Tier 9/10 broken, supership bs

[Praetorias]

Superships are the worst introduction devs have brought to this game, i thought devs and management were incompetent but this is the worst.

 

tier9 completely ruined esp

 

I will not take part in supership games, head to corner, lose your ship to closest standard tech tree ship, prevent supership players making silver from their games.

 

why should i be pure cannon fodder for this crap.

 

takes ages to kill any, hidden citadels to make super powerful and then, THEN the idiots gave them F key salvos.  Beyond a joke.

 

The only reason they bought them was to take all your silver, reset the economy so they can make you buy more silver and gold.  All it means now is super silver rich can play their i win buttons and pad stats. Fk the rest of us!

 

No point getting tier 9 premiums or coal ships now.

 

 

[ColonelPete]

2 options

• do not play higher than Tier VIII
• play better

---> no cannon fodder

 

And considering the 40% supership players, the thing with the i-win-button does not seem to work like you say...

[Deksi_4]

22 minutes ago, Praetorias said:

Superships are the worst introduction devs have brought to this game, i thought devs and management were incompetent but this is the worst.

 

tier9 completely ruined esp

 

I will not take part in supership games, head to corner, lose your ship to closest standard tech tree ship, prevent supership players making silver from their games.

 

why should i be pure cannon fodder for this crap.

 

takes ages to kill any, hidden citadels to make super powerful and then, THEN the idiots gave them F key salvos.  Beyond a joke.

 

The only reason they bought them was to take all your silver, reset the economy so they can make you buy more silver and gold.  All it means now is super silver rich can play their i win buttons and pad stats. Fk the rest of us!

 

No point getting tier 9 premiums or coal ships now.

 

 

You are right, gameplay is becoming more and more bad for most players which dont play superships. However, you know that this is a pure arcade game, not a simulation right? I think that devs have ruined the gameplay with broken CVs, subs, and superships. Hybrid bbs are about to be realesed, so it will become even worse. Sweet days of glory for this game passed a long ago. From your coment I would say that you play randoms the most, have you try to play ranked and brawls? These are less stressfull than randoms. Try to find a mode in which you can enjoy the game. If not, try to play some other game. If any game makes you angry and full of stress, than it is the right time to change the game. For me personally random battles have become pure crap in high tier so I find tier 7-8 to be the sweet spot for me curently. 

[WeGreedy]

20 minutes ago, Praetorias said:

Superships are the worst introduction devs have brought to this game

I vote for carriers and subs. But of course, the combination (super carriers and soon tm super subs) will overshadow everything.

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

Yes.

[Itwastuesday]

Most (all?) T9 premiums are available for free resources, and even if they weren't they're probably too expensive for most people. So ruin high tiers and drive people to buy T8 and lower premium sub and carrier? 

 

The funny thing is that high tier is ruined with superships (and CV + sub). Mid tier ruined with being uptiered, submarines and carriers from +/-2 if you're even tier... Is WG expecting us to go ham on T2 premiums?

[Schelfie]

I can deal with superships, aircraft carriers and even hybrids. But the subs are absolutely killing it for me to the point I ragequit very often...

[HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS]

5 hours ago, Itwastuesday said:

Is WG expecting us to go ham on T2 premiums?

I am disappointed that we did not get Mikasa B and Tachibana B.

[Ocsimano18]

T8 is still getting uptiered and double uptiered significantly more than T9.

[Mr_Damager]

Tier 9 premium ships became no better than tier 8 ones. There is hardly any point in buying/getting them.

[Tanaka_15]

yeah just pure BS

[________________Morrison]

Just cope 

 

The introduction of super shites just made it so T10 isn't "top of the food chain" anymore.

 

Just think of them as lesser players that need better ships to dunk on their lowered counterparts.

 

Yamagiri players?

Just shittier shima mains that need more torps to hit their target.

 

USSUS players?

Just people that don't understand that Midway is better.

 

Conde/Annapolis players.

Sods that long awaited the steel varient of Desmoins and Henri.

And this is the closest that they got.

Most respectable out of the bunch. Still annoying however.

 

When I see stars It's more just like oh look theres more than one final boss. There are 5 on each team.

 

Huff that copium and just go into battle like normal.

