Incomparable strong in ranked/random?

[luokailk]

Hi guys, Incomparable strong in ranked/random? Compared to other steel BB

Edit: how good is she compared to her silver sister St Vincent?

[Montrala]

In correct hands, yes. But it is not easy to play ship. My hands are not correct

[Yxkraft]

3 hours ago, luokailk said:

Hi guys, Incomparable strong in ranked/random? Compared to other steel BB

No it is not, its also very rare to see in ranked gold. 

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

10 hours ago, luokailk said:

Hi guys, Incomparable strong in ranked/random? Compared to other steel BB

Yes. Unless there is sky. Then not. Unless lucky and not permanently spotted.

 

 

[luokailk]

So it’s the worst steel BB compared to Bgn and Shiki?😅

[Deksi_4]

7 hours ago, luokailk said:

So it’s the worst steel BB compared to Bgn and Shiki?😅

@luokailkIncomparable is a ship that have a excellent concealment for a bb. Her playstile is to sneak to the enemy and to shoot and devastate broadside targets. But sneaking to the enemy has become very difficult because of enemy CVs, subs and dds that permaspot you all the time. It is a reawarding ship in good hands, which I dont have🙂Incomparable has 25 mm bow and aft armor so she takes citadels and full penetrations even when angled perfectly. If you want to take her for steel it is up to you because only you know how good you are. If someone is an average or below average player, I would suggest to first pick up Bourgogne and Shikishima. This two are easier to play because of long gun range that they have 24.5 km. Incomparable have 17.6 km range which is very short in tier 10 games. But Wows devs intentionaly gave her this pittyfull range, because they think that in this long range meta, you can sneak up to the red team at 12 km and less and use your 10 km torps and guns. But average player who do that early when game starts is easily killed in the process. That is perhaps the reason I rarely see Incomparable in Randoms. 

[Onsterfelijke]

In hands of the very good players almost every ship is strong or OP so the Incomparable is strong but in hands of the most players it's a soso ship.

[Figment]

20 hours ago, luokailk said:

Hi guys, Incomparable strong in ranked/random? Compared to other steel BB

We can't know, there's no way to compare.

[lovelacebeer]

Although I like the Incomparable I would be reluctant to take her into ranked.
 

Her high speed and good concealment for a BB suit surprise flanking attacks,  great in randoms or bigger team events like Dirigible Derby but in ranked I wouldn’t want to risk it. I’m just not that good. 

[Kruzenstern]

Well, Incomparable is an absolute monster in co-op because of her speed and calibre. And she did surprisingly well in the 1v1 brawls for me, despite the lack of armor she is a good 1v1 brawler because she applies hefty damage with her incredible gun calibre and single-fire torps, while bouncing a lot of enemy fire when angled.

Randoms with CVs, she will likely fare poorly, being permaspotted and fired at from all angles. When you get her somewhat broadsidey, she is just a huge damage pinata to be farmed.

[Sir_Sinksalot]

Is it anything like the St Vinnie which is a ship I like?

[luokailk]

23 hours ago, Deksi_4 said:

@luokailkIncomparable is a ship that have a excellent concealment for a bb. Her playstile is to sneak to the enemy and to shoot and devastate broadside targets. But sneaking to the enemy has become very difficult because of enemy CVs, subs and dds that permaspot you all the time. It is a reawarding ship in good hands, which I dont have🙂Incomparable has 25 mm bow and aft armor so she takes citadels and full penetrations even when angled perfectly. If you want to take her for steel it is up to you because only you know how good you are. If someone is an average or below average player, I would suggest to first pick up Bourgogne and Shikishima. This two are easier to play because of long gun range that they have 24.5 km. Incomparable have 17.6 km range which is very short in tier 10 games. But Wows devs intentionaly gave her this pittyfull range, because they think that in this long range meta, you can sneak up to the red team at 12 km and less and use your 10 km torps and guns. But average player who do that early when game starts is easily killed in the process. That is perhaps the reason I rarely see Incomparable in Randoms. 

Tx a lot for the detailed explanation! I’ve bgn and played Yamato/satsuma quite a lot, is Shiki quite different from the two ? It would be boring to play another similar ship😅

[luokailk]

19 hours ago, lovelacebeer said:

Although I like the Incomparable I would be reluctant to take her into ranked.
 

