[VPM] OldSchoolFrankie [VPM] Players 989 posts 20,632 battles Report post #1 Posted November 13, 2022 Hello Wargaming, I have a question about the high tier random mode: Are you aware that the rounds are extremely one-dimensional at the moment? There are hardly any exciting rounds left. Many rounds don't even reach the 10 minute mark because many captains let their ships sink so incredibly quickly. You have many rounds where one team has been decimated by half while the other is still complete. If you are aware of this, then I would like to know what you intend to do about it? What are your plans? This trend has been evident for some time, but I don't see any action being taken by Wargaming, hence my question. @Seraphice I would ask you to forward the question, thanks. PS: Maybe this also applies to the other tiers, but I can't judge that because I don't like playing them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorthyOpponent Players 687 posts 5,439 battles Report post #2 Posted November 13, 2022 Doesn't really need to be high tier tbh Not mine, found it on Facebook and thought it was funny 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #3 Posted November 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, OldSchoolFrankie said: Hello Wargaming, I have a question about the high tier random mode: Are you aware that the rounds are extremely one-dimensional at the moment? There are hardly any exciting rounds left. Many rounds don't even reach the 10 minute mark because many captains let their ships sink so incredibly quickly. You have many rounds where one team has been decimated by half while the other is still complete. If you are aware of this, then I would like to know what you intend to do about it? What are your plans? This trend has been evident for some time, but I don't see any action being taken by Wargaming, hence my question. @Seraphice I would ask you to forward the question, thanks. PS: Maybe this also applies to the other tiers, but I can't judge that because I don't like playing them. Thats the spreadsheet balancing in a nutshell right there... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Tanaka_15 Beta Tester 2,514 posts 20,269 battles Report post #4 Posted November 13, 2022 I do belive it is intentional. More games, faster using resoursece more chance you buy prem or battle pass or other things. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VPM] OldSchoolFrankie [VPM] Players 989 posts 20,632 battles Report post #5 Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tanaka_15 said: I do belive it is intentional. More games, faster using resoursece more chance you buy prem or battle pass or other things. Absolutely possible, hence the question to Wargaming. Let's see what feedback we get. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #6 Posted November 13, 2022 43 minutes ago, OldSchoolFrankie said: Let's see what feedback we get. lol 8 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hypsar Players 287 posts Report post #7 Posted November 13, 2022 49 minutes ago, OldSchoolFrankie said: Let's see what feedback we get. optimist ...hoping for meaningful feedback from lesta 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #8 Posted November 13, 2022 Kudos for wasting your time and mental health by still playing Randoms. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #9 Posted November 13, 2022 Install matchmaking monitor 1) WR% gap is within reason => Play normally and try to win 2) WR% gap is greater than 5% in your favor => Drive in like a psychopath, you'll win anyway, you don't want to win having done 20K damage 3) WR% gap is greater than 5% in the enemy's favor => Start kiting, do damage, use your potato team as a meatshield to pad your damage, do not try to win, it's a waste of energy 4) Exception : WR% gap is within reason but your DDs are potatoes => See scenario 3 Does this solve the problem? No. But it makes the problem tolerable in the sense that every game is an opportunity. Scenario 1 is an opportunity to win Scenario 2 is an opportunity to do funny stuff Scenario 3 and 4 are an opportunity to be a selfish [edited] and just farm The trick is the ability to change your mindset on the fly depending on what kind of team you get, like if your team is really bad you want your DD to die immediately, if he dies immediately the enemy will push into you so you get to farm a lot, it takes real restraint to actively avoid helping your DD so it dies quicker. 6 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,306 battles Report post #10 Posted November 13, 2022 fun games yeah, people just yolo die 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] endlessBoogie [_I_] Players 270 posts 12,752 battles Report post #11 Posted November 13, 2022 Vor 8 Minuten, COPlUM sagte: Install matchmaking monitor 1) WR% gap is within reason => Play normally and try to win 2) WR% gap is greater than 5% in your favor => Drive in like a psychopath, you'll win anyway, you don't want to win having done 20K damage 3) WR% gap is greater than 5% in the enemy's favor => Start kiting, do damage, use your potato team as a meatshield to pad your damage, do not try to win, it's a waste of energy 4) Exception : WR% gap is within reason but your DDs are potatoes => See scenario 3 which leads to: Vor 1 Stunde, OldSchoolFrankie sagte: There are hardly any exciting rounds left. Many rounds don't even reach the 10 minute mark because many captains let their ships sink so incredibly quickly. You have many rounds where one team has been decimated by half while the other is still complete. By using Matchmaking-monitor the problem wont go away, it will grow. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #12 Posted November 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, endlessBoogie said: which leads to: By using Matchmaking-monitor the problem wont go away, it will grow. I know that, not my problem. If someone hit rock bottom stats, they have demonstrated -clearly- they do not care nor have they ever cared about winning, if they did, they would have bothered to learn something along the way. So they do not need, deserve and would not be able to make use of support. What they deserve is spot for me, with their face. Does this solve the problem? Hell no, it makes the problem worse, but it solves the problem for me, that's all I care about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K1NGS] PaP_Mentoles [K1NGS] Players 616 posts 17,494 battles Report post #13 Posted November 13, 2022 They are aware but simply they don't care. And they don't care because there are many pepengas that blindly waste their money on every sh@t-toy WeGreedy presents to them. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VPM] OldSchoolFrankie [VPM] Players 989 posts 20,632 battles Report post #14 Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, PaP_Mentoles said: They are aware but simply they don't care. And they don't care because there are many pepengas that blindly waste their money on every sh@t-toy WeGreedy presents to them. I feel the same way, but that's why I want to give Wargaming the opportunity to explain themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] endlessBoogie [_I_] Players 270 posts 12,752 battles Report post #15 Posted November 13, 2022 Vor 1 Stunde, COPlUM sagte: I know that, not my problem. If someone hit rock bottom stats, they have demonstrated -clearly- they do not care nor have they ever cared about winning, if they did, they would have bothered to learn something along the way. So they do not need, deserve and would not be able to make use of support. What they deserve is spot for me, with their face. Does this solve the problem? Hell no, it makes the problem worse, but it solves the problem for me, that's all I care about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ENUF] SnuSnu_RIP [ENUF] Players 858 posts 36,527 battles Report post #16 Posted November 13, 2022 3 hours ago, OldSchoolFrankie said: Absolutely possible, hence the question to Wargaming. Let's see what feedback we get. Hahaha, Frankie said "feedback".... 🤣 I think that's exactly what WG wants to happen. Quick games where people wasting their boosters, credits etc. And at the end they end up in the premiumshop. The problem of the very onesided games is existing since years, and WG did what exactly? Nothing, as usual. The only answer I got from an WG employee was, I quote: "It was always like that, you just became a better player - that's why you notice it now". If so many players notice it, it just means that all of them are better players now - so why the games are still that bad? KAPPA 4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VPM] OldSchoolFrankie [VPM] Players 989 posts 20,632 battles Report post #17 Posted November 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, SnuSnu_RIP said: Hahaha, Frankie said "feedback".... 🤣 I think that's exactly what WG wants to happen. Quick games where people wasting their boosters, credits etc. And at the end they end up in the premiumshop. The problem of the very onesided games is existing since years, and WG did what exactly? Nothing, as usual. The only answer I got from an WG employee was, I quote: "It was always like that, you just became a better player - that's why you notice now". If so many players notice it, it just means that all of them are better players now - so why the games are still that bad? KAPPA Yepp, i said it.. 🤣 If that's the case, then only geniuses play games these days. I know the statement you quoted, but that can no longer be taken seriously, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ENUF] SnuSnu_RIP [ENUF] Players 858 posts 36,527 battles Report post #18 Posted November 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, OldSchoolFrankie said: Yepp, i said it.. 🤣 If that's the case, then only geniuses play games these days. I know the statement you quoted, but that can no longer be taken seriously, right? I think they are serious about it, because it was also repeated in their official stream when someone was asking. So it seems they have an script with answers in case questions coming up 🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VPM] OldSchoolFrankie [VPM] Players 989 posts 20,632 battles Report post #19 Posted November 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, SnuSnu_RIP said: I think they are serious about it, because it was also repeated in their official stream when someone was asking. So it seems they have an script with answers in case questions coming up 🤣 I can very well imagine that they use scripted answers, but it is obvious that the rounds end faster and are more one-sided, right? Can you still deny that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #20 Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, OldSchoolFrankie said: I can very well imagine that they use scripted answers, but it is obvious that the rounds end faster and are more one-sided, right? Can you still deny that? short games happen from time to time. but if they happened always and more and more and so on and so on then why is my PR so high? Have I gotten so proficient at the game that despite games ending so quickly I manage to get the most of it? damn I must be a God 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VPM] OldSchoolFrankie [VPM] Players 989 posts 20,632 battles Report post #21 Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, AtaIante said: short games happen from time to time. but if they happened always and more and more and so on and so on then why is my PR so high? Have I gotten so proficient at the game that despite games ending so quickly I manage to get the most of it? damn I must be a God You are the hero! Thanks for your input, have a nice day, keep going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ENUF] SnuSnu_RIP [ENUF] Players 858 posts 36,527 battles Report post #22 Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, OldSchoolFrankie said: I can very well imagine that they use scripted answers, but it is obvious that the rounds end faster and are more one-sided, right? Can you still deny that? Of course not, you know my stream - I noticed this development 2-3 years before already, it's just getting worse and worse with every year. And especially in hightier, it's often a pure shitshow with no entertaining factor anymore. I don't even wanna play T10 to much anymore, the frustration is to big there. You know it Frankie... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #23 Posted November 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, OldSchoolFrankie said: You are the hero! Thanks for your input, have a nice day, keep going. Thank you very much too, have a great weekend. I hope you enjoy subs just as much as I do 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VPM] OldSchoolFrankie [VPM] Players 989 posts 20,632 battles Report post #24 Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, SnuSnu_RIP said: Of course not, you know my stream - I noticed this development 2-3 years before already, it's just getting worse and worse with every year. And especially in hightier, it's often a pure shitshow with no entertaining factor anymore. I don't even wanna play T10 to much anymore, the frustration is to big there. You know it Frankie... Yes, you pointed out the trend early on, but now so many are noticing it. There are so many who are fed up with these rounds and say so clearly. No matter where you read, there is always a clear tenor. And that's why I think it's time to ask Wargaming (again). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ENUF] SnuSnu_RIP [ENUF] Players 858 posts 36,527 battles Report post #25 Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, OldSchoolFrankie said: Yes, you pointed out the trend early on, but now so many are noticing it. There are so many who are fed up with these rounds and say so clearly. No matter where you read, there is always a clear tenor. And that's why I think it's time to ask Wargaming (again). I don't think that WG has an answer to that. Because then they would have to admit their wrong decisions. What I noticed is that they ignore a lot of critical questions, especially in their stream. I wonder how they can be so ignorant in front of thousands of viewers. But they really don't care anymore it seems. So my conclusion is, that it's to late to correct the development of the game and especially the horrible playerbase - and WG knows that very well. So they keep going with the business as usual, and milking the cash cow as long as possible. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites