[21DCS] Kutfroat Beta Tester 308 posts Report post #1 Posted December 6, 2022 ...title says it all. T10 "silver" cruisers (with 2 exceptions: Des Moines, Petro) have become obsolete in current random games. They have close to "0" impact on game outcome. Congrats WG, this is turning into WoT more and more... 2 4 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2 Posted December 6, 2022 First you make up a theory and then you mention the exceptions Looks like the theory does not fit. Fun fact, Marseille and Goulden Leeuw outperform DM and Petro at the moment... And Nevsky and Venezia do not look too bad either... https://proships.ru/stat/eu/s/99999-h/><i class= And I wonder what some people consider "close to "0" impact on game outcome"? 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #3 Posted December 6, 2022 23 minutes ago, Kutfroat said: ...title says it all. T10 "silver" cruisers (with 2 exceptions: Des Moines, Petro) have become obsolete in current random games. They have close to "0" impact on game outcome. Congrats WG, this is turning into WoT more and more... Dude, your so off in your reasoning its not worth an answer. Play more cruisers or Git Gud 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SUOLA] arttuperkunas Players 1,963 posts 10,936 battles Report post #4 Posted December 6, 2022 Laughs in memetaur 8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hirohito Players 1,717 posts 6,192 battles Report post #5 Posted December 6, 2022 Major exaggeration, but he does have a slight point. Let's not forget that WG has to artificially restrict the number of BBs in serious competitive for a reason. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #6 Posted December 6, 2022 Light cruisers have the worst issues, it's just that some people can still make them work. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VIBES] tocqueville8 Players 3,717 posts 39,407 battles Report post #7 Posted December 6, 2022 This is way above my Tier 10 average... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBHH] Trench4nt Players 2,133 posts Report post #8 Posted December 6, 2022 Vor 21 Minuten, Karkong_the_Impaler sagte: Light cruisers have the worst issues, it's just that some people can still make them work. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #9 Posted December 7, 2022 Solo WR... damage is kinda shite because I specialize in DD smacking. Oh, and before I forget, I am as potater as they come. 50% babyyyyy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPURD] Itwastuesday Players 1,768 posts 13,575 battles Report post #10 Posted December 7, 2022 Well, it's more like they do a job everybody does anyway but with less impact. Too many are designed to just kite to the next map while slinging premium ammo at charging battleships. It's a class born to hunt dinosaurs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KVOR] coldocean Players 521 posts Report post #11 Posted December 7, 2022 Vor 3 Stunden, ColonelPete sagte: First you make up a theory and then you mention the exceptions Looks like the theory does not fit. Fun fact, Marseille and Goulden Leeuw outperform DM and Petro at the moment... And Nevsky and Venezia do not look too bad either... https://proships.ru/stat/eu/s/99999-h/><i class= And I wonder what some people consider "close to "0" impact on game outcome"? Is the Yodo seriously such a bad line? I was thing about putting a commander there to start leveling at T7, but the above table shocks me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPURD] Itwastuesday Players 1,768 posts 13,575 battles Report post #12 Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, coldocean said: Is the Yodo seriously such a bad line? I was thing about putting a commander there to start leveling at T7, but the above table shocks me. It's probably rather bad, but that's a low amount of games still and it's not even actually released yet. I'd wager it'll end up somewhere between Worcester and H4 in winrate. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-N-W] LukkaiCH [S-N-W] Players 547 posts 13,817 battles Report post #13 Posted December 7, 2022 Vor 4 Stunden, Itwastuesday sagte: Too many are designed to just kite to the next map while slinging premium ammo at charging battleships. Now you have me intrigued. Care to share? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SUOLA] arttuperkunas Players 1,963 posts 10,936 battles Report post #14 Posted December 7, 2022 37 minutes ago, LukkaiCH said: Now you have me intrigued. Care to share? He’s making a funny about he 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DK-MK] Varian_Dorn Players 804 posts 19,917 battles Report post #15 Posted December 7, 2022 6 hours ago, coldocean said: Is the Yodo seriously such a bad line? I was thing about putting a commander there to start leveling at T7, but the above table shocks me. Considering Yodo is only used by those who were willing to shell out 20k dubs for it I´d say her numbers aren´t fully representative yet. Expect a clearer picture once Yodo becomes available as a tech ship mid january. