French aircraft carriers from the community

[TheKaramelka]

Here I will not make an offer on the game, here I will talk about the French aircraft carriers that may appear in the game, and aviation, and already YOU can suggest how the branch will look like from level 4 to 10 with a premium as well as their feature! (The truth is, of course, I’m not sure that the developers will see this, but at least everyone will write about their desires and suggestions here).

PLEASE, if you want to make a branch proposal, write exactly which ships you have chosen for this, what aircraft you offer them and what feature they have.

 

Aircraft carriers

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PA3(1930)

PA3 was to be a small carrier without the heavy artillery. From this design onwards no floatplanes should be carried on board making the ship a true aircraft carrier. The island followed more or less the design of PA1. The artillery, very likely dual purpose guns, was concentrated fore and aft the flight deck. Two lifts were thought to be enough for a ship of this size. All in all it seems that this design, although rather light, would have been a quite well balanced ship for service in the French Navy providing it with 4 carriers of this size within the limits of the Washington Naval Treaty.

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Displacement: 15000 t.

Plating: 13 mm

Deck: 13 mm

Armor belt: 50 mm

Overall length: 190 m

Secondary Armament:

6x2 100-mm/45 Mle 1930

AA defense:

6x2 100-mm/45 Mle 1930

8x1 37-мм/50 Mle 1925

Maximum speed: 30,2 kts.

PA4(1930)

PA4 was an enlarged version of PA3. Within the limits of the Naval Treaties only 3 ships of this design could have been built. With a higher top speed, however, this ship could have better operated together with the cruiser and big destroyers of the French Navy.

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Displacement: 19000 t.

Plating: 13 mm

Deck: 13 mm

Armor belt: 100 mm

Overall length: 222 m

Secondary Armament:

6x2 100-mm/45 Mle 1930

AA defense:

6x2 100-mm/45 Mle 1930

8x1 37-мм/50 Mle 1925

Maximum speed: 30,2 kts.

PA11(1934)

PA11 was an enlarged version of PA10. This was must have been put into a higher power of propulsion as the 1kn more in the top speed indicates. This top speed might have been necessary as the big destroyers of the French navy were designed with ever higher top speeds to counter the Italian’s light cruisers they would have been to fight against.

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Displacement: 17300 t.

Plating: 13 mm

Deck: 13 mm

Armor belt: 110 mm

Overall length: 220 m

Secondary Armament:

6x2 100-mm/45 Mle 1930

AA defense:

6x2 100-mm/45 Mle 1930

8x4 13,2-мм/76 Mle 1929

Maximum speed: 34 kts.

PA14(1935)

PA14 was in many parts similar to PA13 although it would have had some more aircraft on board as its predecessor. The lower hangar would not have been split into two parts therefore adding the space for extra aircrafts.

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Displacement: 19000 t.

Plating: 13 mm

Deck: 13 mm

Armor belt: 110 mm

Overall length: 220 m

Secondary Armament:

6x2 100-mm/45 Mle 1930

AA defense:

6x2 100-mm/45 Mle 1930

8x2 37-мм/70 Mle 1935

Maximum speed: 30 kts.

Joffre/Painlevé (1940)

Joffre class consisted of a pair of aircraft carriers ordered by the Marine Nationale (French Navy) prior to World War II. The Navy had commissioned an experimental carrier in 1927, but it was slow and obsolete by the mid-1930s. Support for naval aviation in the navy was weak during this time as it had lost control of its aircraft, their training and their development to the new Air Ministry when it formed in 1928 and did not regain full control until 1936. Traditionalists among the naval leadership had begun a battleship building program in the early 1930s to counter German ships that were suitable for commerce raiding and carriers were deemed useful to hunt them down, especially once the Germans began building a carrier of their own in 1936.

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Displacement: 20000 t.

Plating: 16 mm

Deck: 70 mm

Armor belt: 105 mm

Overall length: 236 m

Secondary Armament:

4х2 130-мм/45 Mle 1932

AA defense:

4х2 130-мм/45 Mle 1932

8x2 37-мм/70 Mle 1935

12x2 25-мм/60 Mle 1939

Maximum speed: 33,5 kts.

Commandant Teste conversetion(1945)

Post-war project of restructuring into an escort aircraft carrier, a large hydro-aircraft carrier. The aircraft carrier could have been intended for training pilots, but the project was abandoned due to the high cost.

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Displacement: 11900 t.

Plating: 13 mm

Deck: 13 mm

Armor belt: 30 mm

Overall length: 167 m

Secondary Armament:

4х1 100-mm/45 Mle 1930

AA defense:

4х1 100-mm/45 Mle 1930

6х1 37-mm/50 Mle 1925

6х2 13,2-mm Hotchkiss Mle 1929

Maximum speed: 20,5 kts.

Strasbourg Conversetion (1945)

 It should be noted that even the redesign of the battle cruiser Strasbourg into an aircraft carrier was studied by the Superior Council of the Navy but nothing is said about what is envisaged, not even the number of flotillas.

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Displacement: 32800 t.

Plating: 19 mm

Deck: 20 mm

Armor belt: 50 mm

Overall length: 215,5 m

Secondary Armament:

6x2 130 mm/45 Mle 1932

AA defense:

6x2 130 mm/45 Mle 1932

6х2 37-mm/50 Mle 1925

16х2 13,2-mm Hotchkiss Mle 1929

Maximum speed: 31 kts.

PA 31 (1947)

A post-war design for a large fleet carrier. She would've been the largest aircraft carrier to be built by the French Navy and featured extensive protection of the flight deck and hangar as well as an impressive AA suite. She wasn't built due to lack of funds and a suitable dry dock to accommodate the hull.

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Displacement: 48750 t.

Plating: 19 mm

Deck: 50 mm

Armor belt: 100 mm

Overall length: 252 m

Secondary Armament:

8x2 127mm/54 Mle 1948

AA defense:

8x2 127mm/54 Mle 1948

12x2 57mm/60 ACAD Mle 1951

Maximum speed: 32 kts.