 

 

[Ocsimano18]

2 minutes ago, Schijnheilig said:

Just cope 

 

The introduction of super shites just made it so T10 isn't "top of the food chain" anymore.

 

Just think of them as lesser players that need better ships to dunk on their lowered counterparts.

 

Yamagiri players?

Just shittier shima mains that need more torps to hit their target.

 

USSUS players?

Just people that don't understand that Midway is better.

 

Conde/Annapolis players.

Sods that long awaited the steel varient of Desmoins and Henri.

And this is the closest that they got.

Most respectable out of the bunch. Still annoying however.

 

When I see stars It's more just like oh look theres more than one final boss. There are 5 on each team.

 

Huff that copium and just go into battle like normal.

 

 

What do you think about Patrie mains?

[hypsar]

26 minutes ago, Schijnheilig said:

Just cope 

no i wont. i just feel that i got cheated by lesta (again) and to allow them to do the same once again would show that im a moron (which i am) ...

[lup3s]

Agree, gone with Supershits ! 

[________________Morrison]

1 hour ago, Ocsimano18 said:

What do you think about Patrie mains?

 

Patrie

 

Bourgogne

 

 

Bigger isn't always better.

Patrie mains don't know that Bourgogne exists or refuse to use it because Small gun BB. You're missing out.

 

Just get Bourgogne before its Bourgone.

 

[________________Morrison]

1 hour ago, hypsar said:

no i wont. i just feel that i got cheated by lesta (again) and to allow them to do the same once again would show that im a moron (which i am) ...

Then I don't see an issue here.

Am I wrong?

[Ubertron_X]

Didn't you all get the memo about WG's masterplan?

 

[KhorneFlake]

11 hours ago, Praetorias said:

Superships are the worst introduction devs have brought to this game, i thought devs and management were incompetent but this is the worst.

 

tier9 completely ruined esp

 

I will not take part in supership games, head to corner, lose your ship to closest standard tech tree ship, prevent supership players making silver from their games.

 

why should i be pure cannon fodder for this crap.

 

takes ages to kill any, hidden citadels to make super powerful and then, THEN the idiots gave them F key salvos.  Beyond a joke.

 

The only reason they bought them was to take all your silver, reset the economy so they can make you buy more silver and gold.  All it means now is super silver rich can play their i win buttons and pad stats. Fk the rest of us!

 

No point getting tier 9 premiums or coal ships now.

 

 

I only hear "boooo hooooo, the other children have bigger toys, I wanna go Home, mommy..."

 

Whats your age?

You're embarassing yourself

[NewHorizons_1]

1 hour ago, Schijnheilig said:

Just get Bourgogne before its Bourgone.

It's next on the list, before it does.

Just waiting for the coupon ...

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

2 hours ago, KhorneFlake said:

Whats your age?

You're embarassing yourself

No Uu

[Figment]

4 hours ago, Ocsimano18 said:

What do you think about Patrie mains?

Easily killed with Satsuma. ;)

 

 

 

 

That said, the Hannover is easy to deal with (not harder than a Kurfurst tbh), the Satsuma is similar to the various Yamato type ships in that you can citadel it proper (Hizen, Izumo, Shikishima, Yamato etc) all have similar citadellable areas. They're very easy to kill with torps due to being sluggish however and they burn very well, so a T9 DD shouldn't really have many issues with them, provided they don't try to gunboat them from within view. I can't say I've been very impressed by the T* BBs. That includes the Patrie.

 

The main issue is massive range with steep angles (can hit virtually anything hiding behind islands if it's spotted) at relatively quick reload and high accuracy. Citadels of 21K are overdone and Patrie of course can whammy you if you angle wrong to it (not like other BBs can't).

 

The T* cruisers can easily take 60% damage from TX/T* BBs, so I'm not too impressed by those either. As a DD it's much harder to handle them.

 

Yamagiri's may spam a lot of torps, the spread is pretty wide at range and therefore easily dodged and in duels it's easily bested by many DDs. So as long as the cruisers and DDs do their job and hunt them, they're not a problem. If - like many shima's - they're allowed to wreak havoc they're extremely powerful.

 

 

The Zorkiy is probably the one I've seen people struggle to deal with, I consider it to be one of the most powerful out of all of them.

