evil_communist_from_ussr Players 111 posts 39,703 battles Report post #1 Posted December 1, 2022 I suggest that the developer from lesta-games, and wargaming, as their general contractor, consider introducing a temporary moratorium on the production of premium ships, both for donations and for resources. I explain my position. I have been buying premiums in this game since 2015, the first was the battleship Nikolai 1, then warspite came out, tirpitz ... and so on. Each of these boats was excellent and a real pleasure to play on them. then, over time, some strange substances like Poltava, Boise, began to appear, the situation with premium content became like walking through a minefield, playing roulette - “how disgusting will the new premium be?”. the last straw was the release of Maya, anhalt and tokachi. Sorry, but this is very, very bad. You are letting the people who invest in your game. I have a 100% chance of hitting your anhalt on any other tier 8 premium battleship. Maya is much worse than myoko. I know what I'm writing. Tokachi is not bad in itself, but in the current meta of the game - a complete lack of fights in the top of the list, it's sad to get a one-shot anywhere from a tier 8 or 9 battleship. Was it weak to make this boat without a citadel, like a destroyer, thereby increasing its survivability in order to play in the current meta? Next, we move on to ships for resources. Here the situation is better, but also needs to be revised. Either toxic imbs are produced - aircraft carriers and destroyers, or complete rubbish. from the game on "Sevastopol" is still nausea! Or copy-pastes that do not give anything new in terms of gameplay - Mecklenburg is a pathetic parody of bourgogne, shikishima is a pathetic shadow of yamato, Why spend 30 thousand steel on them? I suggest that wargaming develop a new concept for premium content and, after its public hearings and agreement with the game community, release new ships. Sorry, but your "tokachi" have already got it! The release of premium boats should be a holiday for a donator, but now it's the other way around! 2 4 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #2 Posted December 1, 2022 It's always a holiday for wg somewhere. ;) Maya, Poltava, Anhalt & Cheshire. Aren't bad perse But there are definitively better options. But don't fret you'll either get OP trash that gets nerfed later on. Or just straight up trash from the compactor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evil_communist_from_ussr Players 111 posts 39,703 battles Report post #3 Posted December 1, 2022 ok, you are releasing tirpitz in 2015! I still ride it! bend everything that swims around and the pleasure lasts 7 years! you release tokachi and Maya ,,,... a month ago! I ride them 15 fights and will never do it again! is this how it should be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #4 Posted December 1, 2022 The Accounting Department objects in the strongest possible terms. Thank you for your understanding. 2 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #5 Posted December 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, Milfious said: It's always a holiday for wg somewhere. ;) Maya, Poltava, Anhalt & Cheshire. Aren't bad perse But there are definitively better options. But don't fret you'll either get OP trash that gets nerfed later on. Or just straight up trash from the compactor Per se is two words. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] MrWastee Players 4,255 posts 33,584 battles Report post #6 Posted December 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, chef_vvp said: ok, you are releasing tirpitz in 2015! I still ride it! bend everything that swims around and the pleasure lasts 7 years! you release tokachi and Maya ,,,... a month ago! I ride them 15 fights and will never do it again! is this how it should be? kinda funny on how u prove urself on how subjective ur impression is ^^.... as 4 me, imo maya along with lazo is probably the most potent t7 kiting cruiser. yet only 6 matches 4 me, given that, but until now it's a powerhouse. in other words: no surprise that with growing diversity theres ships INDIVIDUAL players will like more or less or perform better/worse than others do. nothing to see here... 2cts 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] Port_Authority Players 320 posts 22,661 battles Report post #7 Posted December 1, 2022 "Moratorium"? Any company that uses such a word in official communique puts itself in a bad position to begin with. So good luck with that. As for the influx of premiums vs taking care of the balancing, it is the financing model of the game currently. WG knows there's a part of the playerbase that wants to spend monthly amounts into the game and not just "maybe open wallet" if WG gives them a bargain. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #8 Posted December 1, 2022 Quote Introduce a moratorium on the release of new premium ships You are quite free to do that yourself. No one has to buy a new premium ship when it comes out. Or, at least, wait a while for reviews on it and see if it fits with your play-style. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #9 Posted December 1, 2022 31 minutes ago, chef_vvp said: ok, you are releasing tirpitz in 2015! I still ride it! bend everything that swims around and the pleasure lasts 7 years! you release tokachi and Maya ,,,... a month ago! I ride them 15 fights and will never do it again! is this how it should be? Wel, its the digital equivelant of the modern version of anything. We are capable of making things that can last for years. Yet we refuse to do so because we want to make money. So we intentionally make faulty things. Or in this games sense. Just produce trash straight up. Then replace it with new trash 6 months later. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #10 Posted December 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Milfious said: Wel, its the digital equivelant of the modern version of anything. We are capable of making things that can last for years. Yet we refuse to do so because we want to make money. So we intentionally make faulty things. Or in this games sense. Just produce trash straight up. Then replace it with new trash 6 months later. Recycling? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DK-MK] Varian_Dorn Players 804 posts 19,917 battles Report post #11 Posted December 1, 2022 49 minutes ago, chef_vvp said: I suggest that the developer from lesta-games, and wargaming, as their general contractor, consider introducing a temporary moratorium on the production of premium ships, both for donations and for resources. I explain my position. I have been buying premiums in this game since 2015, the first was the battleship Nikolai 1, then warspite came out, tirpitz ... and so on. Each of these boats was excellent and a real pleasure to play on them. then, over time, some strange substances like Poltava, Boise, began to appear, the situation with premium content became like walking through a minefield, playing roulette - “how disgusting will the new premium be?”