PA25(1948)

In contrast to the other carrier designs developed after WWII the PA25 would have had a very strong AA armament. It is unknown if the heavy AA artillery should have been of British origin as the caliber suggests. The ship was to have an enclosed bow to improve its seaworthiness.

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Displacement: 25000 t.

Plating: 16 mm

Deck: 50 mm

Armor belt: 100 mm

Overall length: 250 m

Secondary Armament:

8х2 113 mm/45 QF Mk.7 mod.P

AA defense:

8х2 113 mm/45 QF Mk.7 mod.P

8х2 37-mm/70 Mle 1940

40x1 20 mm Oerlikon

Maximum speed: 30 kts.

PA28: (Clemenceau)(1950)

PA 28 is a light aircraft carrier project of the French Navy. Developed in the late 1940s, the preliminary design was prepared by August 1947. The first ship of the project was planned to be laid down at the shipyard of the naval arsenal in Brest. It was to be called "Clemenceau". The design was based on the project of the Joffre aircraft carrier, which was unfinished due to the outbreak of World War II, but was significantly improved. In 1950, the project was closed at the stage of prototype development.

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Displacement: 20000 t.

Plating: 16 mm

Deck: 16 mm

Armor belt: 19 mm

Overall length: 215 m

Secondary Armament:

4x2 127mm/54 Mle 1948

AA defense:

8x2 127mm/54 Mle 1948

12x2 57mm/60 ACAD Mle 1951

Maximum speed: 32 kts.

Jean bart Conversetion(1950)

Post-war project to convert the battleship Jean Bart into a heavy aircraft carrier.

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Displacement: 33900 t.

Plating: 19 mm

Deck: 105 mm

Armor belt: 152 mm

Overall length: 247,8 m

Secondary Armament:

12x2 100-мм/55 Mle 1950

AA defense:

12x2 100-мм/55 Mle 1950

12х2 57-mm/60 Mle 1951

Maximum speed: 34 kts.

 

Carrier-based aircraft 

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Attack aircraft

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Dewoitine D.1ter (1922)

The first project of Émile Dewoitine after the formation of his own company in October 1920. was a single-seat high-wing monoplane fighter Dewoitine D.1. The D.1ter aircraft had a reduced span but increased chord wing, and the radiators were mounted on the front legs of the fixed landing gear. 15 of them operated from the aircraft carrier Bearn.

Wibault 74 (1924)

The Wibault 7 is a fighter aircraft designed by the French firm Societe des Avions Michel Wibault. The Wib.74 variant with a reinforced fuselage and brake hook was delivered to the French Navy for combat deployment on the aircraft carrier Béarn.

Levasseur PL.5 (1924)

The Levasseur PL.5 was a carrier-based fighter produced in France in the late 1920s.

Levasseur PL.10 (1931)

The Levasseur PL.10 was a carrier-based reconnaissance aircraft developed in France in the late 1920s. It was a conventional, single-bay biplane along similar lines to Levasseur's contemporary designs for the French navy, including a watertight, boat-shaped fuselage, small underwing floats, and undercarriage that could be jettisoned in flight in order to improve the changes of a successful ditching.

Dewoitine D.376 (1939)

Dewoitine D.37 - French fighter of the interwar period. The first flight was made on October 1, 1931. Designed by Emil Devuatin. It was a parasol monoplane of metal construction with linen covering. The D.373/376 became the world's first carrier-based monoplane fighter.

Bréguet-Latécoère Laté-675 (1939)

Bréguet-Latécoère Laté-675 is a carrier-based fighter designed from scratch for Joffre-class aircraft carriers.

Dewoitine D.790 (1939)

On the basis of the HD-780 floatplane, Dewoitine's designers developed the HD-790 variant, equipped with a wheeled landing gear and intended to equip an aircraft carrier. However, this aircraft was never built. The only HD-780 prototype ever built was never flown, and its flight data are estimates and cannot be verified in practice.

SNCASE SE.580(1945)

The SNCASE SE.580 was a prototype fighter designed during World War II by the French aircraft company SNCASE (Société nationale des constructions aéronautiques du Sud-Est). Loosely based on the pre-war Dewoitine D.520, it was intended to be powered by a Hispano-Suiza 24Z piston engine. Production began on a single prototype, but the program was cancelled before it was completed.

SO.8000 Narval(1949)

SNCASO SO.8000 Narval was a French carrier-based strike fighter designed by Sud-Ouest in the late 1940s. The French Navy (Marine nationale) ordered two prototypes in 1946 and they made their maiden flights three years later. 

Torpedo bombers

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Levasseur PL.2 (1926)

The Levasseur PL.2 was a French biplane torpedo bomber designed by Pierre Levasseur for the French Navy.

Levasseur PL.7 (1930)

The Levasseur PL.7 was a torpedo bomber developed in France in the late 1920s It was a development of Levasseur's PL.4 reconnaissance aircraft and intended to replace their PL.2 then in service with the Aéronavale. It was a single-bay biplane of largely conventional design, but incorporating safety features for naval operation, including jetissonable main undercarriage units, a watertight, boat-shaped fuselage, and small floats on the undersides of the lower wings.

Levasseur PL.107(108) (1937)

PL.107 - torpedo bomber version with enclosed cockpit, new lower wing, spatted undercarriage and Gnome-Rhône 9Kfr engine (2 built)

Latécoère Laté 299 (1940)

The Laté 299 torpedo bomber was based on the Latécoère 298 and flew in 1939. A total of 2 examples were built.

S.N.C.A.O. CAO-600(1940)

The SNCAO CAO.600 was a French prototype twin-engined torpedo-bomber of the Second World War. It was intended to operate from two new aircraft carriers of the French Navy, but only a single example had been completed and flown when the surrender of France in June 1940 ended development of the aircraft.

Dewoitine D.750(1940)

The Dewoitine D.750 was a prototype French twin-engined torpedo bomber. It was designed prior to the outbreak of the Second World War to operate from the aircraft carriers of the French Navy, but only a single example was completed, with development ended by France's defeat by Germany in June 1940.

