The new combat scout heroic achievement

[Trench4nt]

I really like to play the Pan-Asian DDs and with the new unique commander upcoming, I was somewhat exited to activate his main talent giving you 20% more reload once you get the heroic combat scout achievement.

 

But...   during the entire last update I was not able to get a single one in any DD. So I ask myself how likely it is to reach it and if someone already got it?

In fact, getting it with a CV is much easier but that's not the goal (although I know that there is a Pan-Asian Carrier existing).

 

I do have a record match in YY with more than 250k spotting damage, but that was a very very special case. Usually, I would say that you are not even close to the threshold you would need?

 

[Bland_42]

I did it today (yesterday) in Ranked with my Minekaze.

It even surprised me, didn't expected it.

 

That said, if I'm not wrong it was my first combat scout... so not really a common occurrence.

I think it's doable, but there's the need to play fairly aggressive.

[HMS_Kilinowski]

The Combat Scout is a step in the right direction. Finally spotting is honored. Would be nice if it was rewarded as well.

The downside is the dependence on your team. A player can scout the entire enemy team and keep them perma spotted for a prolonged time. He does not get the achievement if his team can't aim.

So yet again, it is an achievement that depends on the quality of your team just as much as on your own quality. But if you did your job, why would you get punished for your team mates.

It's like with Solo Warrior. I have seen to most terrible J10-camping CVs get a Solo Warrior, just for existing, when the clock ran out.

I have got myself Krakens that were nothing more than finishing low HP-targets off that my team was too blind to shoot at.

 

Wargaming counts so many metrics, why not define more achievements that are clearly personal performance? Why not define an achievement based on capping, or damage done after baiting a DCP, or radaring/hydroing targets for a certain total duration, or damage done/healed by a friendly unit in your smoke. This game needs to reward team play so much more that people actually want to implement team play simply out of selfish reasons.

[Bland_42]

14 minuti fa, HMS_Kilinowski ha scritto:

This game needs to reward team play so much more that people actually want to implement team play simply out of selfish reasons.

This would need game competence from devs.

And this is WG...

[KillStealBoss]

6 hours ago, Trench4nt said:

But...   during the entire last update I was not able to get a single one in any DD. So I ask myself how likely it is to reach it and if someone already got it?

Depends how competent your team is to shoot the spotted targets. Also CVs are taking away some of your spotting as a DD, subs sometimes also "steal" some spotting damage. I got it 7 or 8 times, 3-4 times playing CVs, and once I was in Sinop (yes in a BB!) in ranked when all my DDs were smoking up and I was the one pushing and spotting (no cruiser game). 

[Northern_Nightowl]

Vor 6 Stunden, Trench4nt sagte:

I ask myself how likely it is to reach it and if someone already got it?

Since its introduction, I got IIRC four or five of those Combat Scout achievements, all in DD, and I think mostly IJN torpedo vessels, also in Ranked, bronze or silver. From my viewpoint as mostly DD main, it's one of the easier heroic achievements, I'm getting it at a faster pace than High Caliber or Dreadnought.

 

Regards, Nightowl

[ItsEyeJasper]

7 hours ago, Trench4nt said:

I really like to play the Pan-Asian DDs and with the new unique commander upcoming, I was somewhat exited to activate his main talent giving you 20% more reload once you get the heroic combat scout achievement.

 

But...   during the entire last update I was not able to get a single one in any DD. So I ask myself how likely it is to reach it and if someone already got it?

In fact, getting it with a CV is much easier but that's not the goal (although I know that there is a Pan-Asian Carrier existing).

 

I do have a record match in YY with more than 250k spotting damage, but that was a very very special case. Usually, I would say that you are not even close to the threshold you would need?

 

It is not an Easy achievement to get, because you have to rely so much on your team. Its much easier to get with CVs, or limited ships in game, ie ranked. 

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

Submersible scum works ok'ish to get these. Not that this is helpful to the OP unless we get chinese submarines...

[Commander_Cornflakes]

Vor 2 Stunden, KillStealBoss sagte:

Depends how competent your team is to shoot the spotted targets. Also CVs are taking away some of your spotting as a DD, subs sometimes also "steal" some spotting damage.

You can't actually "steal" spotting damage, because all spotters get the full amount of damage credited, even if multiple ships do spot the enemy. Only the one doing the actual damage must not spot the target.

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

9 hours ago, Trench4nt said:

I really like to play the Pan-Asian DDs and with the new unique commander upcoming, I was somewhat exited to activate his main talent giving you 20% more reload once you get the heroic combat scout achievement.

 

But...   during the entire last update I was not able to get a single one in any DD. So I ask myself how likely it is to reach it and if someone already got it?

In fact, getting it with a CV is much easier but that's not the goal (although I know that there is a Pan-Asian Carrier existing).

