Are Gibraltar worth RP?

[VedranSeaWolf359]

In two days I will have enough RP to take second RP ship thanks to Puerto Rico event. 

Are Gibraltar worth RP?

 

First RP Ship which I have is Colbert.

[lovelacebeer]

Whilst I like the Gibraltar she is very situational, she’s not the best RB ship but she has potential, you can certainly smack destroyers hard as well as broadside capital ships.

 

Fun but limited carry potential. 
 

Just be very aware of her smoke fire penalty, she pairs up well supporting your DDs because once you can kill the enemy spotter you can farm from within smoke. 

[KillStealBoss]

I have it. It's one of the hardest cruisers to play. High and exposed citadel, bad firing angles of the rear turret when pushing and the front guns when kiting away, no torped so BBs push into your smoke easy, bad smoke firing penalty of 9.5km. so yeah, hard to play. But the AP is really nasty against light cruisers and DDs. 

[Gnirf]

24 minutes ago, VedranSeaWolf359 said:

In two days I will have enough RP to take second RP ship thanks to Puerto Rico event. 

Are Gibraltar worth RP?

 

First RP Ship which I have is Colbert.

I would rather take Ohio but that is me. It depends on what you like.

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

 

Can't recommend. Truly special interest.

 

1 hour ago, lovelacebeer said:

Fun but limited carry potential. 

Depends...

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

Aparently you can watch old replays from last patch:

 

 

 

So, if you're interested:

 

20221207_233425_PBSC610-Gibraltar_35_NE_north_winter.wowsreplay

 

This is of course an exceptional game. But notice how I casually blap the Alvaro for 10k until he abandons the cap and his submersible scum. See the (broadside) Mino get blapped, see the pants down Sherman die inside seconds - one reload necessary, and that is reasonably fast.

Neither the Napoli nor the Conq were really good players, I guess the most damage I got there were Napoli secondaries. But where you can't citadel with your short fuse AP, it takes a while.

 

It's not a ship for the feint of heart, just because it has a smoke it's certainly not a Minotaur on steroids. The only real advantage is the Minotaur acceleration and the agility (with rudder mod).

[Litigo]

No. Hard pass

[Miscommunication_dept]

I like playing Gibraltar but I really wouldn’t recommend it. It’s so limited.

[MoveZig]

It's situational, and like any AP-only ship it depends on enemies making mistakes.If they angle hard or go bow-on (including DDs!), most of your DPM is gone. If they rush you while doing this, you can't use your smoke. Unlike the tech-tree CLs it doesn't have particularly good concealment, so you can't sneak past most cruisers. It doesn't have good shell arcs for the caliber, so aiming can also be tricky. The firing angles are limited so you have to show too much broadside. In short, if the enemy has a brain, it's frustrating to play. It's not even a good co-op ship because bots like rushing you down, which is exactly what Gibraltar can't handle.

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

Todays Gibraltar games. Not curated. It gives an overview on what it can do and what it can't.

20221210_213330_PBSC610-Gibraltar_16_OC_bees_to_honey.wowsreplay

20221210_221712_PBSC610-Gibraltar_47_Sleeping_Giant.wowsreplay

20221210_210823_PBSC610-Gibraltar_16_OC_bees_to_honey.wowsreplay

20221210_211913_PBSC610-Gibraltar_53_Shoreside.wowsreplay

[MoveZig]

Honestly, if you want the Gibraltar playstyle (short-fuse-AP-only, no torps, smoke, hydro, fast acceleration) I say get Mysore instead. Way more comfortable. Concealment is actually good, smoke bloom is reasonable, smoke itself is pretty much objectively better unless you're trying to smoke up allies for some reason. Survivability-wise, this is tough for a t6 CL if you play right. You don't get the crazy DPM but you can still chunk DDs pretty good. It's just a fun little CL, whereas Gibraltar I find stressful to play and less consistent. It's just as bad for co-op though, if not worse.

[CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist]

NO

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

How did you deceide?

 

I personally wouldn't, if I were you. Let's face it, you're not a very good player and what the tub doesn't abide is being mishandled. And in coop, it's (probably) positively trash, because most coop bots show less broadside than the bots in t10 randoms.