. the last straw was the release of Maya, anhalt and tokachi. Sorry, but this is very, very bad. You are letting the people who invest in your game. I have a 100% chance of hitting your anhalt on any other tier 8 premium battleship. Maya is much worse than myoko. I know what I'm writing. Tokachi is not bad in itself, but in the current meta of the game - a complete lack of fights in the top of the list, it's sad to get a one-shot anywhere from a tier 8 or 9 battleship. Was it weak to make this boat without a citadel, like a destroyer, thereby increasing its survivability in order to play in the current meta? Next, we move on to ships for resources. Here the situation is better, but also needs to be revised. Either toxic imbs are produced - aircraft carriers and destroyers, or complete rubbish. from the game on "Sevastopol" is still nausea! Or copy-pastes that do not give anything new in terms of gameplay - Mecklenburg is a pathetic parody of bourgogne, shikishima is a pathetic shadow of yamato, Why spend 30 thousand steel on them? I suggest that wargaming develop a new concept for premium content and, after its public hearings and agreement with the game community, release new ships. Sorry, but your "tokachi" have already got it! The release of premium boats should be a holiday for a donator, but now it's the other way around! Do you have some compulsive premium ship buying disorder? Nobody forces you to buy anything. The only actual vote one has in regards to offered premium content is whether or not one thinks its worth the money. You like it, you buy it. Don´t like it or you´re not sure, don´t buy it. Did anyone force you to buy Maya? It was clear as day what this ship is from the first announcement. How about you inform yourself about a new release and then actually THINK about if you wanna buy it or not. This posting is the most ridiculous thing I´ve read in a while. And thats saying something, especially on this forum. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #12 Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Recycling? That'll be the copy / paste department. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evil_communist_from_ussr Players 111 posts 39,703 battles Report post #13 Posted December 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, Varian_Dorn said: Do you have some compulsive premium ship buying disorder? Nobody forces you to buy anything. The only actual vote one has in regards to offered premium content is whether or not one thinks its worth the money. You like it, you buy it. Don´t like it or you´re not sure, don´t buy it. Did anyone force you to buy Maya? It was clear as day what this ship is from the first announcement. How about you inform yourself about a new release and then actually THINK about if you wanna buy it or not. This posting is the most ridiculous thing I´ve read in a while. And thats saying something, especially on this forum. how smart you are! Where are you from? For example, my country has a Consumer Rights Act. According to which I can return any item to the store within 14 days, because it did not suit me. With a number of conditions, of course, such as the absence of visible traces of operation and the presence of commodity packaging. Restriction - medicines, food and so on. before buying a car, I can run it in, steer, completely climb around and sit inside, in a car dealership, checking driving performance and ergonomics. I don't see wargaming giving me the benefit of a test drive before buying or a return option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VIBES] tocqueville8 Players 3,717 posts 39,407 battles Report post #14 Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, chef_vvp said: shikishima is a pathetic shadow of yamato I'm not seeing it 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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evil_communist_from_ussr Players 111 posts 39,703 battles Report post #16 Posted December 1, 2022 28 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said: You are quite free to do that yourself. No one has to buy a new premium ship when it comes out. Or, at least, wait a while for reviews on it and see if it fits with your play-style. reviews from whom? from super jedi or jellyfish? funny.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #17 Posted December 1, 2022 31 minutes ago, chef_vvp said: reviews from whom? from super jedi or jellyfish? funny.... In the past, LittleWhiteMouse used to do excellent reviews of premium ships. But, in lieu of that you can still ask on the forum - there are plenty of experienced players here that can offer informed opinions on how good a ship is. Edit : LWM's back catalogue of reviews - https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/210980-mouses-catalog-of-ship-reviews/ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #18 Posted December 1, 2022 20 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Recycling? Don't need to recycle digital waste. Just make new digital waste. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #19 Posted December 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, Milfious said: Don't need to recycle digital waste. Just make new digital waste. Waste not want not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF57] Fatal_Ramses Players 1,300 posts Report post #20 Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Per se is two words. Not if you speak finnish 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #21 Posted December 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, Fatal_Ramses said: Not if you speak finnish Must make a note of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #22 Posted December 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Must make a note of that. Well as a dutch person this does not apply to me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #23 Posted December 1, 2022 2 hours ago, chef_vvp said: Either toxic imbs are produced - aircraft carriers and destroyers, or complete rubbish. I agree with the general sentiment that there are too many premiums coming out all the time and many of them are kinda useless but what's this about? What's your problem with destroyers lol. And nobody forces you to buy all premium ships?! Obviously if you buy all of them you won't be happy with some of them, that's just common sense. Do you walk into a bakery, buy and eat every cake they have without even checking what you're buying, then complain that you didn't like some of the cakes. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #24 Posted December 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, COPlUM said: I agree with the general sentiment that there are too many premiums coming out all the time and many of them are kinda useless but what's this about? What's your problem with destroyers lol. And nobody forces you to buy all premium ships?! Obviously if you buy all of them you won't be happy with some of them, that's just common sense. Do you walk into a bakery, buy and eat every cake they have without even checking what you're buying, then complain that you didn't like some of the cakes. Well one valid way of giving an oppinion is buying and trying I guess so. Could be aplicable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] MrWastee Players 4,255 posts 33,584 battles Report post #25 Posted December 1, 2022 2 hours ago, chef_vvp said: [...] I don't see wargaming giving me the benefit of a test drive before buying or a return option. i won't comment on the fallacy in comparing actual goods to digital ones, BUT u can take a testride by company policy. buy a prem, do a max of >1< battle in it and support >mooost likely< will refund on request >in dubloons only(!!!)<. they, by law, don't need to do this. nther 2cts 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites