[BABBY] BlackYeti Players 995 posts 14,827 battles Report post #1 Posted December 8, 2022 Really?? This makes no sense at all, if anything the unfinished Alaska hulls would be a better choice... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POT80] SurfaceFish [POT80] Players 1,261 posts 11,268 battles Report post #2 Posted December 8, 2022 Mix and match assets already in game to produce new contents. The WG way! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #3 Posted December 8, 2022 It was actually a real proposal for two unfinished Iowas class BBs. Unfortunately, WG decided to go with a lazy copy and paste standard Iowa hull and replace turrets instead of going to closer match proposal which was supposed to have just one stack instead of two and no less than 16 dual 5 inch turrets, 7 per side + 1 front and 1 back which could shoot on both sides. There is even a proposal for 4x4 203mm guns but I guess WG will try to put that on T10, maybe using Montana hull instead of Iowa because it would be easier to copy/paste that one. https://warshipprojects.com/2018/04/01/warship-projects-profile-no-us003g/ 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DK-MK] Varian_Dorn Players 804 posts 19,917 battles Report post #4 Posted December 8, 2022 1.) As mentioned, this is based on plans for the unfinished USS Illinois. 2.) 55 minutes ago, SurfaceFish said: Mix and match assets already in game to produce new contents. The WG way! No shi*, sherlock, a new Iowa class vessel shares elements with the existing ones? The outrage! 3.) Even at first glance there are numerous differences between the Illinois and the Iowa (in-game models). Only an uneducated idiot would actually believe the new ship can basically be set up with ctrl-c ctrl-v and some minor brushovers. I´m a bit sceptical about the chosen armament as well... but then again it might just work. Guess thats what testing is for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] BlackYeti Players 995 posts 14,827 battles Report post #5 Posted December 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, Varian_Dorn said: I´m a bit sceptical about the chosen armament as well... but then again it might just work. Guess thats what testing is for. Oh I think it might even be too powerful, a DPM cruiser that doesn't have to fear a devstrike the moment it's spotted out of cover. I was just questioning the design viability just as Mecklenburg but apparently this was a real proposal which is baffling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Seraphice WG Staff 1,664 posts 7,812 battles Report post #6 Posted December 8, 2022 43 minutes ago, Varian_Dorn said: I´m a bit sceptical about the chosen armament as well... but then again it might just work. Guess thats what testing is for. That is only fair, it is pretty much unprecedented to have a BB like this, but it should be exciting to have something completely unique! Fair seas captain! ~Sera 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #7 Posted December 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Seraphice said: That is only fair, it is pretty much unprecedented to have a BB like this, but it should be exciting to have something completely unique! Fair seas captain! ~Sera Given overmatch is yes/no mechanic, large number of fast reloading 203 might be indeed option, certainly more interesting than 380 or 305 when there aren't many targets to overmatch. Though I'd like to see closer to 8s reload, ideally OG Des Moines 6s 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UA724] Shepke Players 165 posts 20,586 battles Report post #8 Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Varian_Dorn said: Even at first glance there are numerous differences between the Illinois and the Iowa (in-game models). Only an uneducated idiot would actually believe the new ship can basically be set up with ctrl-c ctrl-v and some minor brushovers. Can you enlighten us with this numerous differences? I bet "Illinois" will have same texture placements like "Iowa" in dds for hull, and slight differences in deckhouse file. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[URUC] S_h_i_v_a Players 674 posts Report post #9 Posted December 8, 2022 DeMoines Guns? Not Alaska guns? https://tenor.com/it/view/ragnar-vikings-facepalm-oh-my-oh-no-gif-17363761 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #10 Posted December 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, S_h_i_v_a said: DeMoines Guns? Not Alaska guns? https://tenor.com/it/view/ragnar-vikings-facepalm-oh-my-oh-no-gif-17363761 You mean you get cruiser that doesn't die on first instance of getting spotted? Though 10s reload is closer to Baltimore than Des Moines. Battleship (?) dispersion looks questionable, but then, effective target size for HE is larger than for AP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[URUC] S_h_i_v_a Players 674 posts Report post #11 Posted December 8, 2022 1 minuto fa, Panocek ha scritto: You mean you get cruiser that doesn't die on first instance of getting spotted? You forgot this larger target burns a full minute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UA724] Shepke Players 165 posts 20,586 battles Report post #12 Posted December 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, S_h_i_v_a said: You forgot this larger target burns a full minute. but she is BB, so "Fire Prevention Expert", "Basic of survivability", "Emergency Repair expert" are available, its not poor CB you know. And American Damage Control Party also here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BURZA] Montrala Players 514 posts 18,040 battles Report post #13 Posted December 8, 2022 So we have (for main guns, I omit secondaries for now): Cruisers with Battleship guns Cruisers with Destroyer guns Destroyers with Cruiser guns Now we get: Battleship with Cruiser guns What we need to get are: Destroyers with Battleship guns Battleship with Destroyer guns Can't wait! 1 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UA724] Shepke Players 165 posts 20,586 battles Report post #14 Posted December 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, Montrala said: What we need to get are: Destroyers with Battleship guns Battleship with Cruisers guns Can't wait! Do you mean Battleship with Destroyer guns? Spoiler Oh, and DD with BB guns (at least caliber) Spoiler 4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #15 Posted December 8, 2022 53 minutes ago, S_h_i_v_a said: You forgot this larger target burns a full minute. So does Alaska or any other CB, while also lacking high-ish rate of fire. 19 minutes ago, Montrala said: Destroyers with Battleship guns https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Hull_(DD-945) Testbed with autoloaded 203mm will do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BURZA] Montrala Players 514 posts 18,040 battles Report post #16 Posted December 8, 2022 24 minuty temu, Panocek napisał: Testbed with autoloaded 203mm will do? No. At least 10"! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Seraphice WG Staff 1,664 posts 7,812 battles Report post #17 Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Montrala said: So we have (for main guns, I omit secondaries for now): Cruisers with Battleship guns Cruisers with Destroyer guns Destroyers with Cruiser guns Now we get: Battleship with Cruiser guns What we need to get are: Destroyers with Battleship guns Battleship with Destroyer guns Can't wait! Never say never! Certainly can be interesting. I mean people were asking for aki-zao for a long time, who says we cant just make yama-zuki instead :P On a more serious note, we shall have to see how she performs in testing and what changes are necessary. They are new waters and the initial stats will very likely change. Fair seas captain! ~Sera 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BURZA] Montrala Players 514 posts 18,040 battles Report post #18 Posted December 8, 2022 13 minuty temu, Seraphice napisał: who says we cant just make yama-zuki instead :P What about Harumato lub Harusuma? Elbnover anyone? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONI] MoveZig Players 1,622 posts 20,823 battles Report post #19 Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Montrala said: Battleship with Destroyer guns 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DK-MK] Varian_Dorn Players 804 posts 19,917 battles Report post #20 Posted December 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Shepke said: Can you enlighten us with this numerous differences? I bet "Illinois" will have same texture placements like "Iowa" in dds for hull, and slight differences in deckhouse file. Let me help you find what you need here: They are called eyes, usually mounted somewhere on your head; they allow you to see things. Once you found those, direct them at the two pictures I linked up there in this thread. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #21 Posted December 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Panocek said: Testbed with autoloaded 203mm will do? Nah.. we need some fixed mount firing only forward... at least a 16" or so... and to make it against other DDs let the HE be shrapnell / cluster ammo... When we go weird, we need to go totally weird! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] BlackYeti Players 995 posts 14,827 battles Report post #22 Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Deckeru_Maiku said: Nah.. we need some fixed mount firing only forward... at least a 16" or so... and to make it against other DDs let the HE be shrapnell / cluster ammo... When we go weird, we need to go totally weird! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Vesuvius_(1888) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #23 Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, BlackYeti said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Vesuvius_(1888) An effing air-soft triple gun with a range lower than the secondary guns of the Mikasa... priceless... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #24 Posted December 8, 2022 6 hours ago, Montrala said: So we have (for main guns, I omit secondaries for now): Cruisers with Battleship guns Cruisers with Destroyer guns Destroyers with Cruiser guns Now we get: Battleship with Cruiser guns What we need to get are: Destroyers with Battleship guns Battleship with Destroyer guns Can't wait! Kremlin with 6 Smolensk turrets in the works! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #25 Posted December 8, 2022 6 hours ago, Montrala said: What we need to get are: Destroyers with Battleship guns Battleship with Destroyer guns Battleship with DD guns is easy. USS Wyoming in 1944... But I'm not sure about DD with BB guns. I think this is the heaviest gun ever put on a DD... http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_8-55_mk71.php Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