 

I do have a record match in YY with more than 250k spotting damage, but that was a very very special case. Usually, I would say that you are not even close to the threshold you would need?

 

What exactly is the criteria for that again?

 

Agree that it would be amazing with a Pan Asian legendary commander with skills that can actually prock useful effects, much like Jerzy for the Swedes and Cunninham for the British. Specially since after looking at the new upcoming "Super YouYang" (KunMing?!) which seems to have the potential of being OP/Broken A-F, I would definitely retire my YY and put the Legendary captain on that ship.

 

Got 2 torp reload Procks with Jerzy in my first game with Dalarna yesterday.

[DDG_121]

If the teams are BB heavy it would be harder to get that achievement since you need to do %5 damage of enemy teams total standart healthpool.

[Commander_Cornflakes]

Vor 25 Minuten, OldschoolGaming_YouTube sagte:

What exactly is the criteria for that again?

"Help your team cause damage upon your spotting. The overall damage caused must amount to at least 20% of the total base HP of all enemy ships. In doing so, cause damage on your own that is equal to at least 5% of the total base HP of all enemy ships. Can be obtained once per battle."

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Finally my long expected chance to get a 'I helped' achievement is here!

[Seraphice]

33 minutes ago, Zimbiye said:

If the teams are BB heavy it would be harder to get that achievement since you need to do %5 damage of enemy teams total standart healthpool.

I believe this is the easier part of the achievement to obtain.
Keep in mind that high caliber is 30% of the enemy's health pool, usually around 250k in TX matchmaking.

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

[Trench4nt]

Vor 4 Stunden, Northern_Nightowl sagte:

Since its introduction, I got IIRC four or five of those Combat Scout achievements, all in DD, and I think mostly IJN torpedo vessels, also in Ranked, bronze or silver. From my viewpoint as mostly DD main, it's one of the easier heroic achievements, I'm getting it at a faster pace than High Caliber or Dreadnought.

 

Regards, Nightowl

 

 

So you got only one or two in random battles?

And would expect that it is more difficult to get at T10 because you have a CV as a main competitor who can use fighters with larger spotting radius?

 

 

Actually, I like the name "I helped achievement".

[Hugh_Ruka]

Yeah that's the funny thing, all team related tasks (tanking and spotting) either do not have an achievement or do not depend solely on your performance to obtain. All the other are self-sufficient. Team play is honored only in winrate and related stats (bonus for wining) yet selfish play is honored in winrate AND EVERYTHING ELSE ...

 

And we are wondering why the playerbase is in the state it is  ....

[_Lupastro_]

Earned one last week with Neustra... I didn't know this achievement exists till it popped up on my screen 

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

14 hours ago, Trench4nt said:

I really like to play the Pan-Asian DDs and with the new unique commander upcoming, I was somewhat exited to activate his main talent giving you 20% more reload once you get the heroic combat scout achievement.

 

But...   during the entire last update I was not able to get a single one in any DD. So I ask myself how likely it is to reach it and if someone already got it?

In fact, getting it with a CV is much easier but that's not the goal (although I know that there is a Pan-Asian Carrier existing).

 

I do have a record match in YY with more than 250k spotting damage, but that was a very very special case. Usually, I would say that you are not even close to the threshold you would need?

 

Apparently, I had 2 of those, and at least one was in YouYang so thats comforting for release of Kunming.

 

 

Getting 20 % reload buff to guns with one extra turret and also to the 3 DW torp launchers would be nice endgame.

[lup3s]

I got it once (with Mogador) last time I played (somewhere near the end of November).

Doesn't seem that impossible to achieve imo.

[Bland_42]

Other 2 achieved today.

Both in Ranked with Minekaze (again)... and both with a game lost.

 

Seems that you simply need to have the right ship in the right spot, because I wasn't trying to achive those... they "happened".

[Northern_Nightowl]

Vor 10 Stunden, Trench4nt sagte:

So you got only one or two in random battles?

And would expect that it is more difficult to get at T10 because you have a CV as a main competitor who can use fighters with larger spotting radius?

I checked, I presently have 6 Combat Scouts actually. I got them either in a 3-3 or 4-2 repartition between Ranked and Randoms. But this is due to me playing more Ranked lately (I had to re-grind the Shiratsuyu), and I'm staying somewhat away of T10 (too much grinds on the plate, and I can't and won't play Bourgogne or Shimakaze all day long xD).

 

Regards, Nightowl

[triumphgt6]

Have two so far - last one in Neustrashimy. Shame there is no reward for any of these any more - especially the detonation flag. Seems odd that WG don't reward good play or compensate for RNG bad luck as they used to.

[Max_Kammerer]

...12, it is not so difficult (sailing mostly DDs)