[Fatal_Ramses]

I'm saving RPs for that new Commonwealth cruiser.

In the RP I have 4 ships left: Slava, Sevastopl, Druid and Gibraltar.

I think Gibraltar would be the last ship on this list I would get.

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

11 minutes ago, Fatal_Ramses said:

I think Gibraltar would be the last ship on this list I would get.

Depends on what you want to do with it. For hoarding it's entirely ok. If you want to actually use it, it's probably not such a great idea.

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

@VedranSeaWolf359

 

How did you deceide?

[VedranSeaWolf359]

1 hour ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said:

@VedranSeaWolf359

 

How did you deceide?

I keep RP for now I will open new topic and ask for suggestion which ship to take

[COPlUM]

Research bureau has one ship you get because it's good (Ohio) and a bunch of ships you get because you are bored and they look funny. Pick whichever one you think looks funniest. Gibraltar is pretty funny, it can oneshot destroyers better than Venezia can. I think that's funny, sending someone back to port before the clock hits 19:00 sounds funny. Yolo emilio is the funniest though so it wins the real research bureau ship contest for funniest ship. Yolo emilio is the OG shotgun, it was shotgunning people before the shotgun class was implemented.

[Vbeest]

On 12/9/2022 at 8:45 PM, VedranSeaWolf359 said:

 

Are Gibraltar worth RP?

 

 

Only if you take two of them!

[BLUB__BLUB]

22 hours ago, VedranSeaWolf359 said:

I keep RP for now I will open new topic and ask for suggestion which ship to take

If you want to smack DDs from smoke, I have Plymouth which is great for that. It's not for RP - steel ship. 

But that has smoke, radar and hydro. It is like a fat-bottomed crossbreed between Mino and a Belfast. 

 

For RP I got Ohio (a better Montana), Vampire 2 (a variant of Daring) and Paolo Yolo (that thing is hilarious). 
Not much else there I'm interested in, TBH. So I am keeping the RP as well in case something new comes up. 

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

2 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

If you want to smack DDs from smoke, I have Plymouth which is great for that. It's not for RP - steel ship. 

But that has smoke, radar and hydro. It is like a fat-bottomed crossbreed between Mino and a Belfast.  

It takes too much skill for a bad or mediocre player to make full use of it. If the only thing you can do is farm damage from smoke, you're better off with a Mino.

[BLUB__BLUB]

3 minutes ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said:

It takes too much skill for a bad or mediocre player to make full use of it. If the only thing you can do is farm damage from smoke, you're better off with a Mino.

I find it easier to play than a Mino (or maybe I'm just having bad/good luck). 
Taking the Plymouth to Clan Battles quite often - with good results. Would not even dream of doing that with a Mino... 

 

Just saying, if he is looking for a DD swatter... there it is. 

[VedranSeaWolf359]

18 hours ago, COPlUM said:

Research bureau has one ship you get because it's good (Ohio) and a bunch of ships you get because you are bored and they look funny. Pick whichever one you think looks funniest. Gibraltar is pretty funny, it can oneshot destroyers better than Venezia can. I think that's funny, sending someone back to port before the clock hits 19:00 sounds funny. Yolo emilio is the funniest though so it wins the real research bureau ship contest for funniest ship. Yolo emilio is the OG shotgun, it was shotgunning people before the shotgun class was implemented.

So are Ohio better in secondaries then Montana?

[BLUB__BLUB]

35 minutes ago, VedranSeaWolf359 said:

So are Ohio better in secondaries then Montana?

Here ya go.

 

 

The difference is, Ohio reloads faster, and has longer range. So yeah it has better secondaries (and 1% more fire chance).

Montana has 20 (10 x2),  Ohio has 20 (10x2) so no difference in the amount of guns. 

 

However it is not a Schlieffen or Preussen or Kürfürst. 

 

 

[LukkaiCH]

That's not stock Ohio though, is it.

 

If I go by the wiki, stock range is 7.5km (against 7.3km for the Montie), fire chance is 9% and reload is 3.5 seconds (to Montana's 4s).

 

Still better than the Montana. But not anywhere near as much. Definitely better than Vermont, which sits at 7.3km, 5% and 6 seconds, with two twin turrets less to boot.