean Bart    5
Lenin    4
Giulio Cesare    4
Graf Spee    4
Odin    4
Kaga    4
G Kurfurst    4
Napoli    4
Groningen    3
Fujin    3
Anhalt    2
Iwaki Alpha    2
Georgia    2
Kamikaze R    2
S-189    2
Tone    2
Massachusetts    2
Hornet    2
Tirpitz    2
Moskva    2
Erich Loewenhardt    2
Roma    2
M Immelman    2
salem    1
San Diego    1
G. Verdi    1
Nelson    1
Akagi    1
ARP I-401    1
Tromp    1
Congress    1
Flint    1
Brandenburg    1
Gorizia    1
Napoli    1
Munchen    1
Champagne    1
Haida    1
Azuma    1
Cheshire    1
Somers    1
Atago    1
Dukeof York    1
Maya    1
Georgia    1
Kreml    1
Mikhail Kutuzov    1
Mutsu    1
Verdi    1
Z44    1
Prinz Eugen    1
Marceau    1
Kearsarge    1
T 61    1
stalingrad     1
Hood     1
Belfast '43    1
Yoshino    1
Friesland    1
Bayard     1
Le Terrible    1

 

 

Does anyone know why the Smaland is so popular?

 

 

[arttuperkunas]

19 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said:

Hi All,

 

I went through the first 15 pages of the santa contest (here) and I pulled the numbers to see what the most popular ship was. The results surprised me.

 

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Smaland    51
Enterprise    21
Musashi    21
Smolensk    21
Missouri    21
Benham    16
Thunderer    14
Belfast    10
Malta    9
Alaska    7
Kronstadt    6
Kamikaze    5
Jean Bart    5
Lenin    4
Giulio Cesare    4
Graf Spee    4
Odin    4
Kaga    4
G Kurfurst    4
Napoli    4
Groningen    3
Fujin    3
Anhalt    2
Iwaki Alpha    2
Georgia    2
Kamikaze R    2
S-189    2
Tone    2
Massachusetts    2
Hornet    2
Tirpitz    2
Moskva    2
Erich Loewenhardt    2
Roma    2
M Immelman    2
salem    1
San Diego    1
G. Verdi    1
Nelson    1
Akagi    1
ARP I-401    1
Tromp    1
Congress    1
Flint    1
Brandenburg    1
Gorizia    1
Napoli    1
Munchen    1
Champagne    1
Haida    1
Azuma    1
Cheshire    1
Somers    1
Atago    1
Dukeof York    1
Maya    1
Georgia    1
Kreml    1
Mikhail Kutuzov    1
Mutsu    1
Verdi    1
Z44    1
Prinz Eugen    1
Marceau    1
Kearsarge    1
T 61    1
stalingrad     1
Hood     1
Belfast '43    1
Yoshino    1
Friesland    1
Bayard     1
Le Terrible    1

 

 

Does anyone know why the Smaland is so popular?

 

 

Hideously strong dd, including in ranked/CBs

[DDG_121]

7.5 km 28 sec radar

Has superb guns

Almost Halland Torps quick reload (5 + 3 insted 5 + 5)

Has heal

Has superb AA

Has superb speed boost to juke in DD vs DD clash

 

It is one, if not the best DD hunter out there.

 

Definitely OP.

[Nibenay78]

3 minutes ago, Zimbiye said:

Definitely OP.

It really needs smoke and some better AA ;)

[Animalul2012]

Lmao Nikolay or Arkansas beta/normal would be the most wanted= superb guns, secondaries, access to all upgrades,-1+1 MM. Bonus points to soviet sub s-189. You get smaland and then you get bursted into the next map by a zorky LUL.

[lafeel]

21 minutes ago, Zimbiye said:

Definitely OP.

Strong, yes, definetly not OP.

[BrusilovX]

16 minutes ago, Animalul2012 said:

Lmao Nikolay or Arkansas beta/normal would be the most wanted= superb guns, secondaries, access to all upgrades,-1+1 MM. Bonus points to soviet sub s-189. You get smaland and then you get bursted into the next map by a zorky LUL.

I have the Nikolai and the Arkansas beta - both are fine except when there is a CV in-game.  When you press priority target (for AA) you get a nice big message on screen - no AA!

[lafeel]

13 minutes ago, BrusilovX said:

I have the Nikolai and the Arkansas beta - both are fine except when there is a CV in-game.  When you press priority target (for AA) you get a nice big message on screen - no AA!

Agincourt and RDJ also fall into the same category for the same reason.

[Animalul2012]

41 minutes ago, BrusilovX said:

I have the Nikolai and the Arkansas beta - both are fine except when there is a CV in-game.  When you press priority target (for AA) you get a nice big message on screen - no AA!

