Tromp

[Varian_Dorn]

9 hours ago, Thalandor_gaming said:

how stupid of me to think that a thread titled Tromp would be about the new dutch destroyed Tromp. I should have known that it was about submarines and planes and whether it's okay to release fictional ships or not.

Can we please return to the topic? Tromp is a ship which offers a new and unique gameplay. But most likely it will be very hard to play which makes threads liek this even more important to exchange ideas how to make the ship work. Please pull yourself together and stop spamming offtopic answers, especially about topics that have been discussed countless times already.

Sorry. Got a bit carried away.

 

I´m looking forward to give Tromp a spin myself once its available for coal. A (so far) unique combination on a DD indeed. I´ve seen what clever cruiser captains can do with those dutch airstrikes, with Tromp it should be easier due to its improved concealment. And torpedoes too? Count me in.

[DDG_121]

44 minutes ago, Varian_Dorn said:

And torpedoes too?

Little underwhelming though. But still... Better than F.Sherman.

 

I look forward to it too. It is kind of unique in its playstyle.

[Onsterfelijke]

2 hours ago, LukkaiCH said:

You honestly believe that would stop them?

 

Not like the Tone planes work as in real life either. What should keep them from doing it again on the I-400?

Please bring Subs up in the Subs threads those ships are already terrible.

 

Tromp is a ship which started with bad stats and atributes during Tests they improved her a lot she needed that.

The first try i encounter her with my shimi which i could easy outdo her with guns... and after she attacked me with planes i was he that is the Tromp not that the planes could hit me as i moved out of my smoke.

The speed boost improvement was needed as she had that in RL too as she could reach 35,2 knots when the engines went full power. The only regret is her AA doesn't have Flak while she has Bofors 40mm which is a rather big miss. I hope her sister ship is more AA when she comes.

 

 

[CptMinia]

Hello, removed off-topic posts, please respect the rules folks.

 

Regards,

               Minia

[DDG_121]

I kinda like the gameplay. At least it is unique in some way.

 

Airstrikes can be used more effectively since it is a DD (if you're not being spotted by another DD or CV)

 

Guns are effective against DDs, and range can be used to harrass BBs.

[Ramsettin]

She doesn’t have a Smoke Generator or Repair Party, and her concealment is average. I can only play it for airstrike, but it's also short range and has less penetration of bombs compared to dutch cruisers. So getting Tromp is not among my priorities. I understand it offers different gameplay, but there are missing consumables.

[quickr]

3 hours ago, Ramsettin said:

She doesn’t have a Smoke Generator or Repair Party, and her concealment is average. I can only play it for airstrike, but it's also short range and has less penetration of bombs compared to dutch cruisers. So getting Tromp is not among my priorities. I understand it offers different gameplay, but there are missing consumables. 

At the same time Tromp is best fun I had in ages....

[lafeel]

3 hours ago, Ramsettin said:

 

She doesn’t have a Smoke Generator or Repair Party, and her concealment is average. I can only play it for airstrike, but it's also short range and has less penetration of bombs compared to dutch cruisers. So getting Tromp is not among my priorities. I understand it offers different gameplay, but there are missing consumables. 

First of all, can you please use a different colour, that's almost impossible to read on a dark background.

 

Also, she's most definetly on the slow and not that agile side for a DD.

[Redcap375]

On 11/29/2022 at 8:55 AM, Europizza said:

I will get this. Shoot, torp, drop, so many options!

 

How are you liking it so far?

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

44 minutes ago, Redcap375 said:

 

How are you liking it so far?

Its hilarious. I hit more bombs then shells so far lol, and thats not because its guns are inaccurate. Its niche. Not competetive probably. Funbote. Gimmicky.

[Redcap375]

2 minutes ago, Europizza said:

Its hilarious. I hit more bombs then shells so far lol, and thats not because its guns are inaccurate. Its niche. Not competetive probably. Funbote.

 

4rtur says it's a fun ships and something different too.

 

Might just get it purely for that.

[Yedwy]

She is different, she was built, i got her for coal 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

32 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

She is different, she was built, i got her for coal 

And our Airforce learned how to drop bombs in square shaped cones 

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

Gotta say, whatever WG is smoking I want some, must be da shaiiit!

 

I was looking in the premium shop to see if I could buy Tromp with doubloons I have laying around from old anniversaries and crates or even maybe purchase some doubloons, and with the new coupon and saw the price....

 

 

 

So, one small ship out of hundreds that will most likely get nerfed in the future cost the same as 2 mayor new released Triple A PC titels (for example "The Callisto Protocol")?                           .............. Like HOW............!?!?!

 

Are whales in this game actually this foolish? Because im guessing since WG price the ships like this that they actually sell some?

 

Do "Special offer" means its just SPEEASHUUUALL players that buy it?

 

So I guess I just grind some more Coal as usual and get it totally for free in a month or so. But seriously? Do they sell 1 premium ship (that anything can happen to) in this game to actual people for this amount of money?!