SNCAC NC.1070(1947)

The SNCAC NC.1070 was a piston engined attack and torpedo bomber designed and built in France shortly after World War II. The second prototype, the NC1071, was the first French multi-jet turbine powered aircraft.

Nord 1500 Norclair(1947)

The Nord 1500 Noréclair was a prototype French twin-engined dive bomber and anti-submarine warfare aircraft built at the end of the Second World War. It would have carried both torpedoes, missiles, and bombs. The aircraft was built in response to a need for a dive bomber and anti-submarine aircraft that could be launched both from land and from an aircraft carrier. The first prototype flew on 29 August 1947. The tests revealed many issues that had to be resolved. Eventually the project was abandoned after being criticized heavily and discovering many problems.

Dive bombers

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Levasseur PL.2 (1926)

The Levasseur PL.2 was a French biplane torpedo bomber designed by Pierre Levasseur for the French Navy.

Levasseur PL.7 (1930)

The Levasseur PL.7 was a torpedo bomber developed in France in the late 1920s It was a development of Levasseur's PL.4 reconnaissance aircraft and intended to replace their PL.2 then in service with the Aéronavale. It was a single-bay biplane of largely conventional design, but incorporating safety features for naval operation, including jetissonable main undercarriage units, a watertight, boat-shaped fuselage, and small floats on the undersides of the lower wings.

Levasseur PL.107(108) (1937)

PL.107 - torpedo bomber version with enclosed cockpit, new lower wing, spatted undercarriage and Gnome-Rhône 9Kfr engine (2 built)

Loire-Nieuport LN.410(1939)

The Loire-Nieuport LN.40 aircraft were a family of French naval dive-bombers for the Aeronavale in the late 1930s, which saw service during World War II.

Loire-Nieuport LN.42(1940)

In the previously created dive bombers LN.401 and LN.411, the lower part of the rudder was divided along the vertical axis into two parts using a hydraulic drive, turning in opposite directions perpendicular to the fuselage and slowing down the aircraft. If this did not work, then the fairings of the main landing gear, which were extended during a dive, took over the role of air brakes.
A similar problem was solved by the LN.42 (this designation was given to an improved dive bomber). In the new aircraft, the main landing gear retracted back into the wing with the wheels rotated 90 ° relative to the supports, so that the legs fit completely into the wing console. The main strut mounts and wheels were equipped with large flaps with separate hydraulic control and acted as brake flaps.

Bréguet Br.810(1940)

The latest modification of the basic Br.690, created by Ricard, was the Br.810, a two-seat carrier-based attack bomber. It was a response to the assignment under the AB2 program, issued in October 1939. The Br.810 glider was similar to its predecessors, but the consoles could be folded. Introduced landing shields and a hook.

Latécoère Laté 299 (1940)

The Laté 299 torpedo bomber was based on the Latécoère 298 and flew in 1939. A total of 2 examples were built.

S.N.C.A.O. CAO-600(1940)

The SNCAO CAO.600 was a French prototype twin-engined torpedo-bomber of the Second World War. It was intended to operate from two new aircraft carriers of the French Navy, but only a single example had been completed and flown when the surrender of France in June 1940 ended development of the aircraft.

Dewoitine D.750(1940)

The Dewoitine D.750 was a prototype French twin-engined torpedo bomber. It was designed prior to the outbreak of the Second World War to operate from the aircraft carriers of the French Navy, but only a single example was completed, with development ended by France's defeat by Germany in June 1940.

Nord 1500 Norclair(1947)

The Nord 1500 Noréclair was a prototype French twin-engined dive bomber and anti-submarine warfare aircraft built at the end of the Second World War. It would have carried both torpedoes, missiles, and bombs. The aircraft was built in response to a need for a dive bomber and anti-submarine aircraft that could be launched both from land and from an aircraft carrier. The first prototype flew on 29 August 1947. The tests revealed many issues that had to be resolved. Eventually the project was abandoned after being criticized heavily and discovering many problems.

Bréguet Br 960 Vultur (1951)

Bréguet Br 960 Vultur was a prototype two-seat carrier-based attack and anti-submarine aircraft (ASW) built for the French Navy (Marine Nationale) during the early 1950s. Meeting contradictory endurance and speed requirements, it was designed as a "mixed-power" aircraft with a turboprop engine in the front and a turbojet in the rear. Only two examples were built, but the second aircraft was rebuilt as the prototype of the Bréguet 1050 Alizé ASW aircraft after the Navy dropped the idea of a turboprop attack aircraft in the mid-1950s.

 

Suspended armament

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Rockets

• 3.5-inch FFAR (90 mm)
• 5-inch FFAR (127 mm)
• T-10 Type 140 90 mm
• T-10 Type 140 120 mm

Torpedoes

• 26DA (various modifications)

Bombs

• 50-kg G.P. Mle 1921
• 50-kg G.P. Mle 1925
• 50-kg G.P. Mle 1928
• 100-kg G.P. Mle 1930
• 125-kg G.P. Naval
• 200-kg G.P. Mle 1930
• 500-kg G.P. Mle 1930 (Similiar to Bearn)
• 500-kg G.P. No. 1
• 500-kg G.P. No. 2

If you don't like my posts, PLEASE don't comment them, don't bring yourself and me into conflict.

This is my and youre personal proposal and not the fact that ships will ever appear in the game or my concept will be taken into attention!

 Thank you for your attention!

 

[invicta2012]

The thing about CVs is that, unless there is something *very* distinctive about the ships - Saratoga's 8inch main battery, Graf Zep's secondaries - it's all about the planes. So WG need to harness the lunacy of French naval aviation. Float planes! Twin Engines! Gull Wings! Push-pull turbojets! The French Aviation industry was as distinctive and eccentric as their car industry... so I want to see the equivalent of a 2CV or DS...

 

I enjoy playing Bearn - the skip bombers are great fun - and I'd like to see those on the main line as a primary method of attack.  There are some real-world planes like the LN40/LN401 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loire-Nieuport_LN.401 - which would work for this. The LN40 was a dive bomber which was actually rubbish at being a dive bomber, but quite speedy for Tier VI (cruise speed around 60mph faster than a Stuka), so why not repurpose as a skip bomber? 

 

Otherwise... big heavy torpedo planes, love those!  it would be nice to have some of this sort of thing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loire-Nieuport_10) and perhaps end with the Alize, Vultur  - there's a lot of options in those designs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bréguet_960_Vultur

[TheKaramelka]

48 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

The thing about CVs is that, unless there is something *very* distinctive about the ships - Saratoga's 8inch main battery, Graf Zep's secondaries - it's all about the planes. So WG need to harness the lunacy of French naval aviation. Float planes! Twin Engines! Gull Wings! Push-pull turbojets! The French Aviation industry was as distinctive and eccentric as their car industry... so I want to see the equivalent of a 2CV or DS...

 

I enjoy playing Bearn - the skip bombers are great fun - and I'd like to see those on the main line as a primary method of attack.  There are some real-world planes like the LN40/LN401 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loire-Nieuport_LN.401 - which would work for this. The LN40 was a dive bomber which was actually rubbish at being a dive bomber, but quite speedy for Tier VI (cruise speed around 60mph faster than a Stuka), so why not repurpose as a skip bomber? 

 

Otherwise... big heavy torpedo planes, love those!  it would be nice to have some of this sort of thing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loire-Nieuport_10) and perhaps end with the Alize, Vultur  - there's a lot of options in those designs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bréguet_960_Vultur

since now branches are being introduced with the features of super ships (as Pan-Americans showed), I suggest the following: air groups are fast enough and have a standard margin of safety (on average-above average), but at the same time there are much fewer aircraft than others. Aircraft carriers will not have attack aircraft, torpedo bombers are equipped with slow torpedoes with low damage, and bombers - skip with high damage. Tactical squadrons will be from level 6 and will be presented in the form of heavy twin-engine aircraft, bombers. They stand out for their high survivability and large link size.

 

Carriers

Tier IV - Commandant Teste conversation 

Tier VI - PA 4

Tier VIII - Joffre

Tier X - Jean Bart conversation 

 

Aircraft (Torpedo bombers/Skip Bombers/Tactical bombers)

Tier IV - Lavasseur PL.7/Lavasseur PL.2

Tier V - Lavasseur PL.7/Loire-Nieport LN.401

Tier VI - Lavasseur PL.107(108)/Loire-Nieport LN.410/S.N.C.A.O. CAO-600

Tier VII - Bloch MB.175T/Potez 632

Tier VIII - Latécoère Laté 299/Bréguet Br.810/Dewoitine D.750

Tier IX - SNCAC NC.1070/SNCAC NC.1070

Tier X - Bréguet Br 960 Vultur/Bréguet Br 960 Vultur/Nord 1500 Norclair

 

 Armament on aircraft 

Tier IV - 26 DA (Damage 4600, Speed 32 kts), 125-kg G.P. Naval bomb (Damage 7600, 40 mm, 44%)

Tier V - 26 DA (Damage 4600, Speed 32 kts), 200-kg G.P. mle 1930 (Damage 7900, 43 mm, 47%)

Tier VI - 26 DA mle 1 (Damage 5567, speed 32), 200-kg G.P. mle 1930 (Damage 7900, 43 mm, 47%)

Tier VII - 26 DA mle 1 (Damage 5567, speed 32), 200-kg G.P. mle 1930 (Damage 7900, 43 mm, 47%)

Tier VIII - 26 DA mle 1 (Damage 5567, speed 32), 500-kg G.P. No.2 (Damage 11000, 56 mm, 60%)

Tier IX - 26 DA mle 2 (Damage 6600, speed 32), 500-kg G.P. No.2 (Damage 11000, 56 mm, 60%)

Tier X - 26 DA mle 2 (Damage 6600, speed 32), 500-kg G.P. No.1 (Damage 11100, 58 mm, 63%)

[TheKaramelka]

well, or the second proposal, the main air groups are represented by attack aircraft and skip bombers, the tactical link is represented by torpedo bombers. Missiles are similar to British ones, bombs have medium damage and penetration, and torpedoes have high damage and speed

Then will be the next:

 

Aircraft (Attack aircraft/Skip Bombers/Tactical torpedo bombers)

 

Tier IV - Dewoitine D.1ter/Lavasseur PL.7

 

Tier V - Lavasseur PL.5/Loire-Nieport LN.410

 

Tier VI - Dewoitine D.376/Loire-Nieport LN.42/S.N.C.A.O. CAO-600

 

Tier VII - Bréguet-Latécoère Laté-675/Latécoère Laté 299

 

Tier VIII - Dewoitine D.790/Bréguet Br.810/Dewoitine D.750

 

Tier IX - SNCASE SE.580/SNCAC NC.1070

 

Tier X - SO.8000 Narval/Bréguet Br 960 Vultur/Nord 1500 Norclair

 

Armament on aircraft 

 

Tier IV - 3.5-inch FFAR (Damage 1350, 19 mm, 5%), 100-kg G.P. mle 1930 (Damage 6100, 33 mm, 35%)

 

Tier V - 3.5-inch FFAR (Damage 1350, 19 mm, 5%), 125-kg G.P. Naval (Damage 6600, 36 mm, 38%)

 

Tier VI - 3.5-inch FFAR (Damage 1350, 19 mm, 5%), 26 DA (Damage 4400, Speed 56 kts), 200-kg G.P. mle 1930 (Damage 7900, 43 mm, 47%)

 

Tier VII - 5-inch FFAR (Damage 1900, 27 mm, 7%), 200-kg G.P. mle 1930 (Damage 7900, 43 mm, 47%)

 

Tier VIII - 5-inch FFAR (Damage 1900, 27 mm, 7%), 26 DA mle 1 (Damage 5900, speed 56), 500-kg G.P. No.2 (Damage 8100, 55 mm, 60%)

 

Tier IX - T-10 Type 140 120 mm (Damage 2100, 28 mm, 9%), 500-kg G.P. No.2 (Damage 8100, 55 mm, 60%)

 

Tier X - T-10 Type 140 120 mm (Damage 2100, 28 mm, 9%), 26 DA mle 2 (Damage 7676, speed 56), 500-kg G.P. No.1 (Damage 8800, 57 mm, 63%)

 

[TheKaramelka]

On 12/7/2022 at 10:59 PM, invicta2012 said:

The thing about CVs is that, unless there is something *very* distinctive about the ships - Saratoga's 8inch main battery, Graf Zep's secondaries - it's all about the planes. So WG need to harness the lunacy of French naval aviation. Float planes! Twin Engines! Gull Wings! Push-pull turbojets! The French Aviation industry was as distinctive and eccentric as their car industry... so I want to see the equivalent of a 2CV or DS...

