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15 hours ago, Kruzenstern said:

Arguably the ships hit hardest by the nerfbat were Bogue, Independence, Essex, Zuiho, Hiryu and Taiho :Smile_hiding:

I could've reacted "funny" like everyone else but this comment really struck a nostalgia nerve.

 

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10 minutes ago, Europizza said:

Top 5 ships i stopped playing because WG fkd with them, rightious or not.

 

Grozovoi (not)

 

Genuine question: when did they nerf the Grozovoi? What did they change?

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13 minutes ago, tocqueville8 said:

 

Genuine question: when did they nerf the Grozovoi? What did they change?

The carrier rework made it's AA a joke. It's still a nice DD but I stopped playing post carrier rework.

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WARSHIPS BOOMER : TOP 5 NERFED PREMIUMS CLICK HERE NOW SO I DON'T NEED TO GET A REAL JOB
> Smolensk had 32mm HE pen, no it didn't.
> Kremlin is not a premium, all they did was fiddle with AA mount survivability.
> Conqueror is also not a premium
> STOP NERFING CVs!!

You owe everyone an apology if they watched 10 mins of this guy's content because of your post.

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17 minutes ago, COPlUM said:

WARSHIPS BOOMER : TOP 5 NERFED PREMIUMS CLICK HERE NOW SO I DON'T NEED TO GET A REAL JOB
> Smolensk had 32mm HE pen, no it didn't.
> Kremlin is not a premium, all they did was fiddle with AA mount survivability.
> Conqueror is also not a premium
> STOP NERFING CVs!!

You owe everyone an apology if they watched 10 mins of this guy's content because of your post.

He’s a teacher, it’s a real job, as far as I know.

Smolensk had 32mm pen with IFHE, before the rework.

I don’t know if the title was changed, but currently it’s top 5 ships…, not top 5 premiums…

He uses clickbaity titles, if you make videos daily and want some revenue for your effort then you must do it. I usually just check which ships he mentions in his top 5 videos, without watching them. I like his ship reviews, though. He’s not on pair with the best players, but his review’s are honest compared to the likes of Flamu.

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55 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said:

Smolensk had 32mm pen with IFHE, before the rework.

 

LOL, No? Even before IFHE rework, you could only get it up to 28mm.

 

And Enterprise was "absolutely murdered"? Yeah sure...

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1 hour ago, COPlUM said:

> Kremlin is not a premium, all they did was fiddle with AA mount survivability.

Didn't they also fiddle with its gun accuracy? 

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4 minutes ago, Communist_Loli said:

Didn't they also fiddle with its gun accuracy?

Kremlin changelog

 

  • Jan 25, 2019:
    • Preliminary characteristics.
  • Mar 13, 2019:
    • Dispersion formula changed:
      • Horizontal and vertical dispersion depending on distance now changes more smoothly. Inside of 12 km accuracy was slightly reduced.
    • Damage Control Party duration decreased to 10 s.
  • Mar 29, 2019:
    • Surveillance Radar consumable (15 km range, detects only BB and CV, 60 s duration, 270 (180) s reload time, 2 (3) charges) was removed.
  • Apr 19, 2019:
    • Armoring of deck and stern belts increased from 50 to 60 mm.
    • AP shell penetration decreased.
    • Torpedo protection increased from 29% to 46%.
    • Removed the option of installing Gun Fire Control System Modification 2 in Slot 6.
    • Main battery turret HP increased from 20,000 to 40,000.
  • May 16, 2019:
    • Renamed to Kremlin.
    • Sigma parameter increased from 1.7 to 1.8.
    • Main battery reload time decreased from 34 to 33 s.
  • May 27, 2019:
    • Sigma parameter increased from 1.8 to 1.9.
  • Introduced in Update 0.8.4.
  • Update 0.8.9:
    • AP shell damage decreased from 15,500 to 14,500, and the parameters of the projectile accompanying this were also changed.
    • HE shell damage decreased from 6600 to 6500, and the fire chance decreased from 48% to 45%. The parameters of the projectile accompanying this change were also changed.
  • Update 0.9.0:
    • The HP of AA mounts was decreased by 50%.
  • Update 0.9.1:
    • Sigma parameter decreased from 1.9 to 1.85.
    • Fixed the names of the fire control system module.
  • Update 0.9.2:
    • Sigma parameter decreased from 1.85 to 1.80.
  • Update 0.9.3:
    • Continuous damage caused by AA mounts was decreased from 433 to 412.
    • The number of flak bursts was decreased from 10 to 9.
    • Damage within the explosion radius was decreased from 1,820 to 1,750.
    • Minor fixes to textures and ship model.
  • Update 0.9.5:
    • Continuous damage caused by AA mounts was decreased from 413 to 395.
    • The number of flak bursts was decreased from 9 to 8.
  • Update 0.10.0:
    • The firing range of the secondary battery was increased to 7.3 km.
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1 hour ago, Ocsimano18 said:

He’s a teacher,

 

Oof. Poor students

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2 hours ago, Ocsimano18 said:

I don’t know if the title was changed, but currently it’s top 5 ships…, not top 5 premiums…

True, but in his opening sentence says "premiums".

