Mecklenburg worth the Steel?

[Puffin_]

Is Mecklenburg worth the Steel if you have Bourgogne?

 

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

Probably depends on if you like it or not?

[NewHorizons_1]

I suppose the another aspect is what other steel ships are available for you?

[Figment]

At least it's not Incomparable. So far when I came across it it seems like your average Gerry BB. So not sure if that's your thing.

[quickr]

If you ask me, no, its not. I regret spending steel on Mecklen

[Seraphice]

I would say yes.

Mecklenburg has become one of my more favourite ships to play. her accuracy and many guns make her rather reliable.
You're not going to citadel enemy BBs unless you're in very close range, but she still packs a punch, landing good 10k+ salvos on the upper belt and superstructure, as well as having enough pen to citadel cruisers at most ranges.

And you always have the option to swap to HE. While the german HE isnt great in terms of DMG and fire chance, the fact you land so many hits and have great pen on them makes it still pretty reliable in case you are forced to shoot at nose in ships.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

1 hour ago, Seraphice said:

I would say yes.

Mecklenburg has become one of my more favourite ships to play. her accuracy and many guns make her rather reliable.
You're not going to citadel enemy BBs unless you're in very close range, but she still packs a punch, landing good 10k+ salvos on the upper belt and superstructure, as well as having enough pen to citadel cruisers at most ranges.

And you always have the option to swap to HE. While the german HE isnt great in terms of DMG and fire chance, the fact you land so many hits and have great pen on them makes it still pretty reliable in case you are forced to shoot at nose in ships.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

 

The only ship I feared in Tier X 1 vs.1 Brawl 2+ weeks ago in my Schlieffen was the Mecklenburg... all 3 games I had against them (bear in mind the players were around 60% WinRate with thousands of Random games under their belt) I lost because I was dead in just few minutes after 3-4 salvos against my superstructure / upper belt regardless of my angling... there was nothing I could have done...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[Figment]

33 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

The only ship I feared in Tier X 1 vs.1 Brawl 2+ weeks ago in my Schlieffen was the Mecklenburg... all 3 games I had against them (bear in mind the players were around 60% WinRate with thousands of Random games under their belt) I lost because I was dead in just few minutes after 3-4 salvos against my superstructure / upper belt regardless of my angling... there was nothing I could have done...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

Ambush torpedo it. With your hull. :)

[HMS_Kilinowski]

The Mecklenburg is a toxic ship for plebs. Technically the number of 305mm shells should make it a cruiser killer. But plebs get headaches from switching shell types.

So you see a lot of HE spam from Mecklenburgs. Objectively it is inferior to Thunderer and Conqueror in terms of fire chance and pen.

 

But the 2.05 sigma makes it pinpoint accurate at long range. And guess what most plebs mount in the 6th slot? It's a poor man's Thunderer, cause it doesn't have the AP power. That however is the reason for its toxicity. Since most people don't even bother using AP, it has HE loaded by default. So any DD that is spotted, the Mecklenburg is ready to shoot. Wit hthe number of shells and the good sigma, a few shells will always hit you and often knock out turrets or even torpedo tubes.

 

Since usually poor players are less inclined and able to shoot DDs, the design of Mecklenburg imo promotes a low skill floor. At the same time, tho, the long range HE spam and good dispersion promote a camping meta.

 

I think good players would either prefer Thunderer or Bourgogne.

[Puffin_]

I took a change and got  Mecklenburg . I do not regret it.

The AP is much stronger then I thought it would be.

And Mecklenburg is a DD killer. The main guns are like made specially for killing the little buggers.

Reminds me of Enterprise before the rockets nerf

[Ocsimano18]

Yes, she’s versatile, works well at range both with accurate AP on superstructures, and HE. It can citadel ships at mid to close ranges, has torpedoes and secondaries for brawls. Jack-of-all trades,  not the best sniper, not the best brawler, but good enough in both arts. My favorite German ship.

[VedranSeaWolf359]

It will be my next steel ship

[MarChil]

30 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said:

has torpedoes

At least until 3 HE shells hit you.

