Schröder Reviews

[Ocsimano18]

Reviews for the upcoming dockyard ship:

Maltese Knight:

 

Potato Quality:

 

OverLordBou:

 

 

Teamkrado (German):

 

TLDR:

• Better than expected dockyard ship
• Can be fun when top tier, suffers when up-tiered
• Suffering on open maps
• Excellent (minimum) concealment, nearly identical to (maximum) secondary range
• Secondary modules are a must (sail Aegir/Carnot/Siegfried if you don't want a secondary build)
• Secondaries are usable
• Speed boost (15%) is fun
• German Hydro
• No torps
• No anti-sub planes, only has depth charges
• High arc, slow shell speed, akin to Alaska, not bad for damage
• Same armor as Aegir/Siegfried
• Battlecruiser 60 sec burn time
• Pen is ok at closer range
• German HE (good pen, low damage, moderate fire chance)
• Agir has better guns (better pen)
• Prinz Rupprecht is much better (torps, better secondaries, better armor, but in a BB slot)
• Napoli is better, but T10, and has no hydro or speed boost
• Not a must have/meta ship
• Blue version of the perma camo has the coolest look
• 5000 doubloons minimum starter package (4 levels)

 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Looked up the man behind the ship. Apparently this is Admiral Ludwig von Schröder, nicknamed the 'Lion of Flanders' which is where he was in command of infantry also taking part in the attack on the Dover Barrage.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Schröder

 

Not to be confused with Admiral Schroeder who revised the USN Naval Regulations.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seaton_Schroeder

[Ubertron_X]

While I generally do appreciate the addition of non-instantly-exploding heavy cruisers to the game I am not very fond of Germany receiving their third sturdy T9 cruiser already, whereas nations like France (T8) or Italy (T8 & T9) are still waiting for their first. For example I can easily imagine an Algerie or Charles Martel type CA doing well within the BP event as well as in-game later.

[_Vikingr_]

I don't know. Admiral has the same guns characteristics as Aegir do. 

Spoiler

 

And less DPM. Also you have just 4 guns forward next to 6 Aegir. 

To my point,  Aegir is far away from the Chariot of the Gods. And now they propose us to buy (let's be honest) a ship that has worse guns than Aegir do. 

But what is the compensation? Yeah, better concealment and speed if boosted. And chance to make fireworks when enough range for secondaries.

 

Aegir has torps, more DPM and more HP.

So what Admiral can do? Endeavor better?

 

[________________Morrison]

1 minute ago, _Vikingr_ said:

I don't know. Admiral has the same guns characteristics as Aegir do. 

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And less DPM. Also you have just 4 guns forward next to 6 Aegir. 

To my point,  Aegir is far away from the Chariot of the Gods. And now they propose us to buy (let's be honest) a ship that has worse guns than Aegir do. 

But what is the compensation? Yeah, better concealment and speed if boosted. And chance to make fireworks when enough range for secondaries.

 

Aegir has torps, more DPM and more HP.

So what Admiral can do? Endeavor better?

Be the better siegfried ;)

[_Vikingr_]

Siegfried: Let me introduce myself

Range 20.64 km

Spoiler

Admiral

Range 18.36 km

Spoiler

 

Admiral can cosplay Sieggy only in the dreams

[lafeel]

2 hours ago, Ocsimano18 said:

• Blue version of the perma camo has the coolest look

To be fair this is the case with most of the German perma camos..

[Karasu_Browarszky]

2 minutes ago, lafeel said:

To be fair this is the case with most of the German perma camos..

 

I remain most partial to the Baltic stripe camo. There's something ets special about it.

[lafeel]

11 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

I remain most partial to the Baltic stripe camo. There's something ets special about it.

Oh I agree, but that's not one of the regular perma camos which is clearly what was being talked about there.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 minute ago, lafeel said:

Oh I agree, but that's not one of the regular perma camos which is clearly what was being talked about there.

 

Me I just go naked. Let's dub it 'Commando camo'.

[fumtu]

26 minutes ago, _Vikingr_ said:

Admiral has the same guns characteristics as Aegir do. 

 

Not really, Schroder guns have much worse performance, especially its AP

 

[Hugh_Ruka]

I watched Maltese's review yesterday, he was still reviewing the ship with 80mm turtleback slope and not the 28mm announced in the devblog ...

 

Was the armor change retracted or the CCs were not notified ?

[_Vikingr_]

9 minutes ago, fumtu said:

Schroder guns have much worse performance, especially its AP

Yes, thank you. I didn't dive into ballistics and pen. 

Accuracy is a key feature for me. I can handle crappy ballistics and pen, but I cannot agree to have a ship that cannot hit the target because of the accuracy

[fumtu]

1 minute ago, _Vikingr_ said:

Accuracy is a key feature for me. I can handle crappy ballistics and pen, but I cannot agree to have a ship that cannot hit the target because of the accuracy

 

On the other hand, it also sucks if you can hit things only to get shatters as you can't pen anything. Funnily, Shroeder AP shells, have same pen and travel time as T3 Konig Albert BB 

 

[_Vikingr_]

18 minutes ago, fumtu said:

if you can hit things only to get shatters as you can't pen anything

At least you can burn it when hit even without pen if proper shells. (with less probability than Aegir, yeah..) But all other is a true statement

[22cm]

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6 hours ago, Ocsimano18 said:

Reviews for the upcoming dockyard ship:

 

• Can be fun when top tier, suffers when up-tiered
• No anti-sub planes, only has depth charges
• Pen is ok at closer range
• Not a must have/meta ship

 

• Superships say hi. 
• Subs say hi. 
• 20 km meta says hi. 
• True. 

[koliber_1984]

Shroder became even more garbage after latest nerfs, I will only go for Renown'44 💪

[SurfaceFish]

Not worth the 5K doubloons. Can spent the same on 2 Battle Pass events to get more coal and steel.

 

 

[Aragathor]

6 minutes ago, SurfaceFish said:

Not worth the 5K doubloons. Can spent the same on 2 Battle Pass events to get more coal and steel.

 

 

And that's what bugs me. I can get more oomph from 2 full BPs than from buying the Schröder.

And the ship looks so lackluster it's not even funny.

[SobanRe]

Looks interesting, for a tier 5 BB/BC, maybe tier 6, but not for a tier 9 CA.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Not planning to do any more dockyard events. What will I be missing out on when it comes to this particular ship?

[Aragathor]

51 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Not planning to do any more dockyard events. What will I be missing out on when it comes to this particular ship?

That's my question too. I want to like it, but I already have Aegir. And Aegir has an extra gun, torpedoes, and a nice nordic camo I've bought.

There are no secondary skills for cruisers, so a secondary cruiser is a pointless meme.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

17 minutes ago, Aragathor said:

That's my question too. I want to like it, but I already have Aegir. And Aegir has an extra gun, torpedoes, and a nice nordic camo I've bought.

There are no secondary skills for cruisers, so a secondary cruiser is a pointless meme.

 

Thanks to the captain skill rework. I find it 'funny' how something that supposedly gave us more options to tailor our captain builds, pretty much achieved the exact opposite. At least as far as I'm concerned.

[endlessBoogie]

Vor 1 Stunde, Karasu_Hidesuke sagte:

Thanks to the captain skill rework. I find it 'funny' how something that supposedly gave us more options to tailor our captain builds, pretty much achieved the exact opposite. At least as far as I'm concerned.

[LukkaiCH]

I somehow first read the thread title as "Schrödinger reviews".