Yes they suffer against cvs but at least t4 cvs tend to be on the weaker side. Meanwhile any cruiser, dd or even BB will have a hard time dealing with you, especially Nikolay. The fact that you dont meet t6 is another bonus, shame that they dont count towards missions, other wise lower tiers will be played much more. Nevertheless they are still rare ships that dont even drop anymore from containers unlike smaland which is so rare that is seen every ranked season...

[Hakssor]

Smaland is OP at T10 and dominates ranked/CBs. Highest WR at T10 in all modes. The ship can be nerfed according to their own list https://worldofwarships.eu/en/content/ships-to-which-balance-changes-may-be-applied/ yet WG refuses to do it or at least limit it. It just shows how much of a joke is the balance department and how "ready for competitive" is the game when the most dominant ship is not even available. Everything to have a bait in those santa crates to get some cash. One of the best things done in KOTS is banning all unavailable ships, making the field even and fair.

 

If you look at the reasons in those santa cards most people mention her OPness and her usage in CBs.

[Lord0]

4 hours ago, Animalul2012 said:

Lmao Nikolay or Arkansas beta/normal would be the most wanted= superb guns, secondaries, access to all upgrades,-1+1 MM. Bonus points to soviet sub s-189. You get smaland and then you get bursted into the next map by a zorky LUL.

I have Ark Beta AND Nikolai but never play either. Why? No AA turns you into an XP pinata in the double CV games you perpetualy face. Shame. 

[HMS_Kilinowski]

The wishlist doesn't make much sense. Many people wish for ships that are still available in the premium shop or armory. Who would wish for a GK, when you can wish for a Musashi?

[SV_Kompresor]

10 hours ago, black_falcon120 said:

Does anyone know why the Smaland is so popular?

Cause it's OP?

[GulvkluderGuld]

It's strong, but no longer OP. 

In a straight up fight it's countered by Marceau, Kleber, Ragnar and Druid which used to put it in OP territory even though a tech-tree DD can beat it.

 

Now OP is tier 11 CVs and tier X submarine territory.

Nobody can counterplay those things including any DD without smoke. Just dodge = smoke.

AA which used to murder tier X CVs are quite useless against tier 11 CV, it just doesnt care.

Meanwhile tier X subs just go BRRRRRRRRRT.

 

I dont play mine much any longer - I mostly quit tier X since superships and subs were introduced, and when i play it's Daring, Druid or other smoke DDs.

11 hours ago, Zimbiye said:

Almost Halland Torps quick reload (5 + 3 insted 5 + 5)

 

Lets not forget they're stock Halland torpedoes:  Shorter range, lower damage and longer reload.

 

[Ymustihaveaname]

24 minutes ago, GulvkluderGuld said:

Now OP is tier 11 CVs and tier X submarine territory.

You are assuming people are wanting it for randoms?  The issue is if your clan wants to play it in CBs then there is huge pressure to want it in modes that t11 and subs are thankfully not allowed in?

 

(I have 38 random battles in mine, but over 5M ship exp on it for some reason, ;-) wish my clan had more of them...)

[Hakssor]

1 hour ago, GulvkluderGuld said:

It's strong, but no longer OP. 

In a straight up fight it's countered by Marceau, Kleber, Ragnar and Druid which used to put it in OP territory even though a tech-tree DD can beat it.

 

Now OP is tier 11 CVs and tier X submarine territory.

Nobody can counterplay those things including any DD without smoke. Just dodge = smoke.

AA which used to murder tier X CVs are quite useless against tier 11 CV, it just doesnt care.

Meanwhile tier X subs just go BRRRRRRRRRT.

 

I dont play mine much any longer - I mostly quit tier X since superships and subs were introduced, and when i play it's Daring, Druid or other smoke DDs.

 

Lets not forget they're stock Halland torpedoes:  Shorter range, lower damage and longer reload.

 

It has better conceal than all of those and better tools. A good Smaland is gonna dictate that engagement and most of the time she's gonna win.

She's straight up OP in competitive modes like ranked/CBs where superships and subs don't exist. A lot of people care more about the performance there than in randoms.

Even in randoms where supposedly she isn't that OP she has 58.2 % WR in the last month, 2.5 % higher than the next T10 ship. https://proships.ru/stat/eu/s/99999-h

Ragnar and Stalingrad have been nerfed while they never reached that kind of WR.

 

Balance department just turns a blind eye when it comes to Smaland. I assume that's intended to sell these santa boxes otherwise it would be pure stupidity.

