AFK in Ranked Battles

[Kiagy]

The rules need changing regarding AFK players in ranked Battles, at present they only go pink which is ridiculous.

 

Yes i know that sometimes things happen: phone rings, someone knocks door etc, i get that and it happens, but the rules still need changing.

 

I would propose the following rules for AFK players...

 

1-  Just a warning for 1st afk in ranked sprint

 

2- A 2nd afk by the same player in the current ranked sprint should incur a 4 hour ban from the current sprint

 

3- A 3rd afk by the same player in the current ranked sprint should incur a 12 hour ban

 

4- A 4th afk by the same player should be a perma ban until the current sprint has ended

 

Thoughts ?

[Hirohito]

Very much support this.
It doesnt generally happen often, but this really makes me rage.
Even just being afk for the first 3 minutes is pretty infuriating.

[Shaka_D]

Must agree, I've had a number of ranked games recently where players were afk. In one evening to have seen a fair number of afkers in one session appeared a little more than coincidental.

[KhorneFlake]

7 minutes ago, Kiagy said:

The rules need changing regarding AFK players in ranked Battles, at present they only go pink which is ridiculous.

 

Yes i know that sometimes things happen: phone rings, someone knocks door etc, i get that and it happens, but the rules still need changing.

 

I would propose the following rules for AFK players...

 

1-  Just a warning for 1st afk in ranked sprint

 

2- A 2nd afk by the same player in the current ranked sprint should incur a 4 hour ban from the current sprint

 

3- A 3rd afk by the same player in the current ranked sprint should incur a 12 hour ban

 

4- A 4th afk by the same player should be a perma ban until the current sprint has ended

 

Thoughts ?

Nope, thats crap.

My idea:

1: 24 h ban.

2: permaban for rest of sprint.

 

AFKers are scum, even more in ranked

 

[Kiagy]

6 minutes ago, Shaka_D said:

Must agree, I've had a number of ranked games recently where players were afk. In one evening to have seen a fair number of afkers in one session appeared a little more than coincidental.

Yes i have seen a good few too, in Ranked its a massive handicap being a ship down from the start, in randoms i think it can be managed a lot better

[Shaka_D]

12 minutes ago, Kiagy said:

Yes i have seen a good few too, in Ranked its a massive handicap being a ship down from the start, in randoms i think it can be managed a lot better

What gets me is the pure selfishness of it. I get that sometimes stuff happens, but so many afkers lately is unreal (my personal experience that is). The thing is, to have spent 15 minutes fighting for a star the previous game, only to go into the next game where one of your strongest ships is afk and you lsoe your star in 5 minutes is frustrating as hell.

[Wulf_Ace]

Dont be too harsh. Last night I had two disconnects from the game and it was not my internet fault. And when i press connect it freezes, then i have to restart PC beacouse of their dumb spagethi code.

So a lot of AFK players are not to blame, its wargaming hamster servers to be blame. They would rather spend money on their paycheck then on fixing servers.

[Ymustihaveaname]

It's not just AFK for the entire game, but slow loading, really the game needs to not start ranked until all people have loaded, or it's sometimes massively biased to one side if even one ship can swing the match by loading 2/3 mins slow unlike randoms in larger maps? If say the solo DD doesn't load on a team in time on one side, then the other side will get a massive advantage in the first 5 mins that will like lead to a cap and a kill or two and the game....

 

Not sure if you want to punish people each time for loading slowly (maybe only if they keep doing it all the time) as it does happen for technical reason, but you need some systems to stop it throwing the game by holding the rest of the players?

 

I have had a few games where players have started to move only just after first blood has been and gone (3-4 mins in), and the game has probably been decided.

[Kiagy]

15 minutes ago, Shaka_D said:

What gets me is the pure selfishness of it. I get that sometimes stuff happens, but so many afkers lately is unreal (my personal experience that is). The thing is, to have spent 15 minutes fighting for a star the previous game, only to go into the next game where one of your strongest ships is afk and you lsoe your star in 5 minutes is frustrating as hell.

Yeah this is exactly how it is in the current state, a ship short because of an afk is normally a loss

[Kiagy]

3 minutes ago, Wulf_Ace said:

Dont be too harsh. Last night I had two disconnects from the game and it was not my internet fault. And when i press connect it freezes, then i have to restart PC beacouse of their dumb spagethi code.

