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[Seanld1_1]

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[LukkaiCH]

Not a good addition due to the lack of any higher tier ships. At best you could get them up to VI?

 

And there is the Viribis Unitis premium and Tátra tech-tree. So at least it's not missing completely.

[zappori]

Where is Austro-Hungarian sea? Danube?

[LukkaiCH]

Vor 56 Minuten, zappori sagte:

Where is Austro-Hungarian sea? Danube?

Seriously? You couldn't have been bothered to even look at wikipedia? Which would have taken less time than writing and sending that posting?

 

Try the Adriatic Sea.

[Northern_Nightowl]

Vor 57 Minuten, zappori sagte:

Where is Austro-Hungarian sea? Danube?

No, it would rather be the Adriatic. Until 1918, parts of modern-day Italy and Croatia with Serbia saw for that Austro-Hungary had an access to the sea. So, why not having the K.u.K. still alive later on, alternative history with big gun ships à la Großer Kurfürst and Incomparable that could have been implemented hadn't the CV taken over is already there.

 

I could very well see a line of small, sturdy and nimble BB (kind of crossover between US Standards and German ships) along with fast and fragile cruisers ("Italian" pattern, but with "European" torpedoes, again as crossover) and DD with few but even harder hitting torpedoes than the IJN has (could fit with history, as Robert Whitehead experimented with early torpedoes in... Fiume, then Austro-Hungary).

 

Regards, Nightowl

[Onsterfelijke]

5 hours ago, Seanld1_1 said:

How on earth is the Dutch in the game and not the Austro-Hungarian line. I'm actually baffled.

Any thoughts on this would it be a good addition and what ungodly gimmick would it have if it were to be added? 

They put those ships in the European line as there aren't enough for complete lines. The Dutch were around for 500 years and still are that why they have their line (and a lot of Dutch play WG and spends money..) And the Austro-Hunarian nation is gone for more then 100 years.

Now If WG brings out Pre WWI naval battle game they will be in there. (Even the Dutch but with a lot less of ships then the Austro-Hungarian)

[Naval_Hurricane]

There are some Austro-Hungarian ships even today. The Viribus Unitis T5 premium BB, T2 techtree DD Tatra also. But yeah, they'll be eventually adding some stuff in the future. 

[Figment]

7 hours ago, Seanld1_1 said:

How on earth is the Dutch in the game and not the Austro-Hungarian line. I'm actually baffled.

 

A lot of Dutch ships (cruisers) actually served during WWII in the East Indies, even as fleet leader of the combined Australian/British/Dutch fleet fighting the Japanese until the US fleets came into the region and some high grade WWII battlecruisers were about to be built at the start of the war. So yes, they have a very valid Reason d'Être in game.

 

But eventually we're likely to see more Dutch ships:

- Dutch Battleships (at least low tier, possibly as premiums), based on WWI era paper plans.

- Dutch aircraft carriers (3 escort carriers and two proper carriers, the latter both called Karel Doorman. I'd presume the latter two will be premiums up to T8)

- Dutch submarines (they could do two lines with those even, an O and K line, possibly with some British/US sub copies mixed in as high tier premiums)

- Dutch destroyers (I'd expect a split line)

 

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Any thoughts on this would it be a good addition and what ungodly gimmick would it have if it were to be added? 

I don't think you can produce a "complete" high tier line with the Austrian-Hungarian empire without a lot of paper. Then again paper was used for the Dutch as well, but at least the Dutch had ports to let the paper get wet in and the paper was actually planned to go into production on short notice.

 

As others said, I'd expect to see Austrian ships in the bottom half of the EU line. There's at least one Austrian special captain we'd need: Captain von Trapp.

 

I wouldn't mind nations with mostly low tiers to have their own lines and simply end at T6-7 though, or even a lot of 'sidegrading' lines. Unfortunately WG is fond of power creep to drive sales of premium time.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

For reference:

 

https://naval-encyclopedia.com/ww1/k-u-k-kriegsmarine.php

 

https://naval-encyclopedia.com/ww1/dutch-navy.php

[Yedwy]

I would like some, wouldnt mind the T6/7 max lines although we have pure fantasy in T8+ more often then not these days so does it really matter?

[S_h_i_v_a]

WG is inventing a Pan-American cruiser line, so they could invent an Austro-Hungaria too.

 

But i suppose it's a "numbers" thing. How many players in South America, and how many in Austria?

 

 

 

 

[lovelacebeer]

Unless WG went full fantasy and made up ideas for higher tiers (not impossible with WG to be fair) it would be very hard to make an actual line.

 

At best you could hope for more low tiers & mid tier additions but WG are rather focused on higher tier at present so I wouldn’t get my hopes up.
 

Still never hurts to propose some interesting candidates. 

[Yedwy]

3 minutes ago, S_h_i_v_a said:

But i suppose it's a "numbers" thing. How many players in South America, and how many in Austria?

