Thank you WG for this pleasant gaming experience

[Captain_82]

Today and yesterday was ... well off!

 

I don`t know what players are smoking exactly but it is affecting their gameplay performance.

Three failteams in Operations plus one in Ranked today (well screw that).

More failteams yesterday.
I`m not talking about clueless red potatoes, I`m talking about veteran players with lots of Ops-experience as well.

 

What`s the matter with you guys?

Why do you click into Random Ops when you apparently can`t handle it? Again and again I might add.

Why do you waste my time as well?

Why can`t you survive past the 10-minute-mark?

Is it too much to ask?

 

You were so determined to failure, its unbelievable!

 

[Ubertron_X]

To be honest Aegis is the worst contender for a loss, as the bots spawn very closely clustered at close range with increased HP and put out a lot of focus fire.

 

And IJN HE is the death of every sub 33mm plating and Nagatos 406s is the death of anthing under 32mm too.

[lup3s]

that quadruple Nagato spawn in Aegis yesterday was brutal 

 

 

(and yes, their secondaries sunk all transports )

[PaP_Mentoles]

You pressed "G"? According to WeGreedy is fun and engaging.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Are you using Google Translate, @Captain_82? Because it's almost like there is a hint of sarcasm in your post.

[KillStealBoss]

27 minutes ago, PaP_Mentoles said:

You pressed "G"? According to WeGreedy is fun and engaging.

It's not about subs this time.

[Bland_42]

To sum up... if before the rework you were doing Ops to farm, now you do them knowing that you need to carry (better do not hope about team performance).

 

Still, on average more chances to win than in Random... for the average player anyway.

[tocqueville8]

I don't get the appeal of Operations now.

Before the rework, sure, they were boring to play, but at least they were more or less "safe" wins, as long as one played competently. A better way to knock out snowflakes than mindlessly spamming Coop, and a nice way of grinding tech-tree ships (esp. stock ones) that one wasn't confident enough to take to Randoms.

 

But now? They can be 15-20 minutes of effort for 500 xp, if you get a bad team and the bots focus you. I'm playing them even less than before, frankly.

[Nov_A]

2 minutes ago, tocqueville8 said:

I don't get the appeal of Operations now.

Before the rework, sure, they were boring to play, but at least they were more or less "safe" wins, as long as one played competently. A better way to knock out snowflakes than mindlessly spamming Coop, and a nice way of grinding tech-tree ships (esp. stock ones) that one wasn't confident enough to take to Randoms.

 

But now? They can be 15-20 minutes of effort for 500 xp, if you get a bad team and the bots focus you. I'm playing them even less than before, frankly.

I played around 10 OPs per week before, now I dont play them anymore.

 

All my T6-T7 ships were grinded in OPs, mostly Aegis and Narai. Now I just spam some XP-boosted Enterprise games and use Free-XP.

[lup3s]

5 minutes ago, tocqueville8 said:

I don't get the appeal of Operations now.

Before the rework, sure, they were boring to play, but at least they were more or less "safe" wins, as long as one played competently. A better way to knock out snowflakes than mindlessly spamming Coop, and a nice way of grinding tech-tree ships (esp. stock ones) that one wasn't confident enough to take to Randoms.

 

But now? They can be 15-20 minutes of effort for 500 xp, if you get a bad team and the bots focus you. I'm playing them even less than before, frankly.

 

Funny, I'm only playing Operations nowadays. I like that they're not the easy wins they used to be, and that it can be a challenge (though, sadly, too often).

 

Player skill really shines through in the new Operations - as there are no potatoes on the "enemy team" to match yours.

If you get a team with all players between 39% and 43% ... not much to do but laugh at their sheer incompetence and stupidity. (though at one point it may become a bit depressing)

 

And yes, this happened couple of days ago - 3 of them died during the initial assault in Killer Whale, the other 3 just sailed circles in the harbour afterwards.

[hgbn_dk]

I don't get the fuzz about this to be honest. My win rate is about 70-80% in ops. Of course you have some days where you lose 5 in a row because RNG just says no to every shot you make.

[KillStealBoss]

Tbh it's not WG's fault that the playerbase is like that. You can't fix stupid people that don't care, they just play to pew pew some ships. 

[Captain_82]

4 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Are you using Google Translate, @Captain_82? Because it's almost like there is a hint of sarcasm in your post.

 

No I don`t.

 

It`s Aegis-week, is it not (see Screenshots below)?!

 

@Seraphice

 

How come I play like 8 Random-Operations and 7 of them are Aegis now?

Have a look at the timestamps.

 

Four Random-Ops this evening, three Aegis-matches.

Not to mention all the previous (recent) Aegis-matches ...

 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

3 minutes ago, Captain_82 said:

 

No I don`t.

 

It`s Aegis-week, is it not (see Screenshots below)?!

 

@Seraphice

 

How come I play like 8 Random-Operations and 7 of them are Aegis now?

Have a look at the timestamps.

 

Three Random-Ops this evening, three Aegis-matches.

Not to mention all the previous (recent) Aegis-matches ...

 

 

Just had a very weird experience with Aegis. I don't usually do either super well or super badly in Aegis, but tonight was the pits for me. I didn't get to watch to the end but... well I was out in couple of minutes. The first enemy ships for some reason did not get sunk and they started turning around the rock westward, into the direction of our team spawn, while at the same time the NW cruisers were already approaching fast.

[Captain_82]

4 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Just had a very weird experience with Aegis. I don't usually do either super well or super badly in Aegis, but tonight was the pits for me. I didn't get to watch to the end but... well I was out in couple of minutes. The first enemy ships for some reason did not get sunk and they started turning around the rock westward, into the direction of our team spawn, while at the same time the NW cruisers were already approaching fast.

 

Do you have the replay?

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 hour ago, Captain_82 said:

 

Do you have the replay?

 

I do, but remind me how to I post it here. Does this way work?

20221206_223753_PJSD208-Kagero_37_Ridge.wowsreplay

[DDG_121]

Problem is they focus the nearest and lowest health CL / CA and beat it to death.

 

That should change a little bit IMO.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

13 hours ago, KillStealBoss said:

Tbh it's not WG's fault that the playerbase is like that. You can't fix stupid people that don't care, they just play to pew pew some ships. 

WG created a game where people stopped caring. Yup.

[lup3s]

18 minutes ago, Europizza said:

WG created a game where people stopped caring. Yup.

 

These types of "players" are everywhere though, not exclusive to WG games

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

55 minutes ago, lup3s said:

 

These types of "players" are everywhere though, not exclusive to WG games

Ofcoarse. Everwhere @ games that are designed for consumers hoarding and gambling. And most AAA MP games are these days.

 

When I was looking for a new MP game to replace this one, one of my criteria was: it should not be listed on Amazon's Prime Gaming Free Ingame Content pages, because that means lootcrate infestation, a full blown ingame marketing circus and other hoarders 'collector' crap. Good luck finding a MP game that's not centred it's business model around free 2 p(l)ay hoarding nonsense.

[lup3s]

40 minutes ago, Europizza said:

Ofcoarse. Everwhere @ games that are designed for consumers hoarding and gambling. And most AAA MP games are these days.

 

When I was looking for a new MP game to replace this one, one of my criteria was: it should not be listed on Amazon's Prime Gaming Free Ingame Content pages, because that means lootcrate infestation, a full blown ingame marketing circus and other hoarders 'collector' crap. Good luck finding a MP game that's not centred it's business model around free 2 p(l)ay hoarding nonsense.

 

They are in every game. 

 

Even games like Valheim have loads of griefers; and that's far from a "AAA MP game designed for [consumers] hoarding and gambling".

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

2 hours ago, lup3s said:

 

They are in every game. 

 

Even games like Valheim have loads of griefers; and that's far from a "AAA MP game designed for [consumers] hoarding and gambling".

I'm not talking about griefers. Didn't realise we were moving goalposts. We were talking about people that simply don't care.

 

I'm referring to 'players' that are actually just hoarders, shoppers and gamblers, which can't be bothered to put much effort into the arena pvp part of a game. They don't care about wits, strategy or kills, but credits, tokens and 'stuff'. It's a hoarding syndrome that was born when rpg hoarding and gambling merged into pvp titles as a revenue model. WOWS is a massively challanged game in that regard, and it's due to it's design around a mobile game revenue model. Every game gets the audience it deserves.

[lup3s]

1 hour ago, Europizza said:

I'm not talking about griefers. Didn't realise we were moving goalposts. We were talking about people that simply don't care.

 

I'm referring to 'players' that are actually just hoarders, shoppers and gamblers, which can't be bothered to put much effort into the arena pvp part of a game. They don't care about wits, strategy or kills, but credits, tokens and 'stuff'. It's a hoarding syndrome that was born when rpg hoarding and gambling merged into pvp titles as a revenue model. WOWS is a massively challanged game in that regard, and it's due to it's design around a mobile game revenue model. Every game gets the audience it deserves.

 

Imo this is the same as someone coming to your server, destroying everything, and taking all the materials / loot.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

4 hours ago, lup3s said:

 

Imo this is the same as someone coming to your server, destroying everything, and taking all the materials / loot.

Thats pretty weird, because it is not the same at all. Playing to grind tokens to purchase loot and lootboxes is nothing like raiding servers for other players loot. That's actually core pvp, no matter what you morally make of it. The token grinds dont need pvp, it is shoehorned into shooter pvp games as a revenue model.

 

We are drifting off. Lets not continue reaching.

[Captain_82]

Entire team was dead in under 9 minutes (last one beside me died around 11:23).

Match duration: 9:39 minutes. Pointless.