[88TH] Siagor Players 1,336 posts Report post #26 Posted November 30, 2022 10 hours ago, Seanld1_1 said: How on earth is the Dutch in the game and not the Austro-Hungarian line. I'm actually baffled. Austro-Hungarian Empire, Die Bezeichnung Kaiserlich und Königlich, dissolved on October 31, 1918. We have Viribus Unitis launched on June 24, 1911. What line of WW2, both pre-WW2 and late/post WW2 would you want? From an empire that ceased to exist at the end of WW 1. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #27 Posted November 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, SV_Kompresor said: You're welcome. If only there was a way to put multiple lines in the same tech tree. Well, there is and that is where one of those ships you mentioned will end. A-H even in that tree as a separate line is pointless as it would not be A-H line, but A-H & Yugoslav line, which, surprise surprise, is not A-H line. Quote Only when you ignore that it could. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #28 Posted November 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, fumtu said: it would not be A-H line, but A-H & Yugoslav line, which, surprise surprise, is not A-H line. And the problem with that would be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #29 Posted November 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, SV_Kompresor said: And the problem with that would be? And what T9 & T10 would be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #30 Posted November 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, fumtu said: And what T9 & T10 would be? The built version of the split at tier 9 and some paper design at tier 10? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #31 Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, SV_Kompresor said: The built version of the split at tier 9 and some paper design? So no consistency at all, nice. Maybe WG could pull some secrit Yugoslav project from their arse archive. Pointless ship for a pointless line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #32 Posted November 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, fumtu said: So no consistency at all, nice. Maybe WG could pull some secrit Yugoslav project from their arse archive. Pointless ship for a pointless line. Just like 90% of the lines. Maybe we should only have the 100% real lines. There's like what, 3 of them? + one or two cv lines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #33 Posted November 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, SV_Kompresor said: Just like 90% of the lines. Maybe we should only have the 100% real lines. There's like what, 3 of them? + one or two cv lines. I never said that, did I? But then some lines have pure WG fantasies. In some cases there is a sense for this, like for example to finish German cruisers of BBs, but making out a ship for a pointless line is ridicules when you can just create more consistent and better thought line just by using all other ships from the rest of Europe instead of splitting them into lines which have no sense at all. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WildWind84 Players 604 posts 15,961 battles Report post #34 Posted November 30, 2022 WG make here very smart decision and put all in Europe line. I hope just it will stay that, just Europe line (ofc, with adding bbs and cruisers). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #35 Posted November 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, fumtu said: I never said that, did I? But then some lines have pure WG fantasies. In some cases there is a sense for this, like for example to finish German cruisers of BBs, but making out a ship for a pointless line is ridicules when you can just create more consistent and better thought line just by using all other ships from the rest of Europe instead of splitting them into lines which have no sense at all. You kind of did though. It's literally two ships that would have to be designs that were never built. You're asking for a bit much at this point. Copy pastes are the only thing left otherwise. Yay more fletchers. Quote you can just create more consistent and better thought line just by using all other ships from the rest of Europe Whoch part of this would be more consistent exactly as opposed to using designs used from a single country where it matters? Have you looked at the pan asian line? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #36 Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, SV_Kompresor said: You kind of did though. It's literally two ships that would have to be designs that were never built. You're asking for a bit much at this point. But are there two ships that were design but never built by Yugoslavia? If they are please tell me Just now, SV_Kompresor said: Whoch part of this would be more consistent exactly as opposed to using designs used from a single country where it matters? Have you looked at the pan asian line? Yes, have you? Does any of them goes from 140mm slow firing gun to 127mm rapid firing one? And what is a point of your line in first place can you explain? Is it just to force A-H line? And if it is, what does it have with A-H, when nothing above T3 or T4 was actually from it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #37 Posted November 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, fumtu said: But are there two ships that were design but never built by Yugoslavia? If they are please tell me I don't even understand the question. 7 minutes ago, fumtu said: Yes, have you? Does any of them goes from 140mm slow firing gun to 127mm rapid firing one? Does any of them have a similar gameplay style apart from the last 3? 7 minutes ago, fumtu said: And what is a point of your line in first place can you explain? Is it just to force A-H line? And if it is, what does it have with A-H, when nothing above T3 or T4 was actually from it? You're the only one that's fixated exclusively on austria hungary here so idk, ask yourself that. I look at what ships are left and how to make tech trees that are still filled with real ships. In case you haven't noticed, we're kind of running out of those. Unless you just copy paste fletchers into 20 different trees which would technically be real, but I don't like copy pastas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #38 Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, SV_Kompresor said: I don't even understand the question. So you said that It's literally two ships that would have to be designs that were never built. So what two ships? Do you know any or you are just hoping there are some designs? 