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DK-MK] Varian_Dorn Players 804 posts 19,917 battles Report post #16 Posted December 7, 2022 9 hours ago, Kutfroat said: ...title says it all. T10 "silver" cruisers (with 2 exceptions: Des Moines, Petro) have become obsolete in current random games. They have close to "0" impact on game outcome. Congrats WG, this is turning into WoT more and more... I´m gonna pretend you were drunk or something when you wrote that. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #17 Posted December 7, 2022 No. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,306 battles Report post #18 Posted December 7, 2022 6 hours ago, coldocean said: Is the Yodo seriously such a bad line? I was thing about putting a commander there to start leveling at T7, but the above table shocks me. dont know how Yodo is but Omono is ultra great for me. Fun, good and nice cruiser for a tier 7. It even feels a bit stronger from other tier 7 cruisers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #19 Posted December 7, 2022 10 hours ago, Kutfroat said: ...title says it all. T10 "silver" cruisers (with 2 exceptions: Des Moines, Petro) have become obsolete in current random games. They have close to "0" impact on game outcome. Congrats WG, this is turning into WoT more and more... Lemme introduce you to my Marseille and Venezia then But seriously you just need to git gud. There are some harder to play cruisers like Gibraltar, Austin and Colbert that need good positioning and in some maps can really struggle. But those are RB/steel ones. I don't see any techtree cruiser to be as hard to play as those. The closest candidates might be Jinan and Worcester. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PSDNR] Deksi_4 Players 205 posts 15,015 battles Report post #20 Posted December 7, 2022 Yoshino is at the top of every chart😅 Mmmm Yoshimizuuu🐃 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,756 battles Report post #21 Posted December 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Wulf_Ace said: dont know how Yodo is but Omono is ultra great for me. Fun, good and nice cruiser for a tier 7. It even feels a bit stronger from other tier 7 cruisers. Omono and great in the same sentence? No really, have you tried to compare Omono to old man Myoko? Myoko has better AP pen, better HE pen, better alpha strike, better gun dpm, better torpedo count and torpedo dpm (it can even be argued whether the torpedoes are actually better as you trade range and damage for speed and reaction time), better HP and better armor that can actually be made to work. Omono has some straight lining speed, some gun range, some concelment and some torp range. The only thing that Omono has over Myoko is the ability to stealth torp at way better torp angles if there is no enemy DD or CV around, however even then the torpedoes are so lacking in number and quality that I do not find this a big advantage. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-O-M] MadBadDave Players 1,355 posts Report post #22 Posted December 7, 2022 Click bait 🤔, Hindy, Goliath, Petro, Mino, DM, and Venezia , etc say hi. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #23 Posted December 7, 2022 3 hours ago, KillStealBoss said: I don't see any techtree cruiser to be as hard to play as those. The closest candidates might be Jinan and Worcester. Memetaur. Just changed to Ruddershift, an entirely new experience. Is that radar only minotaur clone with HE still a thing? Can't wait... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOFTC] Thalandor_gaming Players 79 posts 28,195 battles Report post #24 Posted December 7, 2022 Vor 13 Stunden, ColonelPete sagte: https://proships.ru/stat/eu/s/99999-h/><i class= In my opinion, that is a surprisingly well balanced WR distribution from best to worst. Only 4 ships (both Yoshino counting as 1) are bad and only 3 ships are better than slightly above average. Also techtree ships being able to keep up with most premiums is a good sign. The only concern I have is, while the top ships are a good mix of serveral distinguished playstyle, the bottom 4 ships are all long range damage farmers. Indicating that this playstyle, however easy and chilled it might be, has objectively too little game impact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SUOLA] arttuperkunas Players 1,963 posts 10,936 battles Report post #25 Posted December 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said: Memetaur. Just changed to Ruddershift, an entirely new experience. Is that radar only minotaur clone with HE still a thing? Can't wait... Double rudder rangemod mino is great for really annoying people. Still prefer concealment build to getting close to caps and assassinating DDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