Her high speed and good concealment for a BB suit surprise flanking attacks,  great in randoms or bigger team events like Dirigible Derby but in ranked I wouldn’t want to risk it. I’m just not that good. 

Can you elaborate a bit why she is great in random?

[lovelacebeer]

1 minute ago, luokailk said:

Can you elaborate a bit why she is great in random?

I found in randoms her speed and stealth allowed me to get into great ambush positions before ducking away into cover or stealthing back up. 
 

The ability to relocate position quickly means you can really surprise the enemy team and get some lovely broadsides.
 

It’s just that due to her very long hull and armour layout she can take a lot of damage if your caught broadside or under sustained HE spam, that’s why I prefer her in randoms where you can  usually decide to pick your fights. 

[KillStealBoss]

14 minutes ago, luokailk said:

Can you elaborate a bit why she is great in random?

It's a situational ship. And you have to play it safe the first 5 min. But because of CVs it's hard to use the concealment, especially if the CV does notice what you want to do. The lack of range + slow shells (not easy to play it with range mod ) make it very limited. 

[luokailk]

17 minutes ago, KillStealBoss said:

It's a situational ship. And you have to play it safe the first 5 min. But because of CVs it's hard to use the concealment, especially if the CV does notice what you want to do. The lack of range + slow shells (not easy to play it with range mod ) make it very limited. 

Shells slower than Montana?😅 what about the dispersion?

[doerhoff_damian]

That depends

 

If the enemy team allows the incomparable to sail aound the Map unspotted and engage Targets  and disengage at will she will be a Monster. The great Concealment definitly helps there.

But if the Enemy Team can perma spot you, you might be better off with a Yamato. Because the Incomparable has Bow and Stern Armor that can be overmatched by every Battleship

[BrettMRC]

I think she is great in ranked, but you need to play her like a light cruiser or you will get deleted.

If unspotted, and able to make use of your speed to gain a flank she is the ultimate weapon.

[Deksi_4]

1 hour ago, luokailk said:

Tx a lot for the detailed explanation! I’ve bgn and played Yamato/satsuma quite a lot, is Shiki quite different from the two ? It would be boring to play another similar ship😅

@luokailkYou welcome, Shiki is a sidegrade to Satsuma and Yamato. Same mostly sniping playstile like you already know from this other two🙂Shiki is good for lowered maintenance cost at the end of the battle, so she is earning credits instead of loosing it. Yamato and Satsuma always bleed credits even in a good game. So if you are short of credits and want a Japanese sniper, Shiki is wort it. If not, dont get her. If you dont have credit problems it is better that you aquire Incomparable and Bourgogne first because how unique they both are. Incomparable is the one off the most precise ships in the game,battle cruiser dispersion with high sigma but difficult to play due to her 25 mm bow and stern, so you must be perfectly angled at all times. 

[Deksi_4]

42 minutes ago, luokailk said:

Shells slower than Montana?😅 what about the dispersion?

Montana shells are 762 m/s while Incomparable are even slower at 751 m/s. So basicly the same as Montana. So if you like Montana slow plunging shell, you will feel like at home with Incomparable😅Dispersion is fantastic in Incomparable. From all videos I watched on YouTube, she have high sigma and with that dispersion she chunks a lot of health even on bow on bbs. Looking now at the wows wikipedia Shikishima have the exact 762 m/s shells.

That is because they are huge in size so they have slow flight times. 

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

Not shooting is the thing you need to learn with Incomparable. Just sail into their broadsides with 40+ kts, get as close as your detection range allows and then blap the enemy for huge chunks of their HP. And get dark in between, when someone starts aiming at you - until they have turned their guns away again.

Reds just hate this trick.

 

When you shoot from the dark, even light cruisers can't dodge fast enough - because if you're doing it right, they don't even know where the incoming fire alert comes from, at the time you show up at the minimap, he's already dead. Also the relatively slow shells mean less overpens. Accuracy can troll you, but it's not german.

 

You notice why it suffers so much from being spotted, especially from the scourge of the sky. It's also the longest ship in the game and while fast to accelerate and with decent agility, you can still manage to eat all the torps of a FDR drop with a bit of care. This is also the best use in ranked games with CV, just park yourself as a torpedo barrier right against your own CV.

 

You can brawl, it has torps, it's armor is rather weak but it has a hidden icebreaker and when you angle (just ignore your X turret), you can get close to anything. Zombie heal helps, too, against fires in the first place.