 

I enjoy playing Bearn - the skip bombers are great fun - and I'd like to see those on the main line as a primary method of attack.  There are some real-world planes like the LN40/LN401 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loire-Nieuport_LN.401 - which would work for this. The LN40 was a dive bomber which was actually rubbish at being a dive bomber, but quite speedy for Tier VI (cruise speed around 60mph faster than a Stuka), so why not repurpose as a skip bomber? 

 

Otherwise... big heavy torpedo planes, love those!  it would be nice to have some of this sort of thing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loire-Nieuport_10) and perhaps end with the Alize, Vultur  - there's a lot of options in those designs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bréguet_960_Vultur

Tech tree features:

• The maximum speed is increased by 50 kts instead of 40 and 35;
• High speed with average aircraft survivability;
• The tactical squadron is distinguished by high speed, survivability and a large link, but the afterburner is not restored and they have no equipment;
• In the presence of a standard air group of attack aircraft, skip bombers as well as a tactical air group of torpedo bombers;
• Attack aircraft are similar to British ones, with low damage and missile penetration;
• Bombers carry bombs similar to Soviet ones;
• Torpedoes - have fairly good damage and high speed;

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French aircraft carrier Commandant Teste, Tier IV

Post-war project of restructuring into an escort aircraft carrier, a large hydro-aircraft carrier. The aircraft carrier could have been intended for training pilots, but the project was abandoned due to the high cost.

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Displacement: 11900 t.

Plating: 13 mm

Deck: 13 mm

Armor belt: 30 mm

Overall length: 167 m

Hit points: 30800

Torpedo protection: 7%

Attack Aircraft: Dewoitine D.1ter

Number of aircrafton deck: 9

Aircraft per squadron: 6

Size of attacking flight: 2

Hit points: 1200

Speed: 122

Max speed: 172

Engine boost time: 10

Engine boost reload time: 20

Rockets type: 3,5-Inch FFAR

Machine gun action time: 3 sec

Max HE Damage: 1350

Number of rockets on the plane: 4

Fire chance: 5

Armor penetration of HE: 19 mm

Aircraft recovery time: 47 sec

Skip bombers: Levasseur PL.7

Number of aircrafton deck: 9

Aircraft per squadron: 6

Size of attacking flight: 2

Hit points: 1410

Speed: 100

Max speed: 150

Engine boost time: 20

Engine boost reload time: 40

Bomb type: HE 100-kg. G.P. Mle 1930

Max Bomb Damage: 6100

Number of bombs on the plane: 1

Fire Chance: 35%

Armor penetration of HE bombs: 33 mm

Number of skips: 1

Aircraft recovery time: 55 sec

Secondary Armament:

4х1 100-mm/45 Mle 1930

      Reload time: 4 sec

      Max Damage: 1400

      Fire Chance: 6%

      Armor penetration: 17 mm

      Firing range: 4,0 km

      HE initial velocity: 780 m/s

AA defense:

4х1 100-mm/45 Mle 1930

6х1 37-mm/50 Mle 1925

6х2 13,2-mm Hotchkiss Mle 1929

Maximum speed: 20,5 kts.

Turning circle radius: 740 m

Rudder shift time: 7,8 sec

Surface detectability: 8,7 km

Air detectability: 6,4 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Fighter

French aircraft carrier Île-de-France, Tier VI

PA4 was an enlarged version of PA3. Within the limits of the Naval Treaties only 3 ships of this design could have been built. With a higher top speed, however, this ship could have better operated together with the cruiser and big destroyers of the French Navy.

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Displacement: 19000 t.

Plating: 13 mm

Deck: 13 mm

Armor belt: 100 mm

Overall length: 222 m

Hit points: 43900

Torpedo protection: 16%

Attack Aircraft: Dewoitine D.376

Number of aircrafton deck: 9

Aircraft per squadron: 6

Size of attacking flight: 2

Hit points: 1310

Speed: 137

Max speed: 187

Engine boost time: 10

Engine boost reload time: 20

Rockets type: 3,5-Inch FFAR

Machine gun action time: 3 sec

Max HE Damage: 1350

Number of rockets on the plane: 8

Fire chance: 5%

Armor penetration of HE: 19 mm

Aircraft recovery time: 50 sec

Skip bombers: Loire-Nieport LN.42

Number of aircrafton deck: 9

Aircraft per squadron: 6

Size of attacking flight: 2

Hit points: 1560

Speed: 120

Max speed: 170

Engine boost time: 20

Engine boost reload time: 40

Bomb type: HE 200-kg. G.P. Mle 1930

Max Bomb Damage: 7900

Number of bombs on the plane: 1

Fire Chance: 47%

Armor penetration of HE bombs: 43 mm

Number of skips: 2

Aircraft recovery time: 58 sec

Tactical torpedo bombers: S.N.C.A.O. CAO-600

Size of attacking flight: 6

Hit points: 1980

Speed: 112

Max speed: 162

Engine boost time: 20

Engine boost reload time: 40

Torpedo type: 26 DA 

Max Torpedo Damage: 4400

Number of torpedoes on the aircraft: 1

Torpedo speed: 56

Torpedo range: 6 km

Arming range of torpedoes: 564 m

Flood chance: 34%

Squadration recovery time: 360 sec

Secondary Armament:

6х2 100-mm/45 Mle 1930

      Reload time: 4 sec

      Max Damage: 1400

      Fire Chance: 6%

      Armor penetration: 17 mm

      Firing range: 5,6 km

      HE initial velocity: 780 m/s

AA defense:

6х2 100-mm/45 Mle 1930

6x2 100-mm/45 Mle 1930

8x1 37-мм/50 Mle 1925

Maximum speed: 30,2 kts.

