[OLEUM] Provid_AA_Fire_SUPP Players 10 posts 22,272 battles Report post #1 Posted December 5, 2022 MM with superships must be 1 tier maximum, and only 1 Supership per division. I see way to many CC community managers on stream saying its like playing tier 7 vs 9, sure that MM is not good for sure, but tier 9 vs supership is 10 times worse. if not even more. Change MM and change it fast 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #2 Posted December 6, 2022 It's not only about superships being powerful, but they are played by the most campy people now. Those who were heavy camping with T10's now play T11 for more passive play to get more damage. It's so boring and helpless meta for T9s that don't have the range, overall the gameplay is mega boring. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OLEUM] Provid_AA_Fire_SUPP Players 10 posts 22,272 battles Report post #3 Posted December 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, KillStealBoss said: It's not only about superships being powerful, but they are played by the most campy people now. Those who were heavy camping with T10's now play T11 for more passive play to get more damage. And so boring and helpless meta for T9s that don't have the range, overall the gameplay is mega boring. Yea i totally agree 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #4 Posted December 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Provid_AA_Fire_SUPP said: Yea i totally agree Add to this T10 subs 2 per team... More and more of my friends leaving because of that, some stayed but are playing substantially less. And others turned to play CVs. Hence why there's a CV every second battle, something that was in the early months after CV rework.... A year ago there was a CV every 3rd or 4th battle. And you can see it by how many plays every week you're taking down, too many. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OLEUM] Provid_AA_Fire_SUPP Players 10 posts 22,272 battles Report post #5 Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, KillStealBoss said: Add to this T10 subs 2 per team... More and more of my friends leaving because of that, some stayed but are playing substantially less. And others turned to play CVs. Hence why there's a CV every second battle, something that was in the early months after CV rework.... A year ago there was a CV every 3rd or 4th battle. And you can see it by how many plays every week you're taking down, too many. its getting weird, subs IMHO doesnt fit this game at all, 2 tier MM has never been good. The lame excuse that people dont wanna wait in que, they should try tarkov for 5 minutes que time. i have loads of friends that just left when subs got introduce. Sad on a very good game or atleast it was. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #6 Posted December 6, 2022 6 hours ago, Provid_AA_Fire_SUPP said: but tier 9 vs supership is 10 times worse. if not even more. I'd say it's about on par. But I'm happy that I can at least play tier 7 now without wanting to pull my hair out. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BATES] Mamba_ZA Players 67 posts 15,234 battles Report post #7 Posted December 6, 2022 It was far better when you had to earn tokens to play a supership. And I have no idea why they felt it was necessary to give super ships gimmicks. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EST] Profilus [EST] Players 1,859 posts 35,597 battles Report post #8 Posted December 6, 2022 6 hours ago, Provid_AA_Fire_SUPP said: they should try tarkov for 5 minutes que time Triple that when update hits and ppl are still ready to wait for that sweet pain thats coming. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,893 battles Report post #9 Posted December 6, 2022 5 hours ago, SV_Kompresor said: I'd say it's about on par. But I'm happy that I can at least play tier 7 now without wanting to pull my hair out. Major difference is the F-you button imo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OLEUM] Provid_AA_Fire_SUPP Players 10 posts 22,272 battles Report post #10 Posted December 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Profilus said: Triple that when update hits and ppl are still ready to wait for that sweet pain thats coming. lol true :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OLEUM] Provid_AA_Fire_SUPP Players 10 posts 22,272 battles Report post #11 Posted December 6, 2022 6 hours ago, SV_Kompresor said: I'd say it's about on par. But I'm happy that I can at least play tier 7 now without wanting to pull my hair out. for some ships it might be on par, for most i would say thats not even close. you can find some ships that are fun and competitive at tier 7 to play even field with tier 9, but can you really find any tier 9 ant that level versus superhsips? i dont think so. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #12 Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Provid_AA_Fire_SUPP said: for some ships it might be on par, for most i would say thats not even close. you can find some ships that are fun and competitive at tier 7 to play even field with tier 9, but can you really find any tier 9 ant that level versus superhsips? i dont think so. I've yet to find a tier 7 that I could comfortably play against tier 9. Especially when I remember that tier 9 is the tier with probably the biggest amount of OP or near tier 9.5 ships in the game and that tier 7 was bottom tier almost 2/3 of the time. Tier 9 might not have fun against tier 11, but at least it's not top tier two thirds of the time anymore. It deserved getting kicked in the nuts imo. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,893 battles Report post #13 Posted December 6, 2022 3 hours ago, SV_Kompresor said: It deserved getting kicked in the nuts imo. lmao so because T7s had to "suffer" T9s (not my experience anyway), T9s have to "suffer more", with Supershits ? yes, T9s are stronger than T7s, but imo the difference between T9s and Supershits is bigger (most are a straight-up buff with retard proof armour and that dumb F-you button) I already disliked the boring TX camper meta ... addition of these Supershits basically killed (high tier) Random Battles for me; can't wait for WG to add T9 to Operations. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #14 Posted December 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, lup3s said: can't wait for WG to add T9 to Operations. Be careful what you wish for. That Izumo at the end of Newport is gonna get upscaled to a Satsuma. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #15 Posted December 6, 2022 On the bright side T7 is not hell anymore, you can actually find some T7/T8 ships to play there now. T9s are too busy enjoying eagle, united states, double annapolis + smoke slave divisions and getting oneshot by one random satsuma shell in the butt from 29km. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] BlackYeti Players 995 posts 14,827 battles Report post #16 Posted December 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said: Be careful what you wish for. That Izumo at the end of Newport is gonna get upscaled to a Satsuma. It's already a Yamato/Musashi, Satsuma won't change much, doesn't add anything to the overmatch threshold. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BREW] Bland_42 Players 751 posts 10,882 battles Report post #17 Posted December 6, 2022 13 minuti fa, BlackYeti ha scritto: It's already a Yamato/Musashi, Satsuma won't change much, doesn't add anything to the overmatch threshold. And I would prefer to meet a Bismarck instead of the Gneisenau... nose-in they have the same guns, but my cruiser/DD can go along side without take a torps volley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CRU_] zengaze Players 534 posts Report post #18 Posted December 6, 2022 18 hours ago, Provid_AA_Fire_SUPP said: MM with superships must be 1 tier maximum, and only 1 Supership per division. I see way to many CC community managers on stream saying its like playing tier 7 vs 9, sure that MM is not good for sure, but tier 9 vs supership is 10 times worse. if not even more. Change MM and change it fast You actually think what the community managers say is anything to do with reality? You don't understand they are a branch of the marketing department, they say whatever dung has to be said and its usually lies. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OLEUM] Provid_AA_Fire_SUPP Players 10 posts 22,272 battles Report post #19 Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, zengaze said: You actually think what the community managers say is anything to do with reality? You don't understand they are a branch of the marketing department, they say whatever dung has to be said and its usually lies. no i agree totally, sadly some seems to believe it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #20 Posted December 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Provid_AA_Fire_SUPP said: no i agree totally, sadly some seems to believe it superships are literally t11 and therefore the +/-2 MM is perfectly normal and expected 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #21 Posted December 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, AtaIante said: superships are literally t11 And along came the fffffffun button. Nah man, that's bull and you know it. You won't notice it as hard as you trash supershites and tier 8 alike in your CV, but concerning the power level, t11 is much worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #22 Posted December 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said: And along came the fffffffun button. Nah man, that's bull and you know it. You won't notice it as hard as you trash supershites and tier 8 alike in your CV, but concerning the power level, t11 is much worse. Im talking about in a game sense not in a balance sense. WG intends them to be that so they are that. How much stronger they are in this doesn't matter to them as they force it to be as if t11. Thats what it is and what everyone who presses the battle button with t9 has to accept now. There is no way around it besides returning to port, quitting the game and so on. Simple. Its not about what I think and you think should be, would be better and so on. The same story with subs and CVs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TALOS] Hogger4169 Players 316 posts 8,317 battles Report post #23 Posted December 6, 2022 Superships must be on teir own game mode with less brutal expenses cost in a 8 x 8 format or in randoms with only to 10 and superships. They could make a rank category called Platinum in a 4 x 4 mode with better rewards... They could.... The question is : Do they want to???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] BlackYeti Players 995 posts 14,827 battles Report post #24 Posted December 6, 2022 48 minutes ago, Bland_42 said: And I would prefer to meet a Bismarck instead of the Gneisenau... nose-in they have the same guns, but my cruiser/DD can go along side without take a torps volley. WG: very well, have a Tirpitz then! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,893 battles Report post #25 Posted December 6, 2022 30 minutes ago, AtaIante said: Im talking about in a game sense not in a balance sense. WG intends them to be that so they are that. How much stronger they are in this doesn't matter to them as they force it to be as if t11. Thats what it is and what everyone who presses the battle button with t9 has to accept now. There is no way around it besides returning to port, quitting the game and so on. Simple. Its not about what I think and you think should be, would be better and so on. The same story with subs and CVs. WG can limit CVs to one (max two) per team, why not so with Supershits ? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites