UltraShirou Players 49 posts 2,615 battles Report post #1 Posted November 25, 2022 Hi there! Spoiler Long have i waited for a chance to post this request to devs again. Back home Lesta declined any possibility of adding Captain Hans Langsdorff as an unique commander. But i hope to find here a support from the people who value warrior honor above any prejudice. I ask you to vote. Each voice is important. Thank you. BTW we have a ship, but not a captain. Its unfair. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DK-MK] Varian_Dorn Players 804 posts 19,917 battles Report post #2 Posted November 25, 2022 We got Lutjens, why not Langsdorff? I support this idea. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCWVE] pzkpfwv1d Players 1,122 posts 20,370 battles Report post #3 Posted November 25, 2022 Langsdorf seems a good idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CB212] Ravohr611 Players 5 posts 2,334 battles Report post #4 Posted November 25, 2022 I also support more captains! would love to see Ernst Lindemann, the captain of the Bismarck or someone like Helmut Brinkmann 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SURFA] mdjmcnally Players 434 posts 18,350 battles Report post #5 Posted November 25, 2022 Would this just be a commander or would they have any enhanced skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #6 Posted November 25, 2022 49 minutes ago, mdjmcnally said: Would this just be a commander or would they have any enhanced skills. Seems the various commander categories are in a bit of mess, currently. https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Special_Commanders Before adding any more commanders, it would be good if WG would sort this mess out and we could have better defined categories that are clear and easily understandable. All these terms are fine in themselves, but there's no point having different terms in the game client. Whatever terms we use, should be consistent. With commanders that are real historical figures, the term that most springs up is historic, though some might be seen as legendary as well. How that would translate into enchanced skills and/or talents would need some thought, IMO. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COTNS] _Mad_Thom_ Players 172 posts 27,854 battles Report post #7 Posted November 25, 2022 Seems like Langsdorf lost a battle, scuttled his ship, and then killed himself. Not sure he is such a great pick. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #8 Posted November 25, 2022 Uhm.. Here's an interesting analysis of his actions. https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-competence-of-Hans-Langsdorff-during-the-Battle-of-the-River-Plate-questioned 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PBF] CapnGebs Players 236 posts Report post #9 Posted November 25, 2022 I have nothing against adding this commander but perhaps if the developers are adding commanders they could prioritise commanders for nations that only have 1 special commander or even dont have any yet? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #10 Posted November 25, 2022 I don't think that WG can add all those real captains as they wish, as, if I am not wrong, there are some legal procedures behind it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #11 Posted November 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, fumtu said: I don't think that WG can add all those real captains as they wish, as, if I am not wrong, there are some legal procedures behind it. Would be interesting to know how that works, in general. Because obviously we've seen a lot of historical figures represented or portrayed in movies and TV, and also in a lot of games previously. We obviously have several historical figures as WoWS commanders as it is as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #12 Posted November 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: We obviously have several historical figures as WoWS commanders as it is as well. Yes, but I remember vaguely that they discussed about this earlier when they started adding them, they they need to get permission first. I doubt they can just add whoever they want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #13 Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, fumtu said: Yes, but I remember vaguely that they discussed about this earlier when they started adding them, they they need to get permission first. I doubt they can just add whoever they want. From next of kin then, most likely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karkong_the_Impaler Players 2,983 posts Report post #14 Posted November 25, 2022 How about Otto Kretschmer? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Kretschmer He could have special submersible scum skills such as reduced detection range or a faster torpedo reload? Or a ping that can't be washed off? If you don't like "Otto den Schweigsamen", you can randomly select one of the more successful submarine commanders, they're all German just like the fighter pilots. Which stems basically from the fact, that they weren't withdrawn from service to train new recruits like more sane countries did at that time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #15 Posted November 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: From next of kin then, most likely. Probably, but then which one of them can give such permission if there is more of them or if it is hard to find one in first place. Wonder how that works in last case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #16 Posted November 25, 2022 We already have Lutjens as German legendary commander but I do support the idea of adding more of them. For each nation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #17 Posted November 25, 2022 Konteradmiral Erich Bey commander of Kms Scharnhorst Admiral Bruce Fraser’s compliment to Scharnhorst Later in the evening, Fraser briefed his officers on board Duke of York: “Gentlemen, the battle against Scharnhorst has ended in victory for us. I hope that if any of you are ever called upon to lead a ship into action against an opponent many times superior, you will command your ship as gallantly as Scharnhorst was commanded today” 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SURFA] mdjmcnally Players 434 posts 18,350 battles Report post #18 Posted November 25, 2022 13 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Seems the various commander categories are in a bit of mess, currently. https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Special_Commanders Before adding any more commanders, it would be good if WG would sort this mess out and we could have better defined categories that are clear and easily understandable. All these terms are fine in themselves, but there's no point having different terms in the game client. Whatever terms we use, should be consistent. With commanders that are real historical figures, the term that most springs up is historic, though some might be seen as legendary as well. How that would translate into enchanced skills and/or talents would need some thought, IMO. To expand on what I meant then would the OP be looking for equiv of using British commanders as example Cunningham - where legendary and have enhanced skills and then talents that can activate upon certain achievements during the game, dunkirk brothers enhanced skills but not activated talent horace hood - paying 1500 doubloons for a real life commander from history however has no enhanced skills so simply brings the name and likeness to your commander. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #19 Posted November 26, 2022 On 11/25/2022 at 10:57 AM, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Seems the various commander categories are in a bit of mess, currently. https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Special_Commanders Before adding any more commanders, it would be good if WG would sort this mess out and we could have better defined categories that are clear and easily understandable. All these terms are fine in themselves, but there's no point having different terms in the game client. Whatever terms we use, should be consistent. With commanders that are real historical figures, the term that most springs up is historic, though some might be seen as legendary as well. How that would translate into enchanced skills and/or talents would need some thought, IMO. There are 4 "crystal" clear () categories Unique: Jerzy Swirsky, Cunninghqam, Yamamoto, Lutjenz, Halsey, Kuznetsov, Aubouneau and Sansonetti, Seasoned: Honore brothers, Dunkirk brothers, Jutland brothers, Ovechkin, Znamenski brotheers, Suzuki brothers, Rong twins, Doe brothers, De reuter and his grandson Janssen Event commanders: Includes historical persons, Horace Hood, Bonte, Trubetskoy also multiple Dascha´s, etc. Commanders: Includes High school girls, Yotario (the pink bear), Haloween commanders and random (normal) dudes etc. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #20 Posted November 26, 2022 30 minutes ago, Ronchabale said: There are 4 "crystal" clear () categories Unique: Jerzy Swirsky, Cunninghqam, Yamamoto, Lutjenz, Halsey, Kuznetsov, Aubouneau and Sansonetti, Seasoned: Honore brothers, Dunkirk brothers, Jutland brothers, Ovechkin, Znamenski brotheers, Suzuki brothers, Rong twins, Doe brothers, De reuter and his grandson Janssen Event commanders: Includes historical persons, Horace Hood, Bonte, Trubetskoy also multiple Dascha´s, etc. Commanders: Includes High school girls, Yotario (the pink bear), Haloween commanders and random (normal) dudes etc. There some overlap, so technically you would need two have more than one 'label' to put them under such as Legendary (or Heroic) historic commander, Seasoned historic commander and Historic event commander (note how the historic needs to shift due to grammar rules). The problem is there are more than one term that you can use for the same thing (seasoned means skilled, legendary is technically the same as talented and so on). The best I could suggest is that the terms change when they are used in different combos like having 'talented commanders' but if they are also 'historic' commanders they'd become legendary (meaning talented and historic). EDIT Actually, I started to really think this over. We should define the categories in terms of A) how we get them; B) what they can do; and, C) whether they are historic or not. In terms of how we can get the commanders there are three ways that I know of. You pay with money/dubs, you exhange them for resources or you get them as event rewards. Based on this you can have three distinct categories. Premium, special, and event commanders. In terms of what they can do, you have regular commanders, enhanced skills, or talents. This gives you the following: Regular, skilled, and talented commanders. Finally, the commanders can be either historic or not. Based on this, you could clearly call them by the following terms. Seasoned (= regular historic) commanders, heroic (skilled historic) commanders, and legendary (talented historic) commanders. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #21 Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Ronchabale said: There are 4 "crystal" clear () categories Unique: Jerzy Swirsky, Cunninghqam, Yamamoto, Lutjenz, Halsey, Kuznetsov, Aubouneau and Sansonetti, Seasoned: Honore brothers, Dunkirk brothers, Jutland brothers, Ovechkin, Znamenski brotheers, Suzuki brothers, Rong twins, Doe brothers, De reuter and his grandson Janssen Event commanders: Includes historical persons, Horace Hood, Bonte, Trubetskoy also multiple Dascha´s, etc. Commanders: Includes High school girls, Yotario (the pink bear), Haloween commanders and random (normal) dudes etc. You forgot the most irritating ones. The Transformers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #22 Posted November 26, 2022 30 minutes ago, RenamedUser_92906789 said: You forgot the most irritating ones. The Transformers. I dont have any of them, do they fit in with the rest of the clowns in "commander" class 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #23 Posted November 26, 2022 Would be nice if you could "buy" and equip a talent / skill to any commander for RB points, coal or steel "Lesser" talents coud be cheaper with the "better" talents costing more 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LGOD] Saint_Michaelus Players 382 posts 15,958 battles Report post #24 Posted November 26, 2022 I propose this guy : Gunichi Mikawa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunichi_Mikawa - a Japanese fleet commander which gave a Allied a tough lesson on Battle at Savo Island. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #25 Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Saint_Michaelus said: I propose this guy : Gunichi Mikawa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunichi_Mikawa - a Japanese fleet commander which gave a Allied a tough lesson on Battle at Savo Island. https://worldofwarships.asia/en/news/history/admirals-of-japan-pt04/ Interestingly, WOWS Legends seems to have him as a commander. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