[Ocsimano18]

1 hour ago, Animalul2012 said:

EU forum seems to get its own share of WG shills, much like NA it will probably become a shill fest. How can some of you in your tiny little brains accept the fact that ships like USS SUS, Satsuma, zorki, conde are healthy for the game?  Something tells me you are the same people who taught an 800$  AWP was balanced( good thing it was gone in 1 day unlike WG who seems to introduce more and more of it). 

Tier 9 is also screwed. I wonder if they realize that they have shut all they re tier 9 premiums income into a black hole. Who is gonna even buy Velos, Verdi or Dalian anyway? Or the available also for coal premiums? Or imagine getting an alaska, musashi, jean bart from a super container or santa gift. And then you realize "Oh no, What I am going to do with this? Get grieffed by billionares in credits?" 

But fight cancer with cancer, I will ruin as many supership games in balao and u2501 as much.

Tier9 screwed my T8 games for a long time. With the Patrie I get the top tier BB experience that a T8 BB gives me 1 out of 5 matches. You can whale a Musashi/Benham/Missouri, I don't care. I the poor premium player finally got the tools to face mega whales. Also the hated T10 open maps suddenly become enjoyable. This is what I'd expect from premium time that I had in the last 5 years. Don't tell me it's expensive. 12000 doubloons for a  year that you can partially buy with free doubloons/coupons.

 

And the Bourg, I have her. I consider making 150k damage as an above average battle; with the Patrie it's the minimum I can expect, and the Patrie regularly gives 200-250k damage.

[Figment]

1 hour ago, Animalul2012 said:

EU forum seems to get its own share of WG shills, much like NA it will probably become a shill fest.

You know, just because people disagree with you or don't seem too concerned because their personal skill is able to overcome such issues that WG throw at them, doesn't mean they're shills. No need to be so insultive towards people that disagree with you. Take a deep breath, apologise and move on.

1 hour ago, Animalul2012 said:

in your tiny little brains

Do you have evidence of this, as in measured? Otherwise it's - egads - an insult.

1 hour ago, Animalul2012 said:

How can some of you [...] accept the fact that ships like USS SUS, Satsuma, zorki, conde are healthy for the game? 

Healthy? I personally don't think they're any healthier than your average TX, but also not much more toxic. In need of balancing here and there? Sure, but otherwise they're not really that much better than a TX when you face them. Of course, if you usualy get beaten by the type of playstyle these individual ships each have, you'll get beaten harder.

 

But it's no worse power creep than already is present at other tiers. The gimmicks are barely impressive and mostly punishing bad positioning. The damage output is a little higher on average, mostly due to better survivability, but since they're on both sides, it's not that problematic and it depends on each team's target prioritization on what happens next.

 

As such I don't really care about the ships you mentioned, because they're not too different from similar ships a tier lower. The CVs are over the top however, as the TX IMO already were.

1 hour ago, Animalul2012 said:

Something tells me you are the same people who taught an 800$  AWP was balanced( good thing it was gone in 1 day unlike WG who seems to introduce more and more of it). 

As far as I know none of us taught people about an 800$ AWP.

 

We might have had THOUGHTS about it, but unless you can prove they're the same people, maybe not make assumptions?

1 hour ago, Animalul2012 said:

Tier 9 is also screwed. I wonder if they realize that they have shut all they re tier 9 premiums income into a black hole. Who is gonna even buy Velos, Verdi or Dalian anyway? Or the available also for coal premiums? Or imagine getting an alaska, musashi, jean bart from a super container or santa gift. And then you realize "Oh no, What I am going to do with this? Get grieffed by billionares in credits?"

`Personally I'd farm "billionaires for credits" since the quality of players in T* ships isn't better than that of other players. They have more HP though and are worth more to kill. So as a T9 you should get some very decent profits out of it. I've had the pleasure of meeting Hannovers in T8 late night with Cleveland and the payout for torching it to bits was ridiculously good. But hey.

1 hour ago, Animalul2012 said:

But fight cancer with cancer, I will ruin as many supership games in balao and u2501 as much.

Ah, free ASW exp. :)

[SeaWolf7]

Super ships need their own game rather than coming in to the existing ones and completely screwing with a less than already balanced game. This will only pee people off and the game will suffer further as a result imo.

In their own game where they would be evenly matched, Super ships would be a lot of fun, and WG could design new maps and gimmicks and create yet another option for players and in so increasing their player base further.