 

55% WR in the thing. Secondary build. I tend to focus HE spamming cruisers and DD's. But hey, who am I. I like it.

 

[Sir_Sinksalot]

On 12/8/2022 at 12:36 PM, Seraphice said:


And you always have the option to swap to HE. While the german HE isnt great in terms of DMG and fire chance, the fact you land so many hits and have great pen on them makes it still pretty reliable in case you are forced to shoot at nose in ships.

 

I don't have the ship but the Meck is one of 4 German BB's where its secondary guns come with at least 32mm of pen meaning it does not need IFHE meaning it gets to keep it's fire % chance twice as good compared to the typical German sec builds with IFHE.(Assuming you play the Meck as a sec build). So with the Meck that's 16 shells with 27% fire chance each. Obviously they're not all going to find areas to set a ship on fire but it's still a decent chance and the fast reloading guns will keep saturating that target into a floating inferno.

 

The other 3 non IFHE German BB's are the GK, the Preussen and the Hannover. Ok some could rightfully split hairs at some German BB's of T7 and lower not necessarily needing IFHE either where arguably the 105mm sec guns 26mm pen is probably going to be ok against most ships at those tiers but you get my point and focusing on higher tier gameplay.

 

Therefore if a player has dedicated a non-IFHE commander for either the Preussen or Hannover(which are tech-tree ships of course), that means you can exploit that commander to the full with the Meck and GK, using those 2 points for something else(I'd recommend Priority Target with the German BB's terrible torpedo protection and hydro beneficiary but Grease the gears is a pretty good pick too) 

[Ocsimano18]

4 hours ago, MarChil said:

At least until 3 HE shells hit you.

 

55% WR in the thing. Secondary build. I tend to focus HE spamming cruisers and DD's. But hey, who am I. I like it.

 

I use the captain skill and module to reduce torpedo tube issues on all my German torp BBs. They still get destroyed on occassion, but much less.

[Litigo]

Yes. Good ship. Better than her reputation suggests. 

[MarChil]

7 hours ago, Ocsimano18 said:

I use the captain skill and module to reduce torpedo tube issues on all my German torp BBs. They still get destroyed on occassion, but much less.

I rather use secondary in slot3, they are less important then my secondaries

[Ocsimano18]

42 minutes ago, MarChil said:

I rather use secondary in slot3, they are less important then my secondaries

Do you mean slot 1?

[MarChil]

1 hour ago, Ocsimano18 said:

Do you mean slot 1?

That's main armament. I use that, but not enough. Must be RNG hating me ;-)

 

[Seraphice]

On 12/9/2022 at 8:18 PM, Sir_Sinksalot said:

 

I don't have the ship but the Meck is one of 4 German BB's where its secondary guns come with at least 32mm of pen meaning it does not need IFHE meaning it gets to keep it's fire % chance twice as good compared to the typical German sec builds with IFHE.(Assuming you play the Meck as a sec build). So with the Meck that's 16 shells with 27% fire chance each. Obviously they're not all going to find areas to set a ship on fire but it's still a decent chance and the fast reloading guns will keep saturating that target into a floating inferno.

 

The other 3 non IFHE German BB's are the GK, the Preussen and the Hannover. Ok some could rightfully split hairs at some German BB's of T7 and lower not necessarily needing IFHE either where arguably the 105mm sec guns 26mm pen is probably going to be ok against most ships at those tiers but you get my point and focusing on higher tier gameplay.

 

Therefore if a player has dedicated a non-IFHE commander for either the Preussen or Hannover(which are tech-tree ships of course), that means you can exploit that commander to the full with the Meck and GK, using those 2 points for something else(I'd recommend Priority Target with the German BB's terrible torpedo protection and hydro beneficiary but Grease the gears is a pretty good pick too) 

I generally dont find a secondary build worth it on mecklenburg. I really prefer using her for her main guns. You can get some pretty hefty salvos in just because of your shell volume and good reload.
The lacking survivability is quite painful in a secondary build on her.