Its not just Austria but rest of the former monarchy, like my great grandfather served in the AH navy and my country formed most of its coastline…

[SV_Kompresor]

I mean....for DDs you can make a full line with 8 out of the 10 ships being real historical (and unique) ships (though it wouldn't strictly be called an AH line), for BBs...not so much. You'd need made up ships above tier 6 so, eh, maybe, maybe not. But then again we are getting a south american tree and we already have a line full of ww1 wannabe designs (and a design from 1914 at tier 10) so who knows, and let's not even speak of the cruisers. One or two premiums is all one can hope for. As for the dutch, I mean, they were still a colonial empire at that point so what's weird about that?

[fumtu]

9 minutes ago, S_h_i_v_a said:

WG is inventing a Pan-American cruiser line, so they could invent an Austro-Hungaria too.

 

PA actually had more modern ships and projects which could fill gaps, A-H ended 1918, what could they offer for high tiers. BB lines would probably have the most to offer as there were some projects, but none of them could compare to high tiers for other nations, which is understandable as A/H did not have capacity or reason to build huge BBs that could match size of Bismarck or Iowa class.

 

1 minute ago, SV_Kompresor said:

I mean....for DDs you can make a full line with 8 out of the 10 ship being real historical (and unique) ships (though it wouldn't strictly be called an AH line)

 

And how would you do that? If you mean using Yugoslav ships, that would be ridicules as they have nothing with A-H. It would be like putting USS Wisconsin in RN line, as US was once British colony. And even than there would be not enough ships, definitely not 8 real ships.

[SV_Kompresor]

12 minutes ago, fumtu said:

And how would you do that? If you mean using Yugoslav ships, that would be ridicules as they have nothing with A-H. It would be like putting USS Wisconsin in RN line, as US was once British colony.

Apart from the fact that they (until the fall) for the most part operated and built them. That's close enough for me. I don't remember the UK participating in the construction and operation of wisconsin on their soil.

 

12 minutes ago, fumtu said:

And even than there would be not enough ships, definitely not 8 real ships.

Yes, yes there would've been. (well, if you include a ship that was half finished but then redesigned and launched as another design making it two separate classes)

[pra3y]

They probably thought its pointless to include a navy that ceased to exist Its like saying spain has the best navy just because the spanish armada existed 

 

On the otherhand, i guess there are more choices in the dutch line comparing both of them.

[fumtu]

10 minutes ago, SV_Kompresor said:

Apart from the fact that they (until the fall) for the most part operated and built them.

 

Who operated and built them? A-H? I am not sure about which ships you are talking, but none of the Yugoslav DDs was built or operated by A-H.

[SV_Kompresor]

1 minute ago, fumtu said:

 

Who operated and built them? A-H? I am not sure about which ships you are talking, but none of the Yugoslav DDs was built or operated by A-H.

I'll go with "pretending to not know what the other party meant" for 500 alex, thank you.

[fumtu]

2 minutes ago, SV_Kompresor said:

I'll go with "pretending to not know what the other party meant" for 500 alex, thank you.

 

Then please educate me and list those 8 out of 10 real projects for A-H DD line

[SV_Kompresor]

20 minutes ago, fumtu said:

 

Then please educate me and list those 8 out of 10 real projects for A-H DD line

Ok,

tier 1, random patrol boat (can be a real ship),

tier 2-4 tatra and its successor classes (can be real ships),

tiers 5, 6, 7 (two of those), beograd and dubrovnik (one of the tiers being a paper ship),

tier 8 split (that we're getting)

tier 9 r-10,

tier 10, something paper.

[fumtu]

11 minutes ago, SV_Kompresor said:

tiers 5, 6, 7 (two of those), beograds and dubrovniks (one of the tiers being a paper ship),

 

Beograd class are based on French Bourrasque class and all three are laid in 1936. Beograd, was built by Ateliers et Chantiers de la Loire at Nantes, France, while Zagreb and Ljubljana, were built by Jadranska brodogradilišta at Split, Yugoslavia, under French supervision

 

Dubrovnik was built for the Royal Yugoslav Navy by Yarrow Shipbuilders in Glasgow in 1930 and 1931.

 

11 minutes ago, SV_Kompresor said:

tier 8 split (that we're getting)

 

Split was designed by French company Ateliers et Chantiers de la Loire based on Le Fantasque-class destroyer design. She was built by Yarrow Shipbuilders at their shipyard in Split.

 

Those ships has nothing with A-H. 

[SV_Kompresor]

15 minutes ago, fumtu said:

Those ships has nothing with A-H. 

So it's the name that bothers you then is it? Call it panyugohungarostrian line then kek.

[fumtu]

15 minutes ago, SV_Kompresor said:

So it's the name that bothers you then is it? Call it panyugohungarostrian line then kek.

 

Well we already have PE line, PAH is completely pointless, thank you. And A-H could not provide line of it own, even with stealing those which has nothing to do with it. 

[SV_Kompresor]

1 minute ago, fumtu said:

 

Well we already have PE line, PAH is completely pointless, thank you.

You're welcome. If only there was a way to put multiple lines in the same tech tree.

 

2 minutes ago, fumtu said:

And A-H could not provide line of it own, even with stealing those which has nothing to do with it. 

Only when you ignore that it could.