[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #1 Posted November 30, 2022 More fun and engaging. 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EXIL] Wizard27_1979 WoWs Wiki Team, Supertester 2,558 posts 18,067 battles Report post #2 Posted November 30, 2022 Which 2? Ushakov is a BB… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #3 Posted November 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, 22cm said: More fun and engaging. I'm really wondering what you expect. Do you follow the devblogs and news at all? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Nov_A Beta Tester 1,292 posts 13,123 battles Report post #4 Posted November 30, 2022 Good heavens! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #5 Posted November 30, 2022 36 minutes ago, Wizard27_1979 said: Which 2? Ushakov is a BB… Yes, I got carried away. I m expecting the supersubs soon. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAEG] Praetorias Beta Tester 202 posts 16,107 battles Report post #6 Posted November 30, 2022 More bs superships. Remember guys, i will continue not to bother playing these matches, head to corner or ensure a standard non supership kills you by heading straight for them. Make sure supership players run at a loss and wg has completely ruined t9 and t10. NO REASON anymore to buy tier 9 premiums…. 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Seraphice WG Staff 1,664 posts 7,812 battles Report post #7 Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Praetorias said: More bs superships. Remember guys, i will continue not to bother playing these matches, head to corner or ensure a standard non supership kills you by heading straight for them. Make sure supership players run at a loss and wg has completely ruined t9 and t10. NO REASON anymore to buy tier 9 premiums…. May I remind you that intentionally griefing matches is against our EULA? 3 6 3 8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hypsar Players 287 posts Report post #8 Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, 22cm said: More fun and engaging. 27 minutes ago, Seraphice said: May I remind you that intentionally griefing matches is against our EULA? this is lesta listening to the client's feedback ... next will be a few subs and cv's 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAEG] Praetorias Beta Tester 202 posts 16,107 battles Report post #9 Posted November 30, 2022 43 minutes ago, Seraphice said: May I remind you that intentionally griefing matches is against our EULA? Do you seriously think people will try in equal measures to a normal match when you have stacked it against them so significantly it is not possible to have an impact…. Its not an even playing field anymore ! Delusional if you do…. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #10 Posted November 30, 2022 38 minutes ago, Praetorias said: Do you seriously think people will try in equal measures to a normal match when you have stacked it against them so significantly it is not possible to have an impact…. Its not an even playing field anymore ! Delusional if you do…. Just quit the game dude 6 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-N-W] LukkaiCH [S-N-W] Players 547 posts 13,817 battles Report post #11 Posted November 30, 2022 Vor 37 Minuten, Praetorias sagte: Do you seriously think people will try in equal measures to a normal match when you have stacked it against them so significantly it is not possible to have an impact…. Its not an even playing field anymore ! Delusional if you do…. Not that I personally like the tier XI ships, I think the idea is kind of stupid, but... How exactly does their presence mean you can't have an impact anymore? It's almost as if upon reaching tier IX and X, people suddenly forget how to play as bottom tier. Not saying they have to like it or anything. But saying that it is unplayable because tier IX now suffer from the same as tier VIII did before and tier X the same as tier IX did... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAEG] Praetorias Beta Tester 202 posts 16,107 battles Report post #12 Posted November 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, LukkaiCH said: Not that I personally like the tier XI ships, I think the idea is kind of stupid, but... How exactly does their presence mean you can't have an impact anymore? It's almost as if upon reaching tier IX and X, people suddenly forget how to play as bottom tier. Not saying they have to like it or anything. But saying that it is unplayable because tier IX now suffer from the same as tier VIII did before and tier X the same as tier IX did... Because bottom tier is one thing, being bottom tier in match where 5 players are in god mode broken supership is something completely different. wargamming brought them in for one reason, get people to burn their silver so they spend more with wg…. So they made them broken superpowerful for people to be able to dominate a game, regardless of skill whilst forgetting fact that wg are getting you to drain your account of silver for their own financial end. They don’t care if it breaks game…. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-N-W] LukkaiCH [S-N-W] Players 547 posts 13,817 battles Report post #13 Posted November 30, 2022 Vor 4 Minuten, Praetorias sagte: Because bottom tier is one thing, being bottom tier in match where 5 players are in god mode broken supership is something completely different. But are they? Eagle I can see, yes. Satsuma for example? Not so much. We could get into analysing every single ship over hundreds of battles here. But most of them honestly just feel like tier XI to me. Annoying, yes. But nowhere near godmode. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #14 Posted November 30, 2022 T11 DDs are essentially useless, most T11 BBs are too, including this ushakov thing "Noooo a Kremlin with 20K more HP, unplayable!" Satsuma is a bit dented in the sense that it's a yamato on crack, comically easy to dink cruisers for half their HP with one super accurate shell. The real T11 cringe is super CVs and double annapolis + gearing smoke slave divisions. But you can play T9 and avoid those, queue up with a friend in a T8, problem solved. If you don't have friends, be a better person 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #15 Posted November 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, LukkaiCH said: But are they? They're not, it's just more whining. T11 DDs and BBs are mostly pointless so far. Hannovers are just the same guys going full W in Großer Kurfürst, but you can farm them for an extra 20K now, that's great. Yamagiris are just the same guys going down the 10 line in 17900HP shimakazes, but they have 3 extra torpedoes, oh no! Super CVs and double annapolis + gearing smoke slave divisions are problematic but you can queue up with a friend in a strong T8 and never face them if you so choose. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-N-W] LukkaiCH [S-N-W] Players 547 posts 13,817 battles Report post #16 Posted November 30, 2022 Gerade eben, COPlUM sagte: Yamagiris are just the same guys going down the 10 line in 17900HP shimakazes, but they have 3 extra torpedoes, oh no! Actually the extra torpedoes don't make as much of a difference to Shima as the extra hp does, in my experience. So yeah, we seem to be on the same page here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #17 Posted November 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, LukkaiCH said: Actually the extra torpedoes don't make as much of a difference to Shima as the extra hp does, in my experience. So yeah, we seem to be on the same page here. Good DD main will do better in yamagiri because he has 20% more HP and a funny button. But most shima/yamagiri players don't use their HP (or their guns) They are the quintessential "Uhm sorry sweety I don't use guns, only torpedoes" ship. Seeing them use guns to finish off other DDs is more rare than seeing conquerors shoot AP. It happens and you instantly know the guy is good at the game when it happens. 95% of shima players launch torpedoes at a DD with 400HP that's gunning them down So out there, in the real world, shimakazes having 3 extra torpedoes is almost irrelevant. The 20% more HP could be significant but it's not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #18 Posted November 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Seraphice said: May I remind you that intentionally griefing matches is against our EULA? May I remind you that CVs and subs are just pure griefers?! 13 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,656 battles Report post #19 Posted November 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Seraphice said: May I remind you that intentionally griefing matches is against our EULA? Yet you put submarines in the game...? I smell more than a whiff of inconsistency here... 11 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-N-W] LukkaiCH [S-N-W] Players 547 posts 13,817 battles Report post #20 Posted November 30, 2022 Vor 1 Stunde, COPlUM sagte: Good DD main will do better in yamagiri because he has 20% more HP and a funny button. But most shima/yamagiri players don't use their HP (or their guns) They are the quintessential "Uhm sorry sweety I don't use guns, only torpedoes" ship. Seeing them use guns to finish off other DDs is more rare than seeing conquerors shoot AP. It happens and you instantly know the guy is good at the game when it happens. But then the good player in a Shima/Yama is what I'm worried about. The 20km torpedo spammer... not so much. With the latter, it basically does not make a difference whether they are driving a Shima or a Yama period. In the hands of a good player though, you will feel the difference. But it won't be the torpedo count as much as that he is harder to kill in the Yama. Of course there is also the not so good player who goes into close and/or gun combat with the Yama. But with him also, those extra torpedoes do not make as much of a difference as the extra health that may just be enough to outlast you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #21 Posted November 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Verblonde said: Yet you put submarines in the game...? Playing submarines isn't comparable to going AFK in J10 because you're bottom tier. It's one of the few things WG actually bans people for, not just a "thank you for reporting this" reply. He's gonna get yeeted if he does it and enough people report it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #22 Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, LukkaiCH said: But then the good player in a Yama is what I'm worried about. He's playing daring, vampire or ambush build kleber instead though. I'm going to worry a bit when they release T11 daring and T11 kleber, stuff good DD mains will actually want to play. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-N-W] LukkaiCH [S-N-W] Players 547 posts 13,817 battles Report post #23 Posted November 30, 2022 Vor 2 Minuten, COPlUM sagte: He's playing daring, vampire or ambush build kleber instead though. I'm going to worry a bit when they release T11 daring and T11 kleber, stuff good DD mains will actually want to play. Fair enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,239 battles Report post #24 Posted November 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Seraphice said: May I remind you that intentionally griefing matches is against our EULA? May I remind you that game is filled with bugs for who knows how many patch cycles now. May I remind you that wast majority of players didn't want subs in the game. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #25 Posted November 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Praetorias said: More bs superships. Remember guys, i will continue not to bother playing these matches, head to corner or ensure a standard non supership kills you by heading straight for them. Make sure supership players run at a loss and wg has completely ruined t9 and t10. NO REASON anymore to buy tier 9 premiums…. I dont play tier 9-10 so no issues, 4 hours ago, Seraphice said: May I remind you that intentionally griefing matches is against our EULA? Well that is obvious. Question is why he wants to go so far... Do you know why he is angry @Seraphice 1 hour ago, Verblonde said: Yet you put submarines in the game...? I smell more than a whiff of inconsistency here... Nobody nor their dogs wanted the submarines, WG denying there is problems is strait out lies 1 hour ago, COPlUM said: Playing submarines isn't comparable to going AFK in J10 because you're bottom tier. It's one of the few things WG actually bans people for, not just a "thank you for reporting this" reply. He's gonna get yeeted if he does it and enough people report it. This IS A MESS and WG created it by Not Listening to the community @Seraphice 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