Turning circle radius: 900 m

Rudder shift time: 11,9 sec

Surface detectability: 11,6 km

Air detectability: 9,6 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Fighter

French aircraft carrier Joffre, Tier VIII

Joffre class consisted of a pair of aircraft carriers ordered by the Marine Nationale (French Navy) prior to World War II. The Navy had commissioned an experimental carrier in 1927, but it was slow and obsolete by the mid-1930s. Support for naval aviation in the navy was weak during this time as it had lost control of its aircraft, their training and their development to the new Air Ministry when it formed in 1928 and did not regain full control until 1936. Traditionalists among the naval leadership had begun a battleship building program in the early 1930s to counter German ships that were suitable for commerce raiding and carriers were deemed useful to hunt them down, especially once the Germans began building a carrier of their own in 1936.

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Displacement: 22000 t.

Plating: 16 mm

Deck: 70 mm

Armor belt: 105 mm

Overall length: 236 m

Hit points: 53700

Torpedo protection: 16%

Attack Aircraft: Dewoitine D.790

Number of aircrafton deck: 12

Aircraft per squadron: 8

Size of attacking flight: 2

Hit points: 1440

Speed: 169

Max speed: 211

Engine boost time: 10

Engine boost reload time: 20

Rockets type: 5-Inch FFAR

Machine gun action time: 5 sec

Max HE Damage: 1900

Number of rockets on the plane: 10

Fire chance: 7%

Armor penetration of HE: 27 mm

Aircraft recovery time: 55 sec

Skip bombers: Bréguet Br.810

Number of aircrafton deck: 12

Aircraft per squadron: 8

Size of attacking flight: 2

Hit points: 1710

Speed: 148

Max speed: 198

Engine boost time: 20

Engine boost reload time: 40

Bomb type: HE 500-kg G.P. No.2

Max Bomb Damage: 8100

Number of bombs on the plane: 1

Fire Chance: 60%

Armor penetration of HE bombs: 55 mm

Number of skips: 3

Aircraft recovery time: 52 sec

Tactical torpedo bombers: Dewoitine D.750

Size of attacking flight: 7

Hit points: 2240

Speed: 148

Max speed: 198

Engine boost time: 20

Engine boost reload time: 40

Torpedo type: 26 DA mle 1

Max Torpedo Damage: 5900

Number of torpedoes on the aircraft: 1

Torpedo speed: 56

Torpedo range: 7,5 km

Arming range of torpedoes: 575 m

Flood chance: 41%

Squadration recovery time: 360 sec

Secondary Armament:

6х2 130-мм/45 Mle 1932

      Reload time: 5 sec

      Max Damage: 1900

      Fire Chance: 9%

      Armor penetration: 22 mm

      Firing range: 6,6 km

      HE initial velocity: 840 m/s

AA defense:

6х2 130-мм/45 Mle 1932

8x2 37-мм/70 Mle 1935

12x2 25-мм/60 Mle 1939

Maximum speed: 34 kts.

Turning circle radius: 1070 m

Rudder shift time: 12,2 sec

Surface detectability: 12,2 km

Air detectability: 9,7 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Fighter

French aircraft carrier Dominica, Tier X

Post-war project to convert the battleship Jean Bart into a heavy aircraft carrier.

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Displacement: 33900 t.

Plating: 19 mm

Deck: 105 mm

Armor belt: 152 mm

Overall length: 247,8 m

Hit points: 66100

Torpedo protection: 22%

Attack Aircraft: S.O.8000 Narval

Number of aircrafton deck: 14

Aircraft per squadron: 9

Size of attacking flight: 3

Hit points: 1600

Speed: 178

Max speed: 228

Engine boost time: 10

Engine boost reload time: 20

Rockets type: T-10 Type 140 120 mm

Machine gun action time: 5,5 sec

Max HE Damage: 2100

Number of rockets on the plane: 8

Fire chance: 9%

Armor penetration of HE: 28 mm

Aircraft recovery time: 59 sec

Skip bombers: Bréguet Br 960 Vultur

Number of aircrafton deck: 18

Aircraft per squadron: 9

Size of attacking flight: 3

Hit points: 1840

Speed: 162

Max speed: 212

Engine boost time: 20

Engine boost reload time: 40

Bomb type: HE 500-kg G.P. No.1

Max Bomb Damage: 8800

Number of bombs on the plane: 1

Fire Chance: 63%

Armor penetration of HE bombs: 57 mm

Number of skips: 3

Aircraft recovery time: 59 sec

Tactical torpedo bombers: Nord 1500 Norclair

Size of attacking flight: 8

Hit points: 2980

Speed: 151

Max speed: 201

Engine boost time: 20

Engine boost reload time: 40

Torpedo type: 26 DA mle 2

Max Torpedo Damage: 7676

Number of torpedoes on the aircraft: 1

Torpedo speed: 56

Torpedo range: 9 km

Arming range of torpedoes: 611 m

Flood chance: 48%

Squadration recovery time: 360 sec

Secondary Armament:

12x2 100-мм/55 Mle 1950

      Reload time: 1,5 sec

      Max Damage: 1400

      Fire Chance: 5%

      Armor penetration: 17 mm

      Firing range: 7,3 km

      HE initial velocity: 780 m/s

AA defense:

12x2 100-мм/55 Mle 1950

12х2 57-mm/60 Mle 1951

Maximum speed: 34 kts.