So a lot of AFK players are not to blame, its wargaming hamster servers to be blame. They would rather spend money on their paycheck then on fixing servers.

I get this, but if someone is having connection problems due to connection or other issues then they should not be entering ranked battles until the problem is resolved,, co-op may be the best place to test to see if the problems are still there, or maybe training room would be even better, but there is no excuse if entering ranked battles multiple times and then being afk

[Wulf_Ace]

7 minutes ago, Kiagy said:

I get this, but if someone is having connection problems due to connection or other issues then they should not be entering ranked battles until the problem is resolved,, co-op may be the best place to test to see if the problems are still there, or maybe training room would be even better, but there is no excuse if entering ranked battles multiple times and then being afk

well I dont know when WG server will take a dump on me. It happend after 10 battles, that 11th battles got DC. I dont see that much afk people in ranked, mostly they start moving after they rejoin. So yeah I blame WG

[Hades_warrior]

1 hour ago, Shaka_D said:

Must agree, I've had a number of ranked games recently where players were afk. In one evening to have seen a fair number of afkers in one session appeared a little more than coincidental.

I was experiencing AFKs every 2nd or 3rd round in every Ranked season. 

One of reasons I stopped playing.

[_Keiban_]

No Star if you are < 1k base xp on the winning team should solve all intentional AFK issues (and ppl yoloing in without achieving anything).

[Yedwy]

46 minutes ago, Kiagy said:

I get this, but if someone is having connection problems due to connection or other issues then they should not be entering ranked battles until the problem is resolved,, co-op may be the best place to test to see if the problems are still there, or maybe training room would be even better, but there is no excuse if entering ranked battles multiple times and then being afk

Idont know how to bring it to you but most people including WG dont give a f that you are foaming at the mouth about the AFK-ers in WOWS and the current level of "punishment" is prob as far as they will ever go because already at this level their detection system is breaking down and people are raging about it...

[Hirohito]

1 hour ago, Shaka_D said:

What gets me is the pure selfishness of it. I get that sometimes stuff happens, but so many afkers lately is unreal (my personal experience that is). The thing is, to have spent 15 minutes fighting for a star the previous game, only to go into the next game where one of your strongest ships is afk and you lsoe your star in 5 minutes is frustrating as hell.

The most selfish ones  are the ones that pick DDs and then AFK, or even reverse into a corner.
It's despicable to AFK like that, but hurting your team's chances even more by picking a DD to do that in is absolutely unforgivable.

[BrusilovX]

56 minutes ago, Wulf_Ace said:

well I dont know when WG server will take a dump on me. It happend after 10 battles, that 11th battles got DC. I dont see that much afk people in ranked, mostly they start moving after they rejoin. So yeah I blame WG

If you're encountering problems every 10 battles (or so) it sound like your computer is at fault more than the WG server.  It could be a memory leak or the computer (or some component) is getting too hot.  If it was a WG server problem then there should be a lot more players encountering this problem.

[Kiagy]

6 minutes ago, Hirohito said:

The most selfish ones  are the ones that pick DDs and then AFK, or even reverse into a corner.
It's despicable to AFK like that, but hurting your team's chances even more by picking a DD to do that in is absolutely unforgivable.

I agree, i had an afk DD today, needles to say we lost, the current system needs changing, mine is just an idea, others will have different opinions on how a penalty system should be implemented

[ReportSandoor94]

So when you suffer from connection issues and get disconnected alot.. you might end up with a permaban wich is unfair at best.

Dont even mention the issues we see alot after patch day.. i have played a few ranked battles when i was still interrested in this mode and have seen a few AFK players but it was never a big issue.

Banning is usually not the best option to punish players of wich you cannot be sure what actually happened.

 

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

3 hours ago, _Keiban_ said:

No Star if you are < 1k base xp on the winning team should solve all intentional AFK issues (and ppl yoloing in without achieving anything).

I agree, although it may hit the odd player, say, a DD that eats torps early in the game....

 

You know the joke (joke in quotation marks) about human resources?

How does a human resources manager work through 100 applications on one day? He just throws away 96 of them with the words "we don't need anyone with this much bad luck".