 

On another note, Saw PQ videos and it seemed like the airstrike module was quite good on this DD build. 

[ItsEyeJasper]

On 12/13/2022 at 12:40 PM, Ramsettin said:

her concealment is average

if i am not mistaken 5.9km is more than ok,  The ships you have to really watch out for are usually higher than 6.1km. Guns hit hard, reload could be a little bit better, But you have Bombs. I still killed a Smalland with them because why not and Hit a Halland for 19k 

 

[Ubertron_X]

On 12/16/2022 at 8:08 PM, Europizza said:

Its hilarious. I hit more bombs then shells so far lol, and thats not because its guns are inaccurate. Its niche. Not competetive probably. Funbote. Gimmicky.

The answer to a radar cruiser behind an island is Tromp on the opposite site of said island, aka the great Northern Lights B/C standoff.

[EgyptOverseer]

What a surprise. A ship where the gimmick is the use of air dropped ordinance from any position and ignoring line of sight, which according to WG must be immune to damage or anti aircraft warfare, is considered strong. Who would have thought? The old story of "create the rpoblem, sell the solution"... 

[LukkaiCH]

Vor 7 Stunden, OldschoolGaming_YouTube sagte:

Gotta say, whatever WG is smoking I want some, must be da shaiiit!

 

I was looking in the premium shop to see if I could buy Tromp with doubloons I have laying around from old anniversaries and crates or even maybe purchase some doubloons, and with the new coupon and saw the price....

Pretty much standard for when a tier X appears for money, to be honest.

 

But yeah, I'm just gathering the coal for it. Doesn't take that long after all.

[Yedwy]

Yeah I got mine for coal and a bit of steel few days back, like what am I supposed to get otherwise? Malta? I dont like CVs that much... Iwami?  I have Musashi since the day she came to live and Hizen as well... I have Sarge and Carnot and most of the other cr*p as well... At least as a real boat she is collectible for me...

[TheAlba2014]

I no get till blonde whig camo available...

[Onsterfelijke]

15 hours ago, EgyptOverseer said:

What a surprise. A ship where the gimmick is the use of air dropped ordinance from any position and ignoring line of sight, which according to WG must be immune to damage or anti aircraft warfare, is considered strong. Who would have thought? The old story of "create the rpoblem, sell the solution"... 

You know those planes can't spot so if you don't know where the enemy is you can't hit it. You can drop on the last know position ofcourse but who is laying still in this game.

And you can shoot the planes down before they drop bombs if you send a strike into a area where is a lot of AA you are luckly if 1 plane survive......

 

Tromp is a fun ship for Coal as you can use it in multiple ways .............................

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

11 hours ago, LukkaiCH said:

Pretty much standard for when a tier X appears for money, to be honest.

 

But yeah, I'm just gathering the coal for it. Doesn't take that long after all.

 

Im just amazed that anyone would buy ONE premium ship out of hundreds, which can be changed/nerfed at any moment for the same price that you can get 2 triple A PC gaming titles for.

 

And as you say, it's not even that hard to earn coal and get it for free by just daily grind. Just baffled over their pricing strategy. 

 

1 hour ago, Onsterfelijke said:

You know those planes can't spot so if you don't know where the enemy is you can't hit it. You can drop on the last know position ofcourse but who is laying still in this game.

And you can shoot the planes down before they drop bombs if you send a strike into a area where is a lot of AA you are luckly if 1 plane survive......

 

Tromp is a fun ship for Coal as you can use it in multiple ways .............................

 

Nice to have an option to sneak up with good conceal and surprise smoked up DDs and Smolensks by dropping them blind just using the shell tracers coming out of the smoke.

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

2 hours ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said:

Im just amazed that anyone would buy ONE premium ship out of hundreds, which can be changed/nerfed at any moment for the same price that you can get 2 triple A PC gaming titles for.

I believe this is to keep up the fantasy that these things are 'worth' something.

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

Seen a couple of players that invest in AFT for better range on the guns for a more gun build. I will probably NOT do this when I get Tromp because considering its a bit of a brick and no heal I would rather play it like one of the Swedish destroyers which I don't run AFT on either, so you can engage in short gunfights when running into an enemy DD but also disengage and go dark very fast to avoid taking to much damage.

 

Thoughts? Other experience?

[Yedwy]

1 hour ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said:

Seen a couple of players that invest in AFT for better range on the guns for a more gun build. I will probably NOT do this when I get Tromp because considering its a bit of a brick and no heal I would rather play it like one of the Swedish destroyers which I don't run AFT on either, so you can engage in short gunfights when running into an enemy DD but also disengage and go dark very fast to avoid taking to much damage.

 

Thoughts? Other experience?

I wouldnt either, I tried her with range module bit honestly her DPM is way to low for long range HE spamming, if one wants that Ragnar or Kleber/Khaba/Delny are better way to go, for potshots to CLs Elbing is better bang for buck anyhow, IMHO ranges in which one can use all 3 weapons is the best solution so 10-13km