 

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Interesting fail for YTs captions though "nerfed nurses" ???

Carry On, Doctor quotes incoming in 3, 2, 1 ...

 

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On 12/13/2022 at 8:13 PM, tocqueville8 said:

Also: CONQUEROR?!? 

 

What's this guy smoking? :fish_panic:

The smoke from the fires set by the Conq? :Smile-_tongue:

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49 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

The smoke from the fires set by the Conq? :Smile-_tongue:

 

I guess...

I mean, maybe he's right that she was nerfed: I don't know the whole changelog. But "to hell"? She's way above average for me even though I play her like a mindless HE spammer.

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2 hours ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

 

LOL, No? Even before IFHE rework, you could only get it up to 28mm.

 

And Enterprise was "absolutely murdered"? Yeah sure...

1. True, but it crosses 27mm making it good against a couple of heavy cruisers.

2. Enterprise was nerfed, I don’t have her, but the global rocket and bomb nerfs effected her.

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25 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said:

True, but it crosses 27mm making it good against a couple of heavy cruisers.

 

Smolensk is still having 27mm pen with IFHE. Losing 1mm of pen after IFHE rework literally means nothing to Smolensk,  as you either pen 27mm or not, and Smol do. IFHE rework impacted Smols fire starting chance as, unlike what LM said in his video, previously, due caliber, Smol fire chance dropped only for 1%, from 8% to 7%, while now it drops for half to 4%.

 

Armour changes on the other side, which went together with IFHE rework, had more impact as Smol lost its 30mm deck and upper belt, which are now reduced to 16mm. This mean Smol can not more bounce BB AP shells on her deck or shatter DD HE shells, which means it is now eating more damage by default.

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5 hours ago, Ocsimano18 said:

He’s not on pair with the best players, but his review’s are honest compared to the likes of Flamu.

 

can't call it honest if he claims Smollie has 32mm HE pen :Smile_child:

 

i watched this video, dude seems like a BBaby tbh

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44 minutes ago, lup3s said:

 

can't call it honest if he claims Smollie has 32mm HE pen :Smile_child:

 

i watched this video, dude seems like a BBaby tbh

Making a factual error is not dishonesty. Dishonesty is when you know that something is not true (like saying a ship is OP, when in fact not) but you say the opposite to create negative hype to boost your view counts.

 

He’s a (mostly German brawling) BB main, and definetly views the game from his perspective.

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6 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said:

Making a factual error is not dishonesty. Dishonesty is when you know that something is not true (like saying a ship is OP, when in fact not) but you say the opposite to create negative hype to boost your view counts.

 

He’s a (mostly German brawling) BB main, and definetly views the game from his perspective.

 

You can apply this reasoning to the video as well ? Clickbait title and the ships mentioned are (imo) definitely not "nerfed to hell" :Smile_Default:

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11 minutes ago, lup3s said:

 

You can apply this reasoning to the video as well ? Clickbait title and the ships mentioned are (imo) definitely not "nerfed to hell" :Smile_Default:

The title is clickbaity.

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2 hours ago, fumtu said:

 

Smolensk is still having 27mm pen with IFHE. Losing 1mm of pen after IFHE rework literally means nothing to Smolensk,  as you either pen 27mm or not, and Smol do. IFHE rework impacted Smols fire starting chance as, unlike what LM said in his video, previously, due caliber, Smol fire chance dropped only for 1%, from 8% to 7%, while now it drops for half to 4%.

 

Armour changes on the other side, which went together with IFHE rework, had more impact as Smol lost its 30mm deck and upper belt, which are now reduced to 16mm. This mean Smol can not more bounce BB AP shells on her deck or shatter DD HE shells, which means it is now eating more damage by default.

For me the biggest nerfs were that you cannot set BBs on fire while wrecking cruisers at the same time. You also lost some DPM if you want reasonable range, because of the removal of the extended range captain skill. Now you have to use the sixth upgrade slot for range, instead of DPM. Also you can no longer build for extreme range. From the other perspective, when you’re in a BB, you no longer have to load HE to deal with a Smolensk, allowing you to use AP on other targets and switch to Smolensk when she gets spotted.

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7 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said:

You also lost some DPM if you want reasonable range, because of the removal of the extended range captain skill. Now you have to use the sixth upgrade slot for range, instead of DPM. Also you can no longer build for extreme range.

 

People usually used range upgrade instead of reaload, as having 19km range was more useful as DPM was already good and you could increase it with BFT. Loss of access to BFT was somewhat compensated with Heavy HE and SAP, which give almost the same HE DPM as before but now there is no way to increase AP DPM without using reload upgrade. 

 

Smolensk was beyond stupid when added, and it is just showing how idiotic design it was when after all those changes it is still good. Similar like Petro, which, after 4 or 5 straight nerfs, is still strong, and regularly on ban list from some competitions.

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