Turning circle radius: 1050 m

Rudder shift time: 16 sec

Surface detectability: 14,2 km

Air detectability: 11,3 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Fighter

 

Premium ship:

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French aircraft carrier Clemenceau, Tier VIII

Project of a light aircraft carrier of the French Navy. Developed in the late 1940s, the preliminary design was prepared by August 1947. The first ship of the project was planned to be laid down at the shipyard of the naval arsenal in Brest. It was to be called "Clemenceau". The design was based on the project of the Joffre aircraft carrier, which was unfinished due to the outbreak of World War II, but was significantly improved. In 1950, the project was closed at the stage of prototype development. 

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Displacement: 20000 t.

Plating: 16 mm

Deck: 16 mm

Armor belt: 19 mm

Overall length: 230 m

Hit points: 55100

Torpedo protection: 12%

Attack Aircraft: Dewoitine SE.580

Number of aircrafton deck: 16

Aircraft per squadron: 8

Size of attacking flight: 4

Hit points: 1180

Speed: 178

Max speed: 228

Engine boost time: 10

Engine boost reload time: 20

Rockets type: HVAR 127 mm

Machine gun action time: 3,4 sec

Max HE Damage: 2000

Number of rockets on the plane: 8

Fire chance: 7

Armor penetration of HE: 33 mm

Aircraft recovery time: 64 sec

Torpedo bombers: SNCAC NC.1070

Number of aircrafton deck: 16

Aircraft per squadron: 8

Size of attacking flight: 4

Hit points: 1205

Speed: 165

Max speed: 215

Engine boost time: 20

Engine boost reload time: 40

Torpedo type: 26 DA mle 1

Max Torpedo Damage: 5900

Number of torpedoes on the aircraft: 1

Torpedo speed: 56

Torpedo range: 7,5 km

Arming range of torpedoes: 575 m

Flood chance: 41%

Aircraft recovery time: 92 sec

Tactical level bombers: Nord 1500 Norclair

Size of attacking flight: 4

Hit points: 2980

Speed: 151

Max speed: 201

Engine boost time: 20

Engine boost reload time: 40

Bomb type: HE 500-kg G.P. No.1

Max Bomb Damage: 8800

Number of bombs on the plane: 1

Fire Chance: 63%

Armor penetration of HE bombs: 57 mm

Aircraft recovery time: 240 sec

Secondary Armament:

8х2 100-mm/55 Mle 1945

      Reload time: 3 sec

      Max Damage: 1400

      Fire Chance: 5%

      Armor penetration: 17 mm

      Firing range: 6,6 km

      HE initial velocity: 855 m/s

AA defense:

8х2 100-mm/55 Mle 1945

8х2 57-mm/60 Mle 1951

Maximum speed: 32 kts.

Turning circle radius: 920 m

Rudder shift time: 12,3 sec

Surface detectability: 12 km

Air detectability: 10 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Fighter

French aircraft carrier La Rochelle, Tier VI

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Displacement: 17300 t.

Plating: 13 mm

Deck: 13 mm

Armor belt: 110 mm

Overall length: 220 m

Hit points: 37400

Torpedo protection: 2%

Attack Aircraft: Dewoitine D.1ter

Number of aircrafton deck: 12

Aircraft per squadron: 9

Size of attacking flight: 3

Hit points: 1200

Speed: 122

Max speed: 172

Engine boost time: 10

Engine boost reload time: 20

Rockets type: 3,5-Inch FFAR

Machine gun action time: 3 sec

Max HE Damage: 1350

Number of rockets on the plane: 4

Fire chance: 5

Armor penetration of HE: 19 mm

Aircraft recovery time: 51 sec

Torpedo bombers: Levasseur PL.107

Number of aircrafton deck: 9

Aircraft per squadron: 6

Size of attacking flight: 3

Hit points: 1460

Speed: 128

Max speed: 178

Engine boost time: 20

Engine boost reload time: 40

Torpedo type: 26 DA 

Max Torpedo Damage: 4400

Number of torpedoes on the aircraft: 1

Torpedo speed: 56

Torpedo range: 6 km

Arming range of torpedoes: 564 m

Flood chance: 34%

Aircraft recovery time: 66 sec

Skip bombers: Vought V-156F

Number of aircrafton deck: 12

Aircraft per squadron: 8

Size of attacking flight: 2

Hit points: 1490

Speed: 123

Max speed: 158

Engine boost time: 20

Engine boost reload time: 40

Bomb type: AP 500-kg G.P. Mle 1930

Max Bomb Damage: 6300

Number of bombs on the plane: 1

Armor penetration of AP bombs: 264 mm

Number of skips: 2

Aircraft recovery time: 58 sec

Secondary Armament:

6х2 100-mm/45 Mle 1930

      Reload time: 4 sec

      Max Damage: 1400

      Fire Chance: 6%

      Armor penetration: 17 mm

      Firing range: 5,6 km

      HE initial velocity: 780 m/s

AA defense:

6x2 100-mm/45 Mle 1930

8x4 13,2-мм/76 Mle 1929

Maximum speed: 36 kts.

Turning circle radius: 890 m

Rudder shift time: 10,0 sec

Surface detectability: 11,4 km

Air detectability: 9,0 km

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Fighter

 

What do you think about it?

[invicta2012]

I quite like the line. Clearly the French mastered naval aviation in the 50s but during the WoWs era they are still finding their feet, so there's a lot of experimentation going on.

 

I do find Bearn a very good jumping off point for a CV line, I think she's distinctive and useful (especially the skip bombers), so for the main line I would keep her skip bombers and patrol fighters, but replace the AP bombers with heavier torpedo planes. Compared to Bearn I think the VI, VIII and X should have good speed and good AA (if the idea is to end with a JB conversion then clearly this would have very good AA as well as the possibility of some secondary based-fun). However this converted BB form should have a smaller air group and slower plane regen than a purpose built CV. 

 

Ships would be

 

IV - Commandante Teste

VI - Pégoud (named after Adolphe Pegoud, the first WW1 fighter ace and a notable figure in the development of French military aviation)

VIII - Joffre

X - Clemenceau (this feels better for a Richelieu conversion, as it was assigned to the Richelieu class but never built). 

 

Planes would be....