[_Keiban_]

Vor 1 Stunde, Karkong_the_Impaler sagte:

I agree, although it may hit the odd player, say, a DD that eats torps early in the game....

well, sure, sucks for him, but... It surely wasn't his merit when his team wins anyway. Quite the contrary, he was a serious setback for his team. Even if not intentional, why would he deserve a star?

 

The more i think about it, the more i like this approach.

Not only would it prevent afk players from advancing, but also really bad players that only rely on a big number of games and teams that carry them...

Although base xp calculation is far from perfect, it's the best measurement of someone's usefulness we have. You could also use it on the losing side: <500bxp you lose 2 stars, > 1500bxp you keep a star (or even gain one!).

[_Keiban_]

Vor 4 Stunden, DudeWheresMyCarma sagte:

So when you suffer from connection issues and get disconnected alot.. you might end up with a permaban wich is unfair at best.

But is it fair to your teammates when you set them back a ship because of YOUR connection issues?

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

I just wanted to add, that I personally know of a highly emotional player who lost a lot of ranked games and was very frustrated. He then proceeded to spam games which he instantly left to port. He made it to rank 1 that way, getting carried by chance.

[ReportSandoor94]

5 hours ago, _Keiban_ said:

But is it fair to your teammates when you set them back a ship because of YOUR connection issues?

So bad connection is some1 has on purpose?

Cmon there is still alot of country's with mediocre internet at best.

[Seraphice]

20 hours ago, Kiagy said:

The rules need changing regarding AFK players in ranked Battles, at present they only go pink which is ridiculous.

 

Yes i know that sometimes things happen: phone rings, someone knocks door etc, i get that and it happens, but the rules still need changing.

 

I would propose the following rules for AFK players...

 

1-  Just a warning for 1st afk in ranked sprint

 

2- A 2nd afk by the same player in the current ranked sprint should incur a 4 hour ban from the current sprint

 

3- A 3rd afk by the same player in the current ranked sprint should incur a 12 hour ban

 

4- A 4th afk by the same player should be a perma ban until the current sprint has ended

 

Thoughts ?

The system actually already has something like this in place.

 

First you will receive a warnings (no income)

Then you will receive a penalty (become pink)

And if you are repeatedly AFK you will actually turn orange and subsequently be locked out from the main gamemodes such as Random and Ranked Battles.
 

Happy holidays Captain!
~Sera

[Kiagy]

54 minutes ago, Seraphice said:

The system actually already has something like this in place.

 

First you will receive a warnings (no income)

Then you will receive a penalty (become pink)

And if you are repeatedly AFK you will actually turn orange and subsequently be locked out from the main gamemodes such as Random and Ranked Battles.
 

Happy holidays Captain!
~Sera

That's good, but the penalty system needs to be tougher for being repeatedly afk in Ranked Battles

 

Correct me if i'm wrong; under the current penalty system being orange bans a player from playing random or ranked battles for around 6 games ? ( they have to [play co-op until the ban is lifted)

 

Although this is good i don't think the impact of an afk ship in random battles is the same as the impact in Ranked Battles, in randoms a 6 game or more is justified for repeatedly being afk, but in ranked games only 6 games is not enough as having one afk greatly influences the result (it is normally a loss)

 

In my opinion, 4 or 5 afk's in ranked battles should be a perma ban until the current Ranked Sprint is over

14 hours ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said:

I just wanted to add, that I personally know of a highly emotional player who lost a lot of ranked games and was very frustrated. He then proceeded to spam games which he instantly left to port. He made it to rank 1 that way, getting carried by chance.

Take the above comment as an example, such a player would have to enter a huge amount of Ranked Battles being afk to achieve the players aim, this is wrong as the impact on teams he enters afk is huge

 

As i said earlier; i get that some players have disconnection problems or in game freezes or any other problems that causes them to be afk (i have had my share of them), but after 4 or 5 times being afk because of such problems they should not be entering ranked battles as they already know the liklehood of disconnection is high (at least until the problem is resolved), now my point is not to ban everyone that disconnects from the game if they rejoin even after 5 minutes they should not be treated as an afk (its not the same}, but players consistently being afk should face a harsher ban.at least until the end of the current Ranked Sprint

 

This is just my opinion