[Seraphice]

13 hours ago, black_falcon120 said:

Hi All,

 

I went through the first 15 pages of the santa contest (here) and I pulled the numbers to see what the most popular ship was. The results surprised me.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

Smaland    51
Enterprise    21
Musashi    21
Smolensk    21
Missouri    21
Benham    16
Thunderer    14
Belfast    10
Malta    9
Alaska    7
Kronstadt    6
Kamikaze    5
Jean Bart    5
Lenin    4
Giulio Cesare    4
Graf Spee    4
Odin    4
Kaga    4
G Kurfurst    4
Napoli    4
Groningen    3
Fujin    3
Anhalt    2
Iwaki Alpha    2
Georgia    2
Kamikaze R    2
S-189    2
Tone    2
Massachusetts    2
Hornet    2
Tirpitz    2
Moskva    2
Erich Loewenhardt    2
Roma    2
M Immelman    2
salem    1
San Diego    1
G. Verdi    1
Nelson    1
Akagi    1
ARP I-401    1
Tromp    1
Congress    1
Flint    1
Brandenburg    1
Gorizia    1
Napoli    1
Munchen    1
Champagne    1
Haida    1
Azuma    1
Cheshire    1
Somers    1
Atago    1
Dukeof York    1
Maya    1
Georgia    1
Kreml    1
Mikhail Kutuzov    1
Mutsu    1
Verdi    1
Z44    1
Prinz Eugen    1
Marceau    1
Kearsarge    1
T 61    1
stalingrad     1
Hood     1
Belfast '43    1
Yoshino    1
Friesland    1
Bayard     1
Le Terrible    1

 

 

Does anyone know why the Smaland is so popular?

 

 

It's a ship that mostly went under the radar for a lot of people until it was announced that it was going to be removed, at which point a lot of people could not muster the resources in time.
 

Either way, not really surprised ^.^

 

Happy holidays Captain!
~Sera

[arttuperkunas]

1 hour ago, GulvkluderGuld said:

It's strong, but no longer OP. 

In a straight up fight it's countered by Marceau, Kleber, Ragnar and Druid which used to put it in OP territory even though a tech-tree DD can beat it.

 

As others have stated, this is only partially true.

 

While you're right that a well played Marcaeu, Kleber, Ragnar and Druid should be able to take a Smaland, all of those ships are one trick ponies.

 

Småland is almost as good as those ships in killing other DDs, and it can also act as a spotter, has torpedoes (unlike Ragnar/Druid), and can generally do DD things much better than these pure gunboats.

 

If I had one, I would 100% run it in CBs. Indeed, our CB comp usually includes Småland, as do those of pretty much every clan we play against.

[black_falcon120]

2 hours ago, Seraphice said:

It's a ship that mostly went under the radar for a lot of people until it was announced that it was going to be removed, at which point a lot of people could not muster the resources in time.
 

Either way, not really surprised ^.^

 

Happy holidays Captain!
~Sera

Ah ok - I was just shocked a ship I’d never heard of had 5x as many requests as the Belfast

[lafeel]

7 hours ago, Seraphice said:

It's a ship that mostly went under the radar for a lot of people until it was announced that it was going to be removed, at which point a lot of people could not muster the resources in time.
 

Either way, not really surprised ^.^

 

Happy holidays Captain!
~Sera

The fact she was priced at 2m free xp did make a lot of folks doubt that she'd be worth it as well.

[RepSrb]

20 hours ago, Zimbiye said:

7.5 km 28 sec radar

Has superb guns

Almost Halland Torps quick reload (5 + 3 insted 5 + 5)

Has heal

Has superb AA

Has superb speed boost to juke in DD vs DD clash

 

It is one, if not the best DD hunter out there.

 

Definitely OP.

 

even with radar mod in second slot (17k coal) + 20% , and captain skill + 10% consumable enhancements  ,  it has 26,4 sec radar MAX....

[RepSrb]

7 hours ago, arttuperkunas said:

As others have stated, this is only partially true.

 

While you're right that a well played Marcaeu, Kleber, Ragnar and Druid should be able to take a Smaland, all of those ships are one trick ponies.

 

Småland is almost as good as those ships in killing other DDs, and it can also act as a spotter, has torpedoes (unlike Ragnar/Druid), and can generally do DD things much better than these pure gunboats.

 

If I had one, I would 100% run it in CBs. Indeed, our CB comp usually includes Småland, as do those of pretty much every clan we play against.

agree.

i run it in ranked exclusively ,and its a beast and fun .

+ sometimes  FDR and Bourgogne.

[black_falcon120]

7 hours ago, Seraphice said:

It's a ship that mostly went under the radar for a lot of people until it was announced that it was going to be removed, at which point a lot of people could not muster the resources in time.
 

Either way, not really surprised ^.^

 

Happy holidays Captain!
~Sera

[black_falcon120]

Sorry for the ping sera, i hit the wrong button on my phone…

[tocqueville8]

I love how literally no one asked for a Tiger '59, even though she was a real ship