 

IV - PL107 (Torpedo Bomber) / Latecoere 298 (Skip Bomber) / Dewoitine 376 (Fighter)

VI - Dewoitine 750  (Torpedo Bomber) / LN410 (Skip Bomber) / Dewoitine 520 (Fighter)

VIII - Grumman Avenger (Torpedo Bomber)  SNCAC CAO 600 (Skip Bomber) / Grumman F6F (Fighter)

X -  SNCAC 170 (Torpedo Bomber) / Breguet Vultur (Skip Bomber) / F4U Corsair (Fighter)

 

Torpedo bombers are reasonably fast and well protected but not especially manoeuvrable. Their torpedoes are mid-range for speed but do good damage.

Skip bombers are fast and easy to manoeuvre but have only moderate HP, and their bombs have limited armour penetration. 

Patrol fighters do not spot, but they are long lasting, have high HP, and are capable of destroying an entire incoming flight. 

[TheKaramelka]

5 hours ago, invicta2012 said:

I quite like the line. Clearly the French mastered naval aviation in the 50s but during the WoWs era they are still finding their feet, so there's a lot of experimentation going on.

Not quite so, because Republique is our completion project based on the battleships Gasconge by a large battleship after the war, like the battleship Jean Bart. Henri IV and Kleber, although they are projects from the Second World War, they were also completed in the post-war period, by the 50s (as indicated by air defense installations and secondary)

About AA: mmm, well, we can calculate, in principle, air defense of the 10th level.
No near aura
Medium Aura 305 (similar to République due to the same number of 57mm mounts), 3.8 km
Far aura - 384 (based on the damage of Patrie launchers since they are similar to them, and there are 4 more of them), range is 5.2 km

For comparison:

Hakuryū - no near aura, Medium -  242/3.5 km, far aura - 249/5.0 km

Midway - Near aura - 170/2.0 km, Medium aura - 283/3.5 km, far aura - 199/5.2 km

Manfred von Richthofen - no near aura, Medium -  199/4.0 km, far aura - 292/4.5 km

Admiral Nakhimov - no near aura, Medium -  200/4.0 km, far aura - 237/5.2 km

Audacious - no near aura, Medium -  263/3.5 km, far aura - 71/5.0 km

5 hours ago, invicta2012 said:

IV - Commandante Teste

VI - Pégoud (named after Adolphe Pegoud, the first WW1 fighter ace and a notable figure in the development of French military aviation)

VIII - Joffre

X - Clemenceau (this feels better for a Richelieu conversion, as it was assigned to the Richelieu class but never built). 

What is the project? PA 4 or smt else?

About Clemenceau, i dont thing so. The problem is that the PA 28 project was named Clemenceau in 1947, while the Jean Bart project is from the 1950s.

5 hours ago, invicta2012 said:

Planes would be....

 

IV - PL107 (Torpedo Bomber) / Latecoere 298 (Skip Bomber) / Dewoitine 376 (Fighter)

VI - Dewoitine 750  (Torpedo Bomber) / LN410 (Skip Bomber) / Dewoitine 520 (Fighter)

VIII - Grumman Avenger (Torpedo Bomber)  SNCAC CAO 600 (Skip Bomber) / Grumman F6F (Fighter)

X -  SNCAC 170 (Torpedo Bomber) / Breguet Vultur (Skip Bomber) / F4U Corsair (Fighter)

Aircraft, in fact, almoust all of you have chosen unsuccessfully because of the time period ans some of them was not naval aircraft, I will write like this, the name of the aircraft carrier and in brackets the year of attack aircraft, torpedo bombers and bombers:

IV - Hosho (1935/1936/1934)/Langley(1935/1927/1933)/Rhein(1934/1936/1931)/Komsomolets(1933/1935/1931)/Hermes(1934/1938/1936)
PL.107 and D.376 could have approached this level over the years, however, I reviewed one video when Bearn was first introduced (without features at that time).

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The developers consider these aircraft as level 6 and not level 4. 

Latecoere 298 - in general, a seaplane, although it took off from the Commandant Teste, however, if you offer carrier-based aircraft, then deck-based and not seaplanes should be considered. Its deck modification is 299, which was developed under Joffre in 1940, and for the 4th level it is extremely late

VI - Ryūjō (1940/1937/1940/, Ranger(1940/1937/1937)/Weser(1938/1935/1935)/Serov(1938/1934/1937)/Furious(1940/1943/1943)

On average, aircraft from the beginning of World War II are located at this level (with the exception of Furious). If you calculate on average, then the year here will be 1938-1940. LN.410 and PL.10 7 are located just in those years. But the Dewoitine 520 was never a naval attack aircraft, or a fighter. However, if you say that you could make it naval, you will be partly right, because the Dewoitine 790 is essentially its naval version, and was developed in 1939, but as in the case of the Dewoitine 750, it was developed for the aircraft carrier Joffre

VIII - Skokaku (1942/1944/1944)/Lexington(1943/1943/1943)/August von Parseval(1941/1939/1939)/Pobeda(1943/1943/1941)/Implecable(1943/1946/1946)

Here you upset me very much, like the developers, by pushing the Americans in again. I was wildly upset to see the Vindicator at Bearn, while they had quite big plans for naval aviation (and there were quite a few projects during this period, such as Bréguet Br.810, Latécoère Laté 299, S.N.C.A.O. CA O-60 0, Dewoitine D.7 50, Bréguet-Latécoère Laté-675, De woitine D.790. Also, if Bearn has Ranger bombers, then you decided to put Ranger fighters here. S.N.C.A.O. CAO-600 agrees, it was developed as times for Joffre.Due to the fact that France capitulated in 1940, it is naturally better to take aviation from these years.

Х - Hakuryū (1945/1944/1944)/Midway(1944/1944/1944)/Manfred von Richthofen(1943/1945/1945)/Admiral Nakhimov(1946/1942/1944)/Audacious(1946/1946/1946)

As you can see, the aviation of the end of the war / post-war period is located here. In principle, you put Vultur and NC 1070 quite well here (although I personally like Nord 1500 Norclair more externally, but this is my personal preference)