1 minute ago, SV_Kompresor said: Does any of them have a similar gameplay style apart from the last 3? Well, there should be 1 minute ago, SV_Kompresor said: You're the only one that's fixated exclusively on austria hungary here so idk, ask yourself that. Me? Lol, Please, I am not the one who suggested it in the first place and staunchly defending it sense then. 1 minute ago, SV_Kompresor said: I look at what ships are left and how to make tech trees that are still filled with real ships. In case you haven't noticed, we're kind of running out of those. Unless you just copy paste fletchers into 20 different trees. Well this line would not be. If you didn't noticed there is no 8 real ships, but barely 4, line itself is pointless. You could make a line from all European ship, well most of of it and yet you are stuck trying to create a line just from two just because ... what exactly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #39 Posted November 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, fumtu said: So you said that It's literally two ships that would have to be designs that were never built. So what two ships? Do you know any or you are just hoping there are some designs? Does it matter? Whether the're "real paper designs" or wg makes them up, they were never built. (Though tbh I very much doubt any nation ever check just one design and is done with it). 10 minutes ago, fumtu said: Me? Lol, Please, I am not the one who suggested it in the first place and staunchly defending it sense then. I didn't either. Check my first comment. 10 minutes ago, fumtu said: Well this line would not be. If you didn't noticed there is no 8 real ships, but barely 4, line itself is pointless. I count 8. Well, 7.5 as you could clearly see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #40 Posted November 30, 2022 2 hours ago, SV_Kompresor said: I mean....for DDs you can make a full line with 8 out of the 10 ships being real historical (and unique) ships (though it wouldn't strictly be called an AH line) 2 hours ago, SV_Kompresor said: Apart from the fact that they (until the fall) for the most part operated and built them. That's close enough for me. Yup I checked 3 minutes ago, SV_Kompresor said: Does it matter? Whether the're "real paper designs" or wg makes them up, they were never built. (Though tbh I very much doubt any nation ever check just one design and is done with it). So ... nope, you can just say like that 4 minutes ago, SV_Kompresor said: I count 8. Well, 7.5. Well, I would not count T1 as it is not DD, Tatra, nothing after it as there is nothing that could fit to either T3 ot T4, Beograd class at T5 or T6, which means one of them is empty, T7 Dubrovnik, T8 Split and that is it. 4 real ships. You just put split again at T9, so same ship in different configuration and nothing to follow it at T10. Again what is a point of this line? Especially considering that T8 and T9 have nothing in common except that they are the same ship? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NSVE] iFax [NSVE] Players 535 posts 20,285 battles Report post #41 Posted November 30, 2022 10 hours ago, Seanld1_1 said: How on earth is the Dutch in the game and not the Austro-Hungarian line. I'm actually baffled. Any thoughts on this would it be a good addition and what ungodly gimmick would it have if it were to be added? Potential sales figures might say "no"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #42 Posted November 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, fumtu said: Yup I checked Not well enough clearly. You can see that I said it woupdn't be called an ah line. 15 minutes ago, fumtu said: So ... nope, you can just say like that Because it doesn't matter. You could've also acknowledged that. 15 minutes ago, fumtu said: nothing after it as there is nothing that could fit to either T3 ot T4, Triglav is. And there was another one that I can't recall atm. 15 minutes ago, fumtu said: You just put split again at T9, so same ship in different configuration and nothing to follow it at T10 I mean....it's a real ship that is massively different from the original. That's kind of the point. It's not like it's the first time it's been done. 15 minutes ago, fumtu said: Again what is a point of this line? What's the point of any line? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[88TH] Siagor Players 1,336 posts Report post #43 Posted November 30, 2022 Well then, how about an Aztec or Mayan line? Even better, an Atlantis one? (subs, of course) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #44 Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, SV_Kompresor said: Not well enough clearly. You can see that I said it woupdn't be called an ah line. And yet when I pointed the same thing to you you defended it. Considering that we are talking in the thread that is about Austro-Hungarian line I thought it should be relevant to it but seems like it is not. Just a random post to ... post something I guess then. Nice 1 minute ago, SV_Kompresor said: Triglav is. And there was another one that I can't recall atm. Did you look into Triglav stats? Did you compare it with other T3 ships maybe? Aging shoveling a ship in place where it does not belong. But hey it is real right! And you can't remember another one as there is none, at least not one that was built. 1 minute ago, SV_Kompresor said: What's the point of any line? What is a point of the game? Or us? Or this planet? Yup this is a great conversation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #45 Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, fumtu said: What is a point of the game? Or us? Or this planet? Yup this is a great conversation. Don't usk pointless questions if you don't want similar responses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #46 Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, SV_Kompresor said: Don't usk pointless questions if you don't want similar responses. Well we can agree there. Talking about pointless lines is just that ... pointless. Thanks for conversation, no hard feelings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #47 Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, fumtu said: Well we can agree there. Talking about pointless lines is just that ... pointless. Thanks for conversation, no hard feelings. Tell wg to stop releasing new lines. They're pointless afterall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #48 Posted November 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, SV_Kompresor said: Tell wg to stop releasing new lines. They're pointless afterall. Nah, WG is not listening to me and not all lines are pointless, just some ... like this one. Holly Roman Empire BB line will be great tho. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CSOL] TheKaramelka Players 241 posts 3,747 battles Report post #49 Posted November 30, 2022 12 hours ago, Seanld1_1 said: How on earth is the Dutch in the game and not the Austro-Hungarian line. I'm actually baffled. Any thoughts on this would it be a good addition and what ungodly gimmick would it have if it were to be added? Already in the European tech tree. Now its Tatra (DD Tier 2) and Viribus Unitis (BB Tier 5) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-N-W] LukkaiCH [S-N-W] Players 547 posts 13,817 battles Report post #50 Posted November 30, 2022 Vor 5 Stunden, fumtu sagte: it would not be A-H line, but A-H & Yugoslav line, which, surprise surprise, is not A-H line Vor 5 Stunden, SV_Kompresor sagte: And the problem with that would be? The fact that this makes it a PanEuropean line. Oh wait, we already have that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites