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[Poll] How would you rebalance CVs Post Nerfs?

Do you believe CVs will need a buff after the recently announced nerfs?  

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  1. 1. Do you believe CVs will need a buff after the recently announced nerfs?

  2. 2. If CVs have to be buffed, how would you buff them?

    • Buff plane speed
    • Buff plane health
    • increase aerial torpedo damage
    • Increase plane rocket damage
    • Increase bomb damage
    • Make bombing more intuitive
    • Reduce the damage from flak
    • Weaken fighter planes.
    • Provide a damage reduction to AA from ships above the CV's tier
    • Improve CV survivability
    • Provide rocket assistance as standard to all carrier planes
  3. 3. Would any of these suggestions be worth exploring?

    • Add heat seeking capacity to rockets
    • Give CVs their historic speed
    • Remove reserves entirely - no more managing reserves
    • Give CVs a droppable sonar buoy to assist team mates hunting subs
    • Let CV planes passively spot subs
    • Give CVs a second auto launching strike that can hit surface ships - deters ambushing by DDs
    • None of the above.

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  • Poll closed on 12/17/2022 at 11:23 PM

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Hi All, 

 

If you are unaware, WG are planning to nerf CVs in two ways: 

 

  • Remove plane spotting
  • Massively reduce strike power by changing how it interacts with aa and making recalling slower. 

 

As these together represent the largest shift in gameplay in WoWs, history, I have attached a poll to see how you would restore CVs to balance. I note that I do not think CVs are overpowered (and think they need a small buff in their current state), but I don't think it's unreasonable to think that these nerfs would be excessive.

 

I would like to note that due to CVs role, as a strategic class in a tactical game as one forumite put it, I do think CVs will have to be more impactful than other classes to see play, and I don't see their current state as unreasonable. I do know that a lot of people don't like CVs but I seriously don't think that it is healthy for a class to be nerfed into oblivion. I would like to know what other people think. 

 

Also,

 

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Just now, Wulf_Ace said:

they are not planning to remove plane spotting.

I'm pretty sure they are planning to do something to it... 

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field 2 requires an answer. I don't think any of them are needed.

 

field 3:

 

Add heatseeking - lets make this game even more skill less?

Remove reserves - lets remove hitpoints from other ships. oh wait...

Auto launch strike for anti DD capability - poor CV when they for once get ambushed by a DD, normally hiding behind the entire team. Can I have this on my BBs also?

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2 hours ago, black_falcon120 said:

I'm pretty sure they are planning to do something to it... 

The no plane spotting test is ~2 years old already i'd say and hasn't made it past close testing.

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Since you cannot choose none in part 2, this poll is kind of worthless.

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The nerfs are to make CVs more balanced as they're currently immensely overpowered. Your whole narrative is flawed.

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Let's make a better poll

Poll
Question 1:

Is the OP's poll worthless?
Cool: Yes.
Funny: Absolutely. 

Question 2:
How could OP's poll improve?
1 - If he deleted it
2 - If he wasn't presenting a biased poll
3 - If he understood his mistake and went back in time to stop himself from doing it
4 - If the additional options weren't nuts
5 - If there were equally negative options to balance the positive ones
6 - If we actually nerfed CVs instead of acting out of the assumption that they will get nerfed. 

I hope this example helps you make better polls in the future. 

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Vor 7 Stunden, black_falcon120 sagte:

I note that I do not think CVs are overpowered (and think they need a small buff in their current state)

so about which game is this poll, because for sure not about World of Warships?

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Vor 8 Stunden, black_falcon120 sagte:

I do think CVs will have to be more impactful than other classes to see play, and I don't see their current state as unreasonable.

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8 hours ago, black_falcon120 said:

Massively reduce strike power by changing how it interacts with aa and making recalling slower. 

It will make CVs even more unplayable. They have been nerfing CVs since the rework.

They should do this:

8 hours ago, black_falcon120 said:

Remove plane spotting

instead.

 

Those who say that CVs are overpowered don't play (and have never played) CVs themselves. That is some sort of cognitive bias, I think.

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Vor 9 Minuten, Mr_Damager sagte:

Those who say that CVs are overpowered don't play (and have never played) CVs themselves. That is some sort of cognitive bias, I think.

you are wrong. :cap_tea:

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This field is required
I love have you have to select a buffet of CV buffs to participate in the poll. Selecting CVs don't need a buff is not allowed
Your poll is like voting in north korea : Is kim jong un your eternal beloved and respected dear leader YES or YES
You can't submit your vote in the poll unless you select CVs need buffs and specify which ones :fish_cute_2:

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23 minutes ago, COPlUM said:

This field is required
I love have you have to select a buffet of CV buffs to participate in the poll. Selecting CVs don't need a buff is not allowed
Your poll is like voting in north korea : Is kim jong un your eternal beloved and respected dear leader YES or YES
You can't submit your vote in the poll unless you select CVs need buffs and specify which ones :fish_cute_2:

I did say “if CVs have to be buffed, how would you do it”, so I don’t see the problem tbh

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19 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said:

I did say “if CVs have to be buffed, how would you do it”, so I don’t see the problem tbh


The problem is with the basic nature of how polls work on the forum. 
 

So for the second question you listed a variety of buffs for people who voted yes to CVS being buffed, but you forgot to provide a box to tick for those who voted no to buffs in question one.
 

Also I would suggest it’s often wise to provide an “other please explain below” option, just it’s useful in polling as people can be quite varied. 

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Only buff CVs should get would be the capability to drop (non-spotting) fighter plane squadrons any where via a right-click on the mini-map.

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2 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said:


The problem is with the basic nature of how polls work on the forum. 
 

So for the second question you listed a variety of buffs for people who voted yes to CVS being buffed, but you forgot to provide a box to tick for those who voted no to buffs in question one.
 

Also I would suggest it’s often wise to provide an “other please explain below” option, just it’s useful in polling as people can be quite varied. 

I see, I did consider the option of a ‘don’t know’ button, but I was concerned everyone would choose it, as picking an option is hard, and I wanted to see what people thought. 
 

Is there an option to add a ‘other’ reply on these forum polls?

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8 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said:

I did consider the option of a ‘don’t know’ button, but I was concerned everyone would choose it

I considered letting people vote for someone else but I was concerned people would actually do it
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Hmmmm i wonder why the op thinks his handicapped/handholding class that shits on everything else needs buffed?

CVs are the equivalent of  having a class in an fps shooter that has aimbot/wall hack and cloak abilities and can use them all the together at the same time and they have no cooldown, that's how retarded their implementation is.

The two wheelchair/handholding classes are why this game has and will be run into the ground, it's a dead end and an absolute waste of everyones time.

WG need to do one of two things, remove CVs/Subs or just shut down the servers and move onto their next fail.

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1 hour ago, Mr_Damager said:

Those who say that CVs are overpowered don't play (and have never played) CVs themselves. That is some sort of cognitive bias, I think.

So you don’t believe that El2azer plays CV’s or has ever played CV’s.

 

interesting view that, as one of the few people, that actually worry me when see on the other team in a CV.

 

 

 

 

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47 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said:

Is there an option to add a ‘other’ reply on these forum polls?

"